Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows

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Icyflamez96 said:
For people who hate her now, what could even be done at this point to save her?
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I don't hate her. When it comes to bad writing, hating the character who is the result of poor narrative is like hating the knife that stabbed you instead of the person who did the stabbing. The lay of the blame is on the author.

I don't think she's 'bad' per se, she's just kind of boring. The fact is that the only reason Kuvira is walking straight right now is because Korra is completely out of it, so there just isn't a great deal of tension as a result of physical conflict.

She's not affiliated with Korra in any way. Her tension lies pretty much entirely with the Bei Fong family. Both Korra and Kuvira regard each other as physical threats, but they don't have anything personal with each other. If Opal or even Suyin were the main characters, this wouldn't be a problem, but this is the Avatar series and Korra is the Avatar.

So the last remaining tension they can build up is thematic. That what they did for Ozai vs Aang. Darwinistic Might Makes Right vs Pacifism Strengthened with Resolve. But Kuvira doesn't have much of a political belief except "Everything MUST be united!" It'd be fine if we went deeper than that, but we never do. And Korra certainly doesn't have anything going for her in terms of political philosophy. Her conflict this season lies entirely in finding herself. She is doing this by learning to empathize with her enemies. Toph told her to try and understand her past villains, she tried to reach out to Kuvira, and now she talked to Zaheer. I'm not sure where this is going though. Kuvira's philosophy can't be empathized into stopping. There is some massive disconnect here.



My guess is they are going to build her up in terms of physical tension by giving her that giant mech or whatever. I don't think there is a way to 'fix' kuvira except elaborating on her story, and then having the Bei Fongs play a big role in their downfall. Honestly, the perspective switch would be ideal because Kuvira really is THEIR enemy more than Korra's. But this is Korra's final season, so they won't steal away her show in the final few episodes.

So my advise to them is go back in time to when they wrote season 3 and remove Kai and instead have Kuvira join the Krew. Once that is done, have her turn into an enemy and boom, instant tension for Korra.
 
Plywood said:
Speaking of Kai, he had like one appearance this entire season so far, right?
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Yeah, I really don't get that. Kai was actually relatively successful as a character. Giving his screentime and arc would have been better of course, but he himself wasn't necessarily wrong.

They managed to set him up, against all odds and now....don't do anything with him?
 
I guess Jinora needs someone to kiss and hug in the finale or something. Those extra 3 minutes getting put to work!
 
Hmm does that mean Amzon doesn't even have the episode yet. Might mean the same for the Itunes also. Oh well should be up on Nick in around 3-4 hours hopefully. Time to try and finish LBP 3 in the mean time.

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Plywood said:
Speaking of Kai, he had like one appearance this entire season so far, right?
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Yep only one episode so far this season.
Showed up in the first episode and has since fallen of the face of the planet since then.
 
"We show the episodes before the release date, and you people whine about leaks. We show the episodes after the release date, you people whine about that. There is no pleasing you crazy avatar fans."
 
Ho boy, fun times ahead.

Caught off guard a little by that forward base with the dudes on it getting straight up blasted. Usually they do the thing they did further in the episode by showing people escaping the sinking war ships to show that they survived.

I wonder if they're gonna actually explain what made BJR turn heel or if it's not gonna even be important anymore.
 
Figures.
Not even love is gonna stop Kuvira from the path to victory.
Really didn't expect a giant mech this close to the finale. Nice, but a little out of place. But explains what happened to Zaofu's dome things.

Verrick. What's wrong with you?!


Next week is the end. Can't wait.

xaszatm said:
So...Neon Genesis Kuvira?
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More like "Metal Gear Kuvira", but I get what you mean.

Deadly said:
Can't they just metalbend that shit? I still can't believe the season degraded to this...
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I get the feeling that's an awful lot of metal to bend.
 
jediyoshi said:
I wonder if they're gonna actually explain what made BJR turn heel or if it's not gonna even be important anymore.
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Doesn't seem like there's much to explain.
Nerdy inventor is seduced by a powerful dictator to create an army of mechs and superweapons. It's a tale as old as time.
 
NTom64 said:
Apart from the Meelo garbage that was a really tense and exciting episode.

Looking forward to the finale next week.
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Right?

I feel like if I was Korra's VA I would have put my foot down on that.

"There's no way the Avatar talks about farts. I'm not saying it."

Deadly said:
Can't they just metalbend that shit? I still can't believe the season degraded to this...
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The Colossus is made from the domes of ZaoFu, which were platinum - the unbendable metal.
 
I'll admit I haven't been following the thread closely because I haven't been crazy about the show in awhile, but is this Kuvera thing not making any sense to anyone else?

Like, this season just seemed like it was going to deal with aftermath stuff, characters wrapping things up, the fallout from what happened before, but then they needed a villain and a threat so they came up with this imperial Earth Empire thing.

Then they bring in this minor character girl who turns into Emperor Palpatine? It just seems strange. Also, as a final book threat? Kinda anti-climactic.
 
....all of you who sees Kuvira's actions as literally Hitler probably should read more on world history.

What she's currently trying to achieve and how she's doing it is not only exclusive to the Nazi regime, not to mention with different motivations too.
 
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edit: Episode is out on Nick I forgot, removing spoiler tags, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE EPISODE.

Hmmmm. That might easily be the strongest episode of the season in terms of excitement, beating out last episode. Looks like the writers found a way to counter my "just get Bolin out there and give him back up so he can lavabend around the machinery". Some thoughts on the episode:

- Zhu Li looks pretty great with her hair down. She basically confesses her love to Varric, and just when you think Varric ruined it she gives him the ultimatum of "i'm either your partner or i'm out". He never gives an on-screen response, but when she's walking out he looks remorseful, and later on during the preparations we see them working together again so it's easy to assume that they're now partners. Though no confirmation if he admitted to her that he also has feelings for her.

- Fucking LOL at the mecha giant. I guess the writers couldn't think of another way to make a metal bender a threat, and I guess all they really had to do was make a giant version of the personal mecha suits.

- Kuvira has now left any Stalin she had in her and is now full Hitler.

- The fact Mako and the gang thought that Bolin would forget to mention the giant fucking mech and his reaction of "oh yeah did I forget to mention that? OF COURSE I DIDN'T KNOW" was pretty great. I swear they should have just kept him as the reaction sarcastic guy, worked better for him with Varric and works better for his character.

- A part of me finds it hilarious that they brought back all of these characters that haven't had any screen time throughout the season. Kai appears once again, so does Bumi and General Iroh as well. Kai doesn't have a single speaking line throughout, which is pretty funny because he was in plenty of scenes he could have said at least ONE phrase but I guess it'd be silly to make the VA come back so he could say 2 lines. Bumi I don't recall having a speaking role either, but when they were sneaking into the airship to capture Jr all stealth air-nation like they all looked pretty badass. And then there's General Iroh. They brought him back with his army, only to have the president surrender and him not being able to fight. But hey at least he said those words to Korra to sneak out. I feel like they'll be using him though. Couldn't have wasted his character and VA coming back for nothing.

- Speaking of the president, respect was gained for making tough calls in hard times. Usually he's too eager to surrender but he didn't surrender until he had considered all the options.

- Lol at Prince Wu. I guess my opinion of him changing when somebody thanked him was off. Guess that when he's not acting like a jackass he's a pretty great public speaker at least, relates to the common man due to his wimpiness. And maybe that's what will win him over the people at the end. Also I laughed at what was basically the fireside chats.

- Bataar Jr seriously thinking that Kuvira was going to sacrifice everything to have him back was crazy. She's not going to jeopardize her entire operation for him. I want to make it clear though, I do think that she had feelings for him and maybe still does, but she's also a leader and can't show weakness in something like this. Maybe at the end when they capture her and she gets to speak with him again she'll let off a clue that she did have feelings for him and that it wasn't an easy choice. Korra is most definitely taking her bending away though. Also the fact Su doesn't even know what she did to piss off Jr means that either she's clueless or she genuinely doesn't know. Maybe it was something as simple as never getting enough recognition for his achievements and being overshadowed by his siblings. Well at least now he has a reason to work for them and tell them the weakness of the mech. Because they're obviously not dead/

So yeah. As it can be seen from all the points I had a lot to say about this episode. So much happened in 20 minutes. This is the Korra S4 I've been waiting for. At the very least since they weren't fighting the krew wasn't made to look weak when around Korra so at least that aspect of the gang being together again didn't bother me. I gotta say that as long as the finale is decent the show will at least end decently.

Will it be enough to save what had been a largely boring and floundering season that didn't know how to keep pace? Probably not. It won't redeem the horrible pacing and exposition that took way too long, too many episodes focused on Korra's weakness and getting over it. And I still argue that for a FINAL season the threat of random one season Hitler isn't enough for it. In AtlA the Hitler there was always the evil presence in the background, and the Fire Nation was always a threat world wide. In here she wasn't a threat to the rest of the world until this episode.

Still though I'll give credit where credit is due: as long as the finale doesn't fuck it up we will at least have 4-5 decently strong episodes this season, even if the majority didn't mesh together well into a cohesive final outing for a show. But hey that's decent enough.
 
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