Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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I think this is because lovers affection is more difficult to hide between men than between women. Women and girls can hold hands and cuddle while staying ambigious abour how deep that goes. But two men holding hands or cuddling? That would instantly ring homophob alarm bells.
Astral Dog
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Hiroshi Sato went too far, not only he collaborated with terrorists and put his daughter in danger, he also tried to kill her and her friends. im surprised Asami forgave him, she is good.
Or if both of them were the villains throughout, both fighting each other as well as Team Avatar. I don't think the Red Lotus would be crazy about a totalitarian state where bending was illegal.
You know, Ill stay with the idea that Korra and Asami are just best friends.
While I love the shipping, I think this interpretation makes more sense with the character interactions we saw the past books.
But I'm certainly not raining on your parade, keep the sexy fanart coming!
However, I might change my mind if we ever get " THE LAST: Korra the comic"
While I love the shipping, I think this interpretation makes more sense with the character interactions we saw the past books.
But I'm certainly not raining on your parade, keep the sexy fanart coming!
However, I might change my mind if we ever get " THE LAST: Korra the comic"
Astral Dog
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And then both are the pawns of Unalaq and Vaatu :O
That would've been an interesting dynamic. Especially if both sides would argue with Korra and she would've take some time figure out where she stands, what the merits and flaws of both sides goals and actions are.
really brought that emaciated and broken man back just for some cheap drama.
Regarding that last point: it never crossed my mind once.
I'll agree with the Amon analysis, since his motivation is buried in a story from when Aang was alive which was told, but not really really explained. We only know that the dad was a bad dude or a gangster and then he wanted republic city back and his two sons tried doing that differently.
I just wonder if the creators had Korrasami in mind from the get-go, if they did... Going to have to call them out
cause the first two seasons were brought down by the love triangle. They should have just gone for Korrasami from the start. Bad writing + lack of planning. :/
Granted it's possible Nick was the reason things turned out like this.
cause the first two seasons were brought down by the love triangle. They should have just gone for Korrasami from the start. Bad writing + lack of planning. :/
Granted it's possible Nick was the reason things turned out like this.
Of course not.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT KORRASAMI
WUUUUUUUT
WUUUUUUUT
KanameYuuki
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I'm still salty about the lost connection with the past avatars : | but hey at least I got Varrick and Zhu Li and Korrasami, just when I thought it wouldn't get better after NaruxHina became canon too.
The avatar villain idea sounds cool, it would have been great if Vaatu fused with Raava at the end of season 2 so there could be dark avatars sometimes and they have to fight for their inner balance.
The avatar villain idea sounds cool, it would have been great if Vaatu fused with Raava at the end of season 2 so there could be dark avatars sometimes and they have to fight for their inner balance.
Fashionably late.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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What page can I find the live reactions to Korrasami
I don't even know how I feel about the finale...i'm too megaton'd out.
I don't even know how I feel about the finale...i'm too megaton'd out.
I can do it, or you can do it. I'm happy to help you out with it if you'd rather do it, or you can help me if I do it. I probably won't have much time to do one until January 9th, as I have a big essay to write over the Christmas break, but I have a ton of time between then and when my classes start on the 26th.
I still feel bad about causing all that trouble with the Book 3 OT -- and now I think back on it my self-ban request was for a really fucking stupid reason too -- so if I can make it up by doing the Community OT I'd gladly do it.
But you staked your claim on the Community OT first, so I'm happy to go with whatever your preference is. So long as KorraGAF is cool with the arrangement.
FYI: I did the Book 2 OT and was set to do the Book 3 OT (I wanted Book 4, too, but I was still banned lol). Wiseblade did Book 1, but he gave me his blessings to do the future ones.
I don't think they had it in mind from the very beginning. After all, Makorra was the OTP until the end of Book 2, when they collapsed it because it was an awful pairing and they had terrible chemistry. I think they may have been toying with the idea in Book 3, and were umming and ahhing on it right up until the end of Book 4's production. There's a lot of subtext in those two seasons to support this argument.
I don't think so. In the Book 2 commentaries Bryke said they originally planned to have Asami join the army and pair her up with Iroh jr at the end of Book 1.
JadedWriter
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Oh fuck don't remind me of Buffy season 4 holy shit that was trash. Adam, that fucking Riley relationship, oh god it was horrible. Angel was the superior show in my opinion but not everyone thinks that way. Buffy was at it's best when they were in high school. I think Angel handled adulthood better. Both great shows though.
I cannot WAIT to hear book 4's commentary just to see their thought process behind each episode.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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1.if you really don't believe Korrasami happened, you are in denial.
2. I lost my bet of Korra getting connection with past lives back
3. whoever posted that bingo card, it was spot on! So many close calls (i.e. emp, meelo farting, kai speaking)
Yeah props to that Bingo card. It was in the back of my mind iwth all those close calls
JadedWriter
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If anybody has actually seen the anime Noir it ended on a very similar note but that show definitely had inklings of lesbianism sprinkled in there so you weren't taken by surprise.
Interesting... Well guess it's in part both bad planning and Nick screwing them over... (Since obviously book 1 probably would have ended very differently had the writers knew that season 2 - 4 were possible.)
Should be fun. Hopefully they dish out on all the alternate endings they came up with before the picking the one we got.
I just want to hear their thought process on the character relationships and why they settled on what they did. Bryke confuses me.
I don't know... I still feel like Korra and Asami are just friends...?
I didn't think it was a great ending for the Legend of Korra series. I mean, it was also pretty much an end to the whole Avatar series as well. I thought they could have done a lot more...
I really loved all of the scenes with Varrick and Zhu Li though. In the end, they were probably my favorite characters in all of Korra along with Tenzin, Prince Wu, and Bolin.
I'm going to really miss Avatar and Korra. The original show is still one of my favorite shows of all time.
Am I missing something? I've never heard the creators say it was a thing and that they don't do what the fans want them to do.
I didn't think it was a great ending for the Legend of Korra series. I mean, it was also pretty much an end to the whole Avatar series as well. I thought they could have done a lot more...
I really loved all of the scenes with Varrick and Zhu Li though. In the end, they were probably my favorite characters in all of Korra along with Tenzin, Prince Wu, and Bolin.
I'm going to really miss Avatar and Korra. The original show is still one of my favorite shows of all time.
Am I missing something? I've never heard the creators say it was a thing and that they don't do what the fans want them to do.
"Hey look, there's Kya on the boat. Say goodbye to Kya forever."
"You see, everything after the first episode is Kai's mime phase. I'm sure it'll blow over eventually."
WrenchNinja
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I chuckled at him getting smooshed
SoulUnison
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Just for the record, I thought the Book 1 finale was fantastic.
My only changes would be showing the audience how the Equalists managed to capture Tenzin and his family when we basically saw them escape(Korra even lampshades this: "But they got away... We SAW them get away!" and having Korra's eyes do sort of a static-y "I'm just barely accessing the Avatar State through sheer force" thing while resisting Amon's bloodbending.
I personally feel like they had it in mind since Book 3, but it was definitely self-aware.
I think they realized how awkward Korra and Asami's romance subplots were and realized that hooking up Korra and Asami would give the awkwardness a good explanation as well as being a nod to the fan community.
My only changes would be showing the audience how the Equalists managed to capture Tenzin and his family when we basically saw them escape(Korra even lampshades this: "But they got away... We SAW them get away!" and having Korra's eyes do sort of a static-y "I'm just barely accessing the Avatar State through sheer force" thing while resisting Amon's bloodbending.
I personally feel like they had it in mind since Book 3, but it was definitely self-aware.
I think they realized how awkward Korra and Asami's romance subplots were and realized that hooking up Korra and Asami would give the awkwardness a good explanation as well as being a nod to the fan community.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Cracking up at the Live Reactions
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=898907&page=349
Wut a lovely ride this has been.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=898907&page=349
Wut a lovely ride this has been.
QuickSilverD
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So Kuvira just surrenders? she still has like, her entire fucking army and loyal followers, I was actually expecting her to leave, but I thought she would at least keep her empire.
So what happens now with all that infrastructure, with all her followers? do they just stop what their doing and go farming or something?
So what happens now with all that infrastructure, with all her followers? do they just stop what their doing and go farming or something?
Pretty much all of Book 1 was fantastic.
Messofanego
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Oh this is great, thanks.
Yeah the discussion about Kuvira is going to be very interesting and the direction they took with her.
JadedWriter
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Swept under the rug like the equalists, red lotus and the southern water tribe civil war supporters.
Nah, she's a good sport. Everyone including her will just take their punishment as is or pull a Nuremberg Trial.
Except the finale.
Which is terrible, because I really like Book 1 but that ending just soured it so bad.
Yup, you can imagine that being a prominent point of interest.
SoulUnison
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What's your problem with Endgame?
Really my only big problem with it is that Korra overcome's bloodbending by sheer force of will. THey could have fixed that by having her enter the Avatar State even if only for a split second, unconsciously. I mean, she's still the Avatar, right? I thought the Avatar State was supposed to kick in automatically when the Avatar's in mortal danger, whether she's an adequately "spiritual" person or not.
I don't know how I feel about the finale. I mean, to me, most of the season was just aimless.
Varrick and Zhu Li's scenes, as well as Mako and Bolin (for the most part), were enjoyable to me. There are a lot loose ends and inconsistencies, though. Also, I feel like the new spirit portal was supposed to have some sort of an impact but it just fell flat. I would've liked for Korra to reestablish her connection to the past avatars.
What was the point of building up Kai?
Where the hell were Bumi and Kya?
Wasn't Kuvira basically adopted by Su, pretty much being raised as a sister to Bataar Jr., Opal, the twins and... the other one? Why wasn't that acknowledged/discussed more in the show?
I don't get the significance of the orphan story. Yes, her parents abandoned her. However, she was really young when she was taken in by a well-to-do family that cared about her. She had what I assume to be a privileged life with them, right?
What happened with the Red Lotus? Or the equalist supporters, for that matter?
Does the Fire Nation even exist?
Also, I saw this posted on Reddit and laughed...
Varrick and Zhu Li's scenes, as well as Mako and Bolin (for the most part), were enjoyable to me. There are a lot loose ends and inconsistencies, though. Also, I feel like the new spirit portal was supposed to have some sort of an impact but it just fell flat. I would've liked for Korra to reestablish her connection to the past avatars.
What was the point of building up Kai?
Where the hell were Bumi and Kya?
Wasn't Kuvira basically adopted by Su, pretty much being raised as a sister to Bataar Jr., Opal, the twins and... the other one? Why wasn't that acknowledged/discussed more in the show?
I don't get the significance of the orphan story. Yes, her parents abandoned her. However, she was really young when she was taken in by a well-to-do family that cared about her. She had what I assume to be a privileged life with them, right?
What happened with the Red Lotus? Or the equalist supporters, for that matter?
Does the Fire Nation even exist?
Also, I saw this posted on Reddit and laughed...
The giant robot was the true villain of the season. Once they blew it up Kuvira came to her senses.
JadedWriter
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It's being ran like justice lord superman.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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If you were to tell me the penultimate finale of the 'Legend of Korra' is Korra and Asami deciding to take a spontaneous vacation into the Spirit World together...
I probably would have called you a liar.
I probably would have called you a liar.
Penultimate finale is an oxymoron.
It was lame all around. She wanted to convince people of the truth by yelling at them, then the whole airbending thing, then she JUST gets her bending back, including Lin, which makes her sacrifice mean nothing especially since Tenzin and kids get captured.
And can you believe that Bryke wanted to tell the story of them escaping? Come on now.
Anyways, those are just a few of my issues.
Mostly. In very specific circumstances it isn't, but the stars and the context have to align correctly
WrenchNinja
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"You get a lobotomy, and you get a lobotomy, you all get lobotomies! "
I like to poke fun at Veelk. BUT...yeah sorry man. That wasn't cool. Wasn't really paying attention to what I was saying.
You guys are jerks :'(
Anyway, the finale was mehtastic. I'd do a massive write up, but just skimming the last few pages, I think most points I'd make were already covered.
The weird romance at the end with Asami and Korra was pretty much totally unearned. Do you remember how most people thought that Mako and Korra was Bryke's 'apology' to Zutara fans? Well, while it wasn't an apology, I think it could be safely said that they saw the staggering popularity of Zutara and said "Hey, we should tap into dat shit. Fans will love it instantly." Well, that's basically what they did here. They heard complaints in the second season over Asami not getting enough screentime and interaction with Korra, so they gave it to us in season 3. When we got that, the Korassami train really got going so that now they're giving us as close to Korrasami as they can possibly do so on Nick, and feels just as artificial here as it did with Makorra. Because none of it is earned. They started working towards it in season 3, then it was a huge dry spell until hey, now korra and asami are lovers.
I feel I came really close to losing my bet about their not being a deus ex machina, but Korra managed to save me last minute with that random out of nowhere literal spirit energy bending. I mean, it makes more sense, relative to the other shit pulled so far, but come on, what even is spirit energy anymore. Funny enough, Kuvira got a small diabolus ex machina herself, with the ridiculous contrivance that her huge fuck you cannon landed at the exact tree vines that could unbelievably hold the thing up and be pointed at DIRECTLY where Korra enters the forest.
They did an amicable job with the mech, but it's just so hard to believe it was really as unstoppable as everyone made it to be. Really, it's impossible to clog any of their joints or trip it up? Or something? And it's only weapon is incredibly nimble for something that must weigh atleast a 1000 pounds.
Still, I can't deny the decent team work, good character moments, and excellent choreography. The things presented here aren't perfect. (Verrick and Zhu Li shouldn't have jumped straight into marriage, the aforementioned Korrasami moment was unearned, weakly showing Wu to be a 'good' king by having him renounce the monarchy, Kuvira was a bit too repentant by the end, etc) but this is clearly their A team effort, which is better than what we've been getting all season long.
Kuvira managed to get her backstory afterall...or atleast a tiny elaboration on the backstory we already knew. I don't understand why we couldn't have more of those seasons throughout the season. She'd be a really interesting villain if we found out she connected to Korra that much.
A serviceable end what is ultimately a mediocre show that threw ridiculous amounts of potential into the wind.
Yeah, that was a bummer.
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