This is what annoyed me the most. If they've got a romantic relationship, whatever, that's fine. But there wasn't enough character building around this supposed pairing to end the series on that. That's how you chose to end it? The anti-climactic defeat of Kuvira, who by the way, KILLED Asami's dad for all to see. Then showing extreme mercy on her by saving her life. And like lovers do, let's abandon everyone else in the wake of the city being destroyed to go backpacking in the Spirit World indefinitely.
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This is what annoyed me the most. If they've got a romantic relationship, whatever, that's fine. But there wasn't enough character building around this supposed pairing to end the series on that. That's how you chose to end it? The anti-climactic defeat of Kuvira, who by the way, KILLED Asami's dad for all to see. Then showing extreme mercy on her by saving her life. And like lovers do, let's abandon everyone else in the wake of the city being destroyed to go backpacking in the Spirit World indefinitely.
Despite everyone's general hatred of book 2, to me I thought it did an excellent job of having complicated grey morals in the form of Varrick and him trying to engineer a war
NHarmonic.
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It was fucking amazing. Mako's scene's with the vine-core gave me the chills, Kuvira using liquid metal-bending was genius and i felt everyone had a moment to shine, one last time, until it was over.
And Korrasami, wow...
i'm so glad for all this years, for the whole universe created, for this characters
And i'll surely miss them.
Thanks a lot Bryke, you guys are incredible.
And Korrasami, wow...
i'm so glad for all this years, for the whole universe created, for this characters
And i'll surely miss them.Thanks a lot Bryke, you guys are incredible.
Mr Fahrenheit
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It was a joke, chill
I'm taking all comers today. Well the ones I don't have on ignore yet.
What's your complaint?LoK season 1 final episodes worked much better as a series ending than as a season ending imo. They packed so much in to wrap up the storylines but then had to backtrack a bit when they were told season 2 as greenlit.
In the world of shipping EVERYTHING is suggestive
Astral Dog
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I dont think there will be more Korra games, or that they are a good medium to continue the story,Comics,it could be, although the writters said in an interview they ended the storyline on book 4, for the whole series, thy dont have anything planned.
The reason I'm torn on this, is that I think the Network would have given them pushback. SADLY...we live in a time where, gay romance is not allowed in kids shows. And so, let's say Bryke 100% wanted Korra and Asami together. Like around Book 2, they decided that's what they wanted (and weren't doing it to pander).
Well, maybe the ONLY way they could have their romance plot play out, was to have their close friendship play out in place of it. That they had to dance around it, because it's the only way they could get the story told.
If that was the case, I can feel a bit more sympathy for the writing. I can feel a bit more okay with it. I guess the question is, even with the censorship and pushback COULD they have shown more, to at least imply...that it was romantic. Because looking back I still don't see anything between them that implies more then really close friends.
I think it's problematic that, two people of the same gender can't be extremely close, and confide in each other, without it being assumed it's sexual. I think what also makes this feel forced, is that they established both Asami and Korra were at least...bi-sexual. That prior, they were straight. And to be fair, you can be straight...or date people. And then realize later on your sexual preference.
But...in a story, it feels a bit jarring if you don't have that plot kind of establishing that. So the whole thing was a mess I think. Regardless.
I dunno. Maybe they did the best they could? I guess only time will tell looking back on this. I'm assuming Bryke at some point, will eventually comment on it.
What a mess of a season, I just hope if they continue the Avatar series they start fresh and with new writers. It felt like they had no idea where they wanted to go with the season. Also letting Kuvira live and act like nothing happened just killed the good moments this season had.
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I'm hardly the only one who thinks or has said something to this effect (see below for others who were just on this page, let alone thread history), but I think this is just a case where we'll have to agree to disagree.
Miles Quaritch
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Quite enjoyed the close quarters fight between Korra and Kuvira, but didn't much care for how it ended with Kuvira saying Korra had more power than she could ever hope to achieve. What? She's the bloody avatar, of course she has more power than you can ever hope to achieve. Are you high?
Was anyone else legit shook when Korra busted out her talk no justsu in the spirit world? I couldn't believe it.
So the ending, I took it to mean Korra and Asami are a couple (something I like as they felt like a perfect couple) or was it meant to be left open to interpretation?
Was anyone else legit shook when Korra busted out her talk no justsu in the spirit world? I couldn't believe it.
So the ending, I took it to mean Korra and Asami are a couple (something I like as they felt like a perfect couple) or was it meant to be left open to interpretation?
You know I get that they wanted to probably parallel the ending to TLA and I understand that but in TLA I felt like I got closure and when Katara and Aang finally kissed, it felt like payoff for something we knew would happen for 3 entire seasons.
In this we got the same kind of ending but with massively less payoff and more or less choosing to close a plot line that at most had a minute or less of screen time to develop, rather than actually show payoff for all
the other characters in the show.
(probably my last post in the thread. xD)
Well for one, Katara and Aang actually had a long established plot. So them kissing felt less like shipping, and just a proper resolution to a plot. And the creators also had given us good resolution to all the side character prior. And before Katara and Aang kiss, we got to spend one last time with these people. They let us say goodbye and gave us closure.
The difference is, ATLA was a story about relationships and a journey. Korra was really just about a singular person. That difference really showed in the endings.
Plans change, so maybe things will get moving in the future.
And I think games could be a good way to continue the Korra story. It'd take some work, and some planning, but I think it could be great. So long as it's not low-budget licensed trash, there could be a great videogame continuation story for The Legend of Korra.
Korra's final line: "Sounds perfect."
Asami's: "I've always wanted to see what the Spirit World is like."
Tenzin's: "That doesn't seem like a good idea."
Mako's: "I've got your back, and I always will."
Varrick's: "You just make me so dang happy."
Bolin's: "You may now do the thing."
Asami's: "I've always wanted to see what the Spirit World is like."
Tenzin's: "That doesn't seem like a good idea."
Mako's: "I've got your back, and I always will."
Varrick's: "You just make me so dang happy."
Bolin's: "You may now do the thing."
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Whether the original mention which launched the side-discussion in this tread was a joke or not (I honestly don't remember what the first comment was), I think it's an important issue to talk, especially considering that people absolutely had that reaction when that episode aired. I'm not trying to ridicule or insult people who were joking or being facetious about it, but I am using that as a jumping off point. Perhaps I should add, "I know you're joking, but looking at this from a serious perspective..."?
lol highlights Mako's L tbh.
legend of korra was shit and this finale was shit, so disappointing
It felt like they wasted way too much time in season 4 and then rushed the last 2-3 episodes, it almost felt like as if this was a live action cable show that got its budget cut by 70%. Kuvira and the whole Earth Empire arc felt criminally underdeveloped and could have been a 2-3 season saga on the scale of TLA (actually most seasons felt this way, season 1 and 3 could have been the same), involving the fire nation and other nations. Instead we get a one season arc where over half of the episodes still somehow manage to feel like filler, coupled with a rushed and somewhat disappointing ending.
Not to mention all the cringe-worthy and jarring dialogue in the final 2 episodes because they flat out ran out of time. Too bad, I wanted to like LoK--season 1 was ok, season 3 I got my hopes up, the beginning of season 4 I got excited... nope, all garbage in the end.
It felt like they wasted way too much time in season 4 and then rushed the last 2-3 episodes, it almost felt like as if this was a live action cable show that got its budget cut by 70%. Kuvira and the whole Earth Empire arc felt criminally underdeveloped and could have been a 2-3 season saga on the scale of TLA (actually most seasons felt this way, season 1 and 3 could have been the same), involving the fire nation and other nations. Instead we get a one season arc where over half of the episodes still somehow manage to feel like filler, coupled with a rushed and somewhat disappointing ending.
Not to mention all the cringe-worthy and jarring dialogue in the final 2 episodes because they flat out ran out of time. Too bad, I wanted to like LoK--season 1 was ok, season 3 I got my hopes up, the beginning of season 4 I got excited... nope, all garbage in the end.
BKatastrophe
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Wait, when was this? When his connection was severed Cosmic Aang just tipped over and fell like he had too much to drink. Then Katara got upset and revived him. That's all that happened.
At most, all you can say as a counter is Aang meeting Roku on the Solstice. Even then, it was Roku's dragon that took him to the Fire Temple, and then Aang was just shown visions. I don't even think Aang actually talked to Roku until he meditated at the temple. Unless you have another spiritual event, there is nothing to suggest that it is not equally probable to say that the lives are within Aang. Whenever they manifest in the physical world, they manifest through Aang. Or appear from within Aang.
SilentMatthew
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Oh the guy who leaked the stealth Korrasami took down his active tumblr because of reasons:
I have never regretted something as much as I regret that stupid post I made in the heat of the moment last night. I realize people will trash talk the show, the creators or myself as much as they like - thats just the nature of things. But now people are using my stupid comment as fuel for their trash talk and the fact that I deleted the post later as some sort of proof of some heinous thing. I delete my asks all the time though. And yes this one especially because I regretted it almost immediately and no one likes to leave their fuck ups for all to see. Bottom line is this, Ive once more learned the hard way that I really need a much more low profile online and thus Im gonna probably close this tumblr and hope I havent ruined my career by blurting out personal shit online. ~From a reddit post
Can't seem to verify this via google search, but if this was posted on his AMA account then it's probably gone.
His art one is still up:
I have never regretted something as much as I regret that stupid post I made in the heat of the moment last night. I realize people will trash talk the show, the creators or myself as much as they like - thats just the nature of things. But now people are using my stupid comment as fuel for their trash talk and the fact that I deleted the post later as some sort of proof of some heinous thing. I delete my asks all the time though. And yes this one especially because I regretted it almost immediately and no one likes to leave their fuck ups for all to see. Bottom line is this, Ive once more learned the hard way that I really need a much more low profile online and thus Im gonna probably close this tumblr and hope I havent ruined my career by blurting out personal shit online. ~From a reddit post
Can't seem to verify this via google search, but if this was posted on his AMA account then it's probably gone.
His art one is still up:
None. TLoK was the last one for me.
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With the old spirit portals being at the poles, it makes sense that no one would travel there out of curiosity or for fun. But with one now being in the center of Republic City, it could presumably be a huge destination vacation with central access to thousands of people. But I kind of feel like it's super dangerous to just let common folk walk around in there. The implications are pretty significant.
If you think the only mature themes are "raceism, genocide sexsim." or that ATLA one-off 'special episodes' are substantial interrogations of a topic then sure we might as well stop arguing here
Miles Quaritch
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It's probably old hat and I expect most have already seen it, but I've just discovered Kill la Kill on Netflix, seems like it might be fun.
Oh the guy who leaked the stealth Korrasami took down his active tumblr because of reasons:
I have never regretted something as much as I regret that stupid post I made in the heat of the moment last night. I realize people will trash talk the show, the creators or myself as much as they like - thats just the nature of things. But now people are using my stupid comment as fuel for their trash talk and the fact that I deleted the post later as some sort of proof of some heinous thing. I delete my asks all the time though. And yes this one especially because I regretted it almost immediately and no one likes to leave their fuck ups for all to see. Bottom line is this, Ive once more learned the hard way that I really need a much more low profile online and thus Im gonna probably close this tumblr and hope I havent ruined my career by blurting out personal shit online. ~From a reddit post
Can't seem to verify this via google search, but if this was posted on his AMA account then it's probably gone.
His art one is still up:
Uh...this is the guy that said Bryke added the ending at the last minute?
Probably going to rewatch Dragon Ball and start Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay night.
I'm currently working on Mitchiko & Hatchin, which I'm enjoying immensely.
That was just something she said to make sure the soldiers gave up.
Alternatively: The power of forgiveness.
That Dude John
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probs JoJo's if I can make the time
Fueled by love.
Meh. She still was a power hungry psychopath. That basically was given humanity in a 1 min time span. How can you reconcile the slave labor camps, the eugenics...with her just being a hurt person trying to protect herself.
So while yeah okay THAT line might have just been for the soldiers. Her entire story arc at the end was really bad, and her character was all over the place on who she was.
SilentMatthew
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Actually I'm not entirely sure... that pic is from will-Ruzicka, a storyboard artist for LOK, and this:
wruzicka-reblogs
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None. What else is there that isn't anime?
I've still got Arrow and Flash.
Maybe I'll rewatch Rugrats up until the movie.
Every single season could have been their own series considering the themes they were bringing up. Mike and Bryan should have just stuck to the major ones (the Avatar's place in a new world, power, looking within oneself and being happy in getting what you want) and built outward from there.
Don't do that to yourself.
lol. The themes they used as background settings, that really meant nothing?
You said the fighting in the prequels were better, when they weren't because: The fight choreography was awful and there was no emotional weight behind them. Neither of which hold true for the fights in the original trilogy, at least not the fights that actually matter.
You're the one that said that the fact that Legend of Korra attempt at tackling those issues made it better than ATLA regardless of quality is rather silly. Even more so considering ATLA tackled more even if they were one-offs.
But I doubt you will listen to anything and just disagree without much thought.
the finale just highlights what has been plaguing the entire series from the beginning, some really piss poor writing. It's like the creators wanted to touch upon serious themes but had no idea how to tackle them. And the implied thing in the end was just lolworthy. But the series as a whole has a done poor job of developing romantic relationships from the first season. I won't be surprised to find out if that scene was just tacked onto the end to please shippers.
Again, for people who look for 'ships in series there is very little such fans look for other than hints of romance, the implication of lesbianism is not due to gender normative portrayals of women, but because on the cover one girl vaguely looks like korra, and the other asami.
These people have been on the prowl for clues since season 3.
TangerineCloud
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Log Horizon, Cowboy Bebop, Adventure Time S4.
Though I could really use another western action-adventure anime-style cartoon, tbh. Too bad nobody seems to be making those. :/
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I'm not sure why you're coming off so aggressive here, I said in that very post maybe we should agree to disagree. I never said those were the only mature themes that are possible, those words were from someone else I quoted to show you my opinion regarding this matter was not an isolated one. That person also wasn't saying those were the only mature themes either though. I also never said mature themes were the ideal, I said treating children, the target audience, in a mature and relatable manner was.
I will say that I think you are misreading the episode if you think it was just about her mother's killer or happening completely in isolation. The episode was completely dependent on the context of Zuko and Katara's relationship history through the course of the series and her struggles to decide whether to forgive and trust him. I greatly enjoyed the end of that episode in which Aang does not find himself vindicated regarding his ideals; Katara decides that mercy and forgiveness are two different things.
Miles Quaritch
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Oh, well that's ominous.
I take it's not great? The few minutes I watched seemed pretty interesting, if a little on the nose about what it's trying to achieve.
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