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I've been working on a group project in school this semester for the last couple of weeks. Got partnered with a girl & we chatted some prior to the project being assigned. Obviously we have talked more frequent while doing the project, but she has been asking me to wait for her after class ends - though I don't have another class & she does, we talk for a few minutes then, she laughs at my jokes, etc.. Today she asked me to check her ass for donut crumbs because she sat on one while on a rush to make class this morning. She has also been a little physical - she places her head on my shoulder or holds onto my arm when the teacher says something dumb or, like today, when the elevator door wouldn't close she held my arm and rested her head on my shoulder while giggling.

Some friends tell me these are signs, but I kind of think she may just be a friendly person. Friday is my last class of the semester and may give her my number and then see if she contacts me.
 
I've been working on a group project in school this semester for the last couple of weeks. Got partnered with a girl who & we chatted some prior to the project being assigned. Obviously we have talked more frequent while doing the project, but she has been asking me to wait for her after class ends - though I don't have another class & she does, we talk for a few minutes then, she laughs at my jokes, etc.. Today she asked me to check her ass for donut crumbs because she sat on one while on a rush to make class this morning. She has also been a little physical - she places her head on my shoulder or holds onto my arm when the teacher says something dumb or, like today, when the elevator door wouldn't close she put her held my arm and rested her head on my shoulder while giggling.

Some friends tell me these are signs, but I kind of think she may just be a friendly person. Friday is my last class of the semester and may give her my number and then see if she contacts me.

Those are signs.
Ask for her number or give her yours.
 
I've been working on a group project in school this semester for the last couple of weeks. Got partnered with a girl & we chatted some prior to the project being assigned. Obviously we have talked more frequent while doing the project, but she has been asking me to wait for her after class ends - though I don't have another class & she does, we talk for a few minutes then, she laughs at my jokes, etc.. Today she asked me to check her ass for donut crumbs because she sat on one while on a rush to make class this morning. She has also been a little physical - she places her head on my shoulder or holds onto my arm when the teacher says something dumb or, like today, when the elevator door wouldn't close she held my arm and rested her head on my shoulder while giggling.

Some friends tell me these are signs, but I kind of think she may just be a friendly person. Friday is my last class of the semester and may give her my number and then see if she contacts me.

Holding your arm with her head on your shoulder?

Yeah, you're probably good to go there. That's pretty direct, even for "friendly" people. Also I'd ask for her number rather than just giving her yours, or just both exchange numbers.
 
Some friends tell me these are signs, but I kind of think she may just be a friendly person. Friday is my last class of the semester and may give her my number and then see if she contacts me.
Way too much uncertainty for Nathan Drake, dude. Just get her number. Even if she is just being too friendly, she'll just say no. Big deal.
 
I have a question to ask about an extremely sensitive subject. It's not something I want to discuss in public for various reasons. Anyone able to help?
 
I've been working on a group project in school this semester for the last couple of weeks. Got partnered with a girl & we chatted some prior to the project being assigned. Obviously we have talked more frequent while doing the project, but she has been asking me to wait for her after class ends - though I don't have another class & she does, we talk for a few minutes then, she laughs at my jokes, etc.. Today she asked me to check her ass for donut crumbs because she sat on one while on a rush to make class this morning. She has also been a little physical - she places her head on my shoulder or holds onto my arm when the teacher says something dumb or, like today, when the elevator door wouldn't close she held my arm and rested her head on my shoulder while giggling.

Some friends tell me these are signs, but I kind of think she may just be a friendly person. Friday is my last class of the semester and may give her my number and then see if she contacts me.

Wrong.

What you do is ask her if she would like to hang out outside of the school situation and get her number. Then just take her out on a date you plan.

You will not find success giving a girl your digits and waiting for a response. Man up and ask her to hang out. Outside of class the signs will begin to pile and then you can make your move. Don't be scared and do it.

/advice
 
I've been working on a group project in school this semester for the last couple of weeks. Got partnered with a girl & we chatted some prior to the project being assigned. Obviously we have talked more frequent while doing the project, but she has been asking me to wait for her after class ends - though I don't have another class & she does, we talk for a few minutes then, she laughs at my jokes, etc.. Today she asked me to check her ass for donut crumbs because she sat on one while on a rush to make class this morning. She has also been a little physical - she places her head on my shoulder or holds onto my arm when the teacher says something dumb or, like today, when the elevator door wouldn't close she held my arm and rested her head on my shoulder while giggling.

Some friends tell me these are signs, but I kind of think she may just be a friendly person. Friday is my last class of the semester and may give her my number and then see if she contacts me.

She asked you to look at her ass, and you worry she is just being friendly? Go for it.
 
Anyone ever date someone who never texts/initiates things first?

Things seem to be going well with this girl I'm dating. Been about a month. I get worried because she hardly ever texts firsts or initiates a date. But when I do text first, she answers, and when I do ask her out on dates, she says yes. I've been Brad Pitt ruling it too, where she'll say, "I can't that night, but how about this night?" So I have to assume she is interested and making the time.

Something I need to worry about yet?

My girlfriend told me she doesn't initiate at the beginning or the guys think he already has won her. She is Asian (as in grew up and living in Asia) so it may be a cultural thing. She also took other things kind of slow.

I recognize I have a wonderful problem, but I have a problem.

I'm seeing a great girl that I met online. An old classmate gave me her number and said she wanted to grab dinner with me. And I hooked up with an older woman Sunday morning.

They're all great in their own way. I certainly identify more with the online girl, but I've always had a thing for the classmate. The older woman is more of a fling, but she seems like she wants more out of it.

I'm going out on a date with the online girl tomorrow and I'm pretty excited. We hit it off pretty well on our first date and have chatted pretty well since then.

Do I contact all of them? I'm not the player type, but when these types of situations come up I usually pick the right person for what I want at the time, but usually regret not meeting with all of them later.

As long as you are not serious with anyone, go for all in my opinion. You can decide better after knowing them all better.
 
Wrong.

What you do is ask her if she would like to hang out outside of the school situation and get her number. Then just take her out on a date you plan.

You will not find success giving a girl your digits and waiting for a response. Man up and ask her to hang out. Outside of class the signs will begin to pile and then you can make your move. Don't be scared and do it.

/advice

No fear in doing so. I just don't read subtle hints well & wanted to see if other people would take such actions are hints or not.
 
Went out for milkshakes with a girl yesterday, easily the most attractive I've ever been with. She initiated almost everything. Conversation was natural and flowed well and she ended up giving me a lift home.

She parked outside my house for a while, we continued talking, eventually the topic of a second date came up and she said "I don't usually do second dates" which I took as an immediate red flag because she mentioned that she doesn't do no strings deals. However, shortly after she started kissing me, which ended up getting vigorous. We stopped, kept talking, she mentioned that something I said, "If only I could forget some of my bad memories!" in a joking fashion made her think I had issues in my past. I burst out laughing and explained, she laughed. Conversation turned sexual. We explained our fetishes, turned out we were a 1:1 match on all of them. Kissed more, lots of moaning and "damn, now I'm horny" from her.

I texted her before bed with a teasing "Hope I didn't get you too horny to drive (or do I?)." She replied this morning with "Luckily the tiredness washed over it again ;) and I think we know the answer to that!." I replied, but she hasn't yet. The date had ended on "maybe we'll see each other again." I'm not going to see her again, am I?
 
Anyone ever date someone who never texts/initiates things first?

Things seem to be going well with this girl I'm dating. Been about a month. I get worried because she hardly ever texts firsts or initiates a date. But when I do text first, she answers, and when I do ask her out on dates, she says yes. I've been Brad Pitt ruling it too, where she'll say, "I can't that night, but how about this night?" So I have to assume she is interested and making the time.

Something I need to worry about yet?

I was seeing a girl exactly like that back in October. We had a total of like, 7 dates? That I initiated. She never initiated any of them. Like your case, she would respond to my texts but rarely reached out to me of her own accord. After our 7th date, which was a Wednesday, I told her I'd like to see her once more that coming weekend before she goes on her trip. She agreed, and we parted. I then tested her by not contacting her at all. I wanted to see if she would reach out to me. Anything at all.

I never heard from her. Thus, I never spoke with her nor saw her again. Our dates were good, we had plenty in common. I just assume she didn't feel the spark, or something. We're still friends on FB, oddly enough. I'm thinking about attempting to rekindle things with her since her bday is coming up, but I haven't decided if I really want to or not.

So to answer your question, no it's not a good sign from my experience, and the whole "as long as she's agreeing to see you so keep doing all the work" thing is bullshit. If she likes you, she'd want to talk to you. She would want to know how you're doing, see what you're up to, flirt with you, etc.
 
I've been really reluctant to put myself back out there and don't think I will be able to seriously until I have steady, full-time work. I didn't really date growing up so even though I've been feeling a lot better lately, I worry I come across as too serious until I get comfortable with a person, which can be a huge put-off to fun loving types. Dating sites seem an odd mixed bag that I am also unsure of. '_'
 
Went out for milkshakes with a girl yesterday, easily the most attractive I've ever been with. She initiated almost everything. Conversation was natural and flowed well and she ended up giving me a lift home.

She parked outside my house for a while, we continued talking, eventually the topic of a second date came up and she said "I don't usually do second dates" which I took as an immediate red flag because she mentioned that she doesn't do no strings deals. However, shortly after she started kissing me, which ended up getting vigorous. We stopped, kept talking, she mentioned that something I said, "If only I could forget some of my bad memories!" in a joking fashion made her think I had issues in my past. I burst out laughing and explained, she laughed. Conversation turned sexual. We explained our fetishes, turned out we were a 1:1 match on all of them. Kissed more, lots of moaning and "damn, now I'm horny" from her.

I texted her before bed with a teasing "Hope I didn't get you too horny to drive (or do I?)." She replied this morning with "Luckily the tiredness washed over it again ;) and I think we know the answer to that!." I replied, but she hasn't yet. The date had ended on "maybe we'll see each other again." I'm not going to see her again, am I?

Um, what.

She doesn't do second dates but she also doesn't do no strings attached sexual relationships? Wtf does she do then? Just use guys for a free ride on a first date?
 
Hello gaffers! I don’t post often although I am a long time creeper of these forums. Anyway, got an interesting story to share.
Here goes:

JUNE 2014
In June my sister and her hairdresser were trying to hook me up with two of the hairdresser’s friends – let’s call them friend A and friend B. My sister does not know A nor B. Anyway, my sister sent me a pic with A and B and asked me if I was interested in dating either. Both were kinda cute, B was a bit cuter. But neither were smokin’ hot. My policy is to never turn down a date if I am free since even if I’m not super into the girl, there is a chance she might have hot friends who she can introduce me to. So…I told my sis I am open to meeting either. A day later my sis said A is open to meeting and gave me A’s #. I asked about B – she said B changed her mind and isnt ready to meet anyone. Meh. OK. Whatever.

I went out with A, we got coffee, took her for a walk around a nearby lake at a park. We had a nice time – spent 3 hrs together then parted ways. It wasn’t love at first sight but I didn’t mind seeing her again.

A day or so after we txted a bit, exchanging comments about how it was a fun date etc. then I said: “BTW, lemme know when you’re free next for sushi, I’m way overdue.”
Never got a response. Then two days later we txted again and I asked her if she wanna do sushi+movie on sun. she agreed. Then sat she msged me saying she cannot go on Sunday anymore. I said “ok cool”.
Never did get a reason why she bailed, nor did she suggest a later time. So I never txted her anymore, nor did I hear back from her.

DEC 2014
I get a msg from some chick – “hi, how’s it going?”
I didn’t know who it was at first then I realized it’s A. OK WTF? Now you txt me?
after some chitchat, she said she wanna ask me something…she said “I was wondering, are you still single?” I said, “I am, I still meet ppl etc, casual dates, whatnot, but not in a relationship”. I’m thinking WTF, now you want a second date?
She says: “I have a single friend who is a really nice girl, would you be interested in meeting her”.
WTF LOL. I thought for a sec and then I said – sure I’m open, tell me a bit about your friend. She goes – why don’t I just give you her # and you can call/txt her and you guys go from there. I said OK. Then I asked what the name of her friend was. The name rang a bell. And straight away I thought – OMG friend B! then I was looking for that pic with the two of them but couldn’t find it. She also told me that her friend doesn’t really know she is doing this. But was like please msg her. I said – no worries.
Later that mon night I msged the friend and explained how I got her # and asked if she wanted to meet up later in the week. The friend said sure, but wanted to do a phone date first. Bef I hung up I asked her for a pic and she said OK but also wanted me to send a pic. I said OK. She is hot. I’m thinking – yep this is that friend B.

The next evening we did a phone date – a very creative one I orchestrated (I’m already typing enough as it is but if you guys want to hear more about it let me know and I can elaborate, I was told by my friends that it is very cool and unique). The friend and I talked for 3 hours. And we decided to meet up on sat.

leading up to sat we were on the phone for 3-4 hrs every night. Now, I am a huge gamer, but my sister warned me to not talk game or anime with her..LOL, WTF? I know that, I haven’t mentioned anything about gaming and I’m not gonna start the real date convo with OMG DID YOU SEE UNCHARTED 4 TRAILER LAST NIGHT! Nor would I bring it up during. I’ve no intention to turn her off by spewing nerd talk. And have her thinking I live in the cellar playing wow.
Anyway. She and I met up at 2nd cup coffee shop around 8.30 pm. I got her a small thing of flowers and I wrote a personal note (if you wanna read it lemme know, I got nice compliments on it lol) which I gave her by her car so she can leave it inside the car. Prior to the date, I loaded some songs on the ipod to share and bought a ton of pics from my japan trip in case it got awkward I can kill time with those.
We talked and laughed, told stories about eachother. I didn’t get to share the songs nor the pics. We somehow managed to convo really well. Then sometime during the date the word comic book came up prob cause of marvel movies etc – then she said:

hey! (looking straight at me)
do you like legend of Zelda games??
I was dumbstruck. Trying to process this…because ZELDA IS MY FAV SERIES AND OCARINA IS MY GAME OF ALL TIME!
Turns out she loves Zelda, and super Metroid. She said she beat both SNES ones, said she hated the recent Wii Metroid. And she said played OOT but is stuck at the water temple. Of course I told her that we can play together and I help her with OOT. She agreed, and was very happy about it.

then it seemed like only 30 mins passed since we got there then the store manager told us we had to leave. It was actually 11pm and we were the last ones there. They were closing. Neither of us realized.

I walked her to her car, we said goodnight, she said lets chat on phone when we get home.

and guys, it turns out that this girl was not friend B, it was the hairdresser...LOL. I still have a hard time believing she tried setting me up with her friend then her friend set me up with her. and so far she is a great match.

phew - that's a lot of typing. if you guys wanna hear post date comments, see her pic, and also about the second date (also a bit unique), and now the planned third date this tues, lemme know.
 
phew - that's a lot of typing. if you guys wanna hear post date comments, see her pic, and also about the second date (also a bit unique), and now the planned third date this tues, lemme know.

That is awesome! Of course we want to hear more post date comments and about second date But please, do NOT post her picture here or else it might backfire you. At least I wouldn't be happy if a guy I'm dating was posting pictures of me without me knowing.
 
Ok ya not posting pics. But she is very pretty, some of the girls at my work asked if she is a model and one said she resembles Courtney kardash in some pics.
Will post more about her comments on our dates later today after work.
 
Yeah, for sure 100% don't post pictures in this thread. That's would be a big no no.
 
I was seeing a girl exactly like that back in October. We had a total of like, 7 dates? That I initiated. She never initiated any of them. Like your case, she would respond to my texts but rarely reached out to me of her own accord. After our 7th date, which was a Wednesday, I told her I'd like to see her once more that coming weekend before she goes on her trip. She agreed, and we parted. I then tested her by not contacting her at all. I wanted to see if she would reach out to me. Anything at all.

I never heard from her. Thus, I never spoke with her nor saw her again. Our dates were good, we had plenty in common. I just assume she didn't feel the spark, or something. We're still friends on FB, oddly enough. I'm thinking about attempting to rekindle things with her since her bday is coming up, but I haven't decided if I really want to or not.

So to answer your question, no it's not a good sign from my experience, and the whole "as long as she's agreeing to see you so keep doing all the work" thing is bullshit. If she likes you, she'd want to talk to you. She would want to know how you're doing, see what you're up to, flirt with you, etc.

Girl I'm dating atm is pretty much like this. Responds extremely quickly whenever I start a conversation and is fun to talk to, etc, but pretty much never does it of her own accord.

Shit's frustrating yo.
 
Why haven't you blocked her by now?

Maybe I can't fully let go? Not sure, I've tried a bunch of times and we've been broken up for like 3 years, thought she'd just stop texting, I was really hoping she wouldn't text me on my birthday coming up but that's looking doubtful
 
Maybe I can't fully let go? Not sure, I've tried a bunch of times and we've been broken up for like 3 years, thought she'd just stop texting, I was really hoping she wouldn't text me on my birthday coming up but that's looking doubtful

Sounds like you're struggling with something. Do you want to let her go, or no? Are you secretly hoping she will text you on your bday? And try to get back with you? Do you want to get back with her? If so, why aren't you trying? If not, then you need to truly let her go and move on. For your sake.

Staying in limbo isn't going to help you.
 
Sounds like you're struggling with something. Do you want to let her go, or no? Are you secretly hoping she will text you on your bday? And try to get back with you? Do you want to get back with her? If so, why aren't you trying? If not, then you need to truly let her go and move on. For your sake.

Staying in limbo isn't going to help you.

Fair points, she broke up with me so I'm sure that's part of it, would I get back together with her? Yes, I would. Am I going to pursue her? No
She'd have to initiate that

Not really sure what I should do about moving on and letting her go beyond what I'm doing, I can't see myself ever not being willing to get back with her, but I can't just wait around for her
 
Fair points, she broke up with me so I'm sure that's part of it, would I get back together with her? Yes, I would. Am I going to pursue her? No
She'd have to initiate that

Not really sure what I should do about moving on and letting her go beyond what I'm doing, I can't see myself ever not being willing to get back with her, but I can't just wait around for her

Don't answer and try to meet new people and date other girls.

Easier said than done, I know. But you gotta try.
 
For the sake of giving the best advice possible and out of respect for you, I have to be blunt and say that you're contradicting yourself heavily. Your first post said...
gazele said:
Ex texted me out of the blue for the first time since March

Urgh...

At that point it sounded like you were disappointed and/or not exactly thrilled with the idea. Then, it got to this...
Fair points, she broke up with me so I'm sure that's part of it, would I get back together with her? Yes, I would. Am I going to pursue her? No
She'd have to initiate that

Not really sure what I should do about moving on and letting her go beyond what I'm doing, I can't see myself ever not being willing to get back with her, but I can't just wait around for her
You're basically talking yourself into a corner here. Your reaction to her message was "ugh", but at the same time you acknowledge that you would indeed get back together with her. But only if she initiates, right? Wellllllll, that's a self-fulfilling prophecy because her recent text to you IS her initiating. Lastly, you said you can't just wait around for her. Well, by saying you would get back together with her I'm willing to bet you will wait around for her.

Basically, you need to take control of yourself and your own needs. If you want her in your life again, go do it. Don't wait around or wait for her to initiate, because you'd only be doing so in order to preserve your own ego (i.e. forcing her to make the move since she dumped you). Your posts tell me that you want to get back with her, I just hope its not for the wrong reasons.

Is there a particular reason she broke up with you? It would shed some light on the matter and would potentially change my advice completely. Of course, if its too personal then I fully understand! Don't be pressured to share. Again, I know my advice sounds a bit "blunt" but I believe in only giving advice from the heart.
 
Haha, fair

We broke up mostly because of long distance issues, we still don't live in the same state so that wouldnt be any different

What would be the wrong reasons?
 
Quick update: Last class of the semester was today with that girl. Immediately upon me getting to the class and sitting down she handed me a piece of paper with her number and email address. Told me that I better get in touch with her this weekend so we can plan something to do next week (she suggested checking out an art gallery the university has that we stumbled upon earlier this semester while trying to find an office in the library). Since we finished our group project ahead of time, we spent the entire class talking about music, art, books, and David Bowie.
 
I need to start dating again. I've been missing a lot of easy layups because I'm so blah about getting back out there even though I called it off.

I don't know to be young and careless. I need lessons on being a human.
 
Hey guys, first time posting here.

Anyway I'm in a pretty confusing situation that's literally driving me insane because I can't seem to decide on what to do.
To make it short I started going to University a couple of months ago and I met a really nice girl that, since then, pretty much became my best friend (same goes for her I guess, since she openly says that every now and then when we talk privately) and of course, me being an idiot I just realized that I'm really starting to fall for her. She's already going out with someone else and she usually talks about him though it's mostly complains how he wish he would be better, he'd take more initiative even when it comes to do sex and so on. At first it didn't really bother me since I was basically just trying to help her out since she seemed to have a somewhat troubled life, especially in the last months but now everytime she brings it up it kinda annoys me and I start to hope that things get worse between them so that I could try to make myself more "clear". I'm totally not a player, I'm usually very shy and introverted, so that definetely doesn't help but the way she acts it's really confusing me.
She's pretty much the opposite of me, she's very open with almost everyone, have no problems getting a bit "physical" with other people like hugging them or giving them a kiss on the cheek even though they're just friends or people she met not that long ago and of course that makes me kinda uncomfortable.
This morning we texted a bit and she said that her date yesterday went pretty good, despite complaining about this sort of boyfriend that she has since the beginning of the week. Next Monday will probably be the last time we'll see each other since lessons will resume only around the last week of February and I don't know what to do.
Should I just try to invite her out sometime and see how it goes? Should I hold off and wait to see if I can cool my head a bit before rushing things and doing anything stupid? As it is now I think that I have like 0 chances with her and giving it a try wouldn't really change anything but I'm terrified at the idea of ruining everything and losing her.

There's also another really nice girl that we hang out with that recently started to open up a bit with me but that's for another time lol plus I'm not really interested in her despite being really good looking and fun to be with (not as much as girl 1 though :p ).
 
Hey guys, first time posting here.
If I were you, I'd go for girl 2 at the moment honestly and distance myself a bit from girl 1 if she is seeing someone else already.

Also, if you make a move, don't go with a whole 'i feel like this and that', just ask her out for a drink outside of school sometime (no diner, just a nice place to drink and talk) be a bit more flirty and see how she responds.

If she goes for it, great. If not, you need to see if you want to be friends (but really friends, non of that friendzone crap and keep hoping she will suddenly change her mind) or just distance yourself if you can't do that.
 
hey! (looking straight at me)
do you like legend of Zelda games??
I was dumbstruck. Trying to process this…because ZELDA IS MY FAV SERIES AND OCARINA IS MY GAME OF ALL TIME!
Turns out she loves Zelda, and super Metroid. She said she beat both SNES ones, said she hated the recent Wii Metroid. And she said played OOT but is stuck at the water temple. Of course I told her that we can play together and I help her with OOT. She agreed, and was very happy about it.

You know what? Chicks love nintendo. If you don't overdo it it's like having a puppy. I went out the same day I got Smash 3ds and at the club I told some girl I was going home to smash tonight. She was like "huh?", but then I told her I just got the new smash bros and she brightened up, having played smash 64 growing up etc. Mario Kart works even better, the best is Mario Kart 64, have it ready on VC or something.

Hey guys, first time posting here.

Don't think about girl 1. It's nothing to be confused about, she feels safe with you as a friend and she trusts you. The fact that she's dating doesn't necessarily mean she's not into you, but the fact that she tells you about it does. When you have feelings like that everything is intense, monday is just monday, don't take it is a final ultimatum or whatever, take the break to clear your head.
 
If I were you, I'd go for girl 2 at the moment honestly and distance myself a bit from girl 1 if she is seeing someone else already.

Also, if you make a move, don't go with a whole 'i feel like this and that', just ask her out for a drink outside of school sometime (no diner, just a nice place to drink and talk) be a bit more flirty and see how she responds.

If she goes for it, great. If not, you need to see if you want to be friends (but really friends, non of that friendzone crap and keep hoping she will suddenly change her mind) or just distance yourself if you can't do that.

Yeah I get what you mean. Part of me kinda wishes that she would settle things with her guy so that I can sort of put it behind me and start to focus on something/someone else. The fact that one day she seems like she's terribly in love with him and the day after she seems to hate him stops me from trying to do anything or make a move, since I get the feeling that I would just be taking advantage of her unhappines in that particular moment.

Girl 2 is a bit harder to approach. We talk every now and then but not much.
The other we went to have lunch at a friend's home (me, girl 1, girl 2, another male friend and the girl that invited us). We had a great time, laughed a lot while eating and so on. During the afternoon I was just sitting on the sofa relaxing a bit, Girl 2 sat beside me, leaned towards put her head on my chest/shoulder and so on. I didn't pay much attention to it and just put my arm around her and we stayed like that for a while, not really doing anything. Later on Girl 1 came down and G2 started to distance herself, sat at the table, started texting with someone else etc.
I don't really know if I should start to look at that as some signs or if she's just trying to act a bit girlish since G1 has no problems sitting on my laps, hugging me, jumping over me and shit like that.

Don't think about girl 1. It's nothing to be confused about, she feels safe with you as a friend and she trusts you. The fact that she's dating doesn't necessarily mean she's not into you, but the fact that she tells you about it does. When you have feelings like that everything is intense, monday is just monday, don't take it is a final ultimatum or whatever, take the break to clear your head.

Yeah you're probably right. It's the same thing that I though, but sometimes it seems like she just brings it up to catch my attention or make me jealous and see how I react. Most likely it's just me over reacting and reading too much into that though.
 
If you have girl 2s number, just ask her out sometime. Signs can mean a hundred different things and you'll think yourself to death trying to figure out out. Go for a drink, see if there is any mutual attraction and go from there.

Always easier said then done of course, but really, you have nothing to lose and at worst a fun night to gain.
 
When you're saying Girl 2 is less approachable I completely disagree.
You need a bit of tension and distance, just ask her for a coffee and see where it goes. That way you also take action and make decisions instead of passively waiting to see if she's into you or not.

EDIT: haha, we're thinking alike ClosingADoor :P
 
Yeah, I'll try to cool my head for some time and then see how it goes I guess.
Anything will be better than over-stressing myself over it anyway.
 
yea, think I'm bailing out of this

Went out with this girl I mentioned earlier (lady friend's twin sister). Had something to eat, went to a play at her old high school (her idea, it was pretty hilarious), afterwards went to a concert. On our way there we were flirting and I tried to move things along. as soon as I go in for the kiss she turns cold, so I'm like aight nvm. It was weird for a bit but ok. We go to the concert, and she goes back to her flirting self and starts talking reckless like when we met a friend of hers he asked her whether I was her boyfriend. She smiles at me and says "well, not yet" like it's cool. She was initiating the entire time but as soon as I try to go further she gets cold feet or something. Probably because we happened to run into her sisters and some friends, I dunno, still annoying. At around 3:30 AM I start sobering up because I have to work early the next day (great idea, right?). The topic of me going home comes up (I live in a different town and had to take the train) and she says "you can stay at my place but don't expect anything to happen" which I found a pretty obnoxious thing to say in front of everyone and she was loaded as fuck anyway, so I declined. At 4AM the peeps at the venue basically threw us out and that's when shit went down. I was planning on waiting for my train at 5:30AM at the station but her sister (my friend) was having none of that and they started bickering for some reason. I had a pretty bad conscience until it turned into a full blown argument over some family shit that I had to listen to for almost 1.5h in front of the train station while I'm freezing my ass off. Got a cold and couldn't go to work anyway smh.

The next day I was invited to some friends' place for pancakes and she happened to be there as well, acting passive aggressive about pretty much everything I did or said. Like for example, we were sitting next to each other and her feet were close to mine but she was on her phone and I tried moving them a bit with my own feet. She asks me whether I want to play footsie, I'm like "you in?" and she almost goes off, again in front of everyone, "no man, that's gross, don't touch me!". I look at her like
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and turn the other way. A few secs later she started touching me but I ignored it. Asked her what the matter was later but she acted like she didn't know what I meant. Haven't really talked to her since. Wrote her once to ask whether she wanted to grab a coffee after classes (so I could talk to her in private) but she was busy studying for exams. Next time I see her is probably on the 18th at a mutual friend's birthday dinner. Not looking forward to it at all as this has been more trouble than it's worth already.

dat booty tho

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Starting to think I should volunteer more so I can meet new people. Once I start working regularly and get my own place I'm debating getting involved with local animal foster and rescue agencies like I used to. I don't seem meet a lot of new people when I'm ready to get to know and put the effort into new friendships and possibly a relationship. Hmm.
 
Haha, fair

We broke up mostly because of long distance issues, we still don't live in the same state so that wouldnt be any different

What would be the wrong reasons?
If the issue is the same then you need to ask her what she's willing to do differently this time, since she's the one who initiated the break-up last time. Wrong reasons? Could be anything from: feeling lonely, feeling desperate, feeling like you're not good enough to meet another girl, feeling grateful the girl is taking you back since she dumped you, and so forth.
 
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