Cloud Strife
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DAMN IT,
HUUUUUUUUUUUGHES
Well, now to see what some of my conservative colleagues have to say about the finale. This should be fun.
Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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DAMN IT,
Well, now to see what some of my conservative colleagues have to say about the finale. This should be fun.
Oh yeah no doubt. I completely respect the show and its community. I respect how it uses its characters efficiently. Alphonse is a down ass bro 98 percent of the time (2 percent is when he let the butcher get into his head, but that's easy to forgive). Edward actually grew as a person over time.
It's a good production.
WhiskerFrisker
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Horrendous*
Not sure if I like him, but I really felt sorry for him at times.
That scene still gets me
That Dude John
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Icyflamez96
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UGH I need to know how to make gifs out of these videos
Brotherhood is a vast improvement over FMA
firehawk12
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Not to derail this thread too much, but I'll just say that the end part of the series, including the final OVA that was packaged with the first season set, was on par with Korra S2 for me. It took a relatively simple back story and added way too much to it way too quickly.
So good.
Zantetsuken
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I directly compare the two if only because the action is so similar, and Brotherhood just tells a more interesting and complete story.
I mean, this moment still gives me chills:
Nothing in Korra really reached those heights for me, even if I'm fond of season 3.
This part, and when
Tucker turned his daughter into a chimera.
WhiskerFrisker
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Well I guess I'll watch it after I'm done with finals next week. I have a month break to resume my anime watching schedule!
JadedWriter
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I like both shows for different reasons. I just hate the off manga parts with Scar at the end I think. It's been awhile since I've seen the first show, but I just started it again. Brotherhood had a much better portrayal of the homunculai I think.
You know this scene didn't really do much for me. I guess from all the hype about I was expecting more.
Nina's transformation completely gutted me though.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
You know, thinking about how Brotherhood all comes together with "every cast member fights the big bad" it's amazing how well it worked... and they turned it into like a 10 episode final arc. So amazing.
I'm not what going to turn this into a huge argument, as I happen to have a conflict of interest in this debate, but here are my reasons.
You say that DEM is a contriance for writers who wrote themselves into a corner to get out of. You admit it is a contrivance, but not a DEM because it's not plot relevant.
Well, for one, I'm not sure how this moment is not story relevant. Korra and Kuvira surviving is pretty important and we wouldn't have had the ending we did if it ended another way. It's a very short lived conflict, sure, as it was introduced then basically immediately dealt with, but I don't think that makes a difference. If, upon entering the spirit world, Korra got attacked by some random spirit, only to have Naga, who has been no where near this conflict so far, show up out of the blue and attack it away, that would also be a major contrivance to a very short lived conflict and rightfully called a DEM. So I don't think conflicts have to be related to the overarching plot to be counted as DEM's if they're solved through contrivance.
Second, yes, we have seen energy bending before, but never like this. Before, it was done to alter the bending abilities of people, which I felt more changed the nature of their spirits or something than actually moved their spirits somehow. But you know what, fine, it's called energy bending, so I suppose we can assume that means she can bend spirit energy. Okay, but how does she bend that energy? That thing was a fucking giant cannon that leveled entire buildings, entire towns. You're telling me that Korra has the muscle to wrastle down a weapon of mass destruction? That is contrivance if I ever heard it.
Third, if we take Zaheer at his word, then a DEM is impossible in all circumstances. He said Korra's power was limitless. That basically means she can do anything. If Korra had jumped up and punched Kuvira's mech with her bare hands without using any bending and defeated it that way, then we wouldn't be able to say that's a DEM because "Well, he did say her power was limitless."
But as I said, since this is my bet, I have a vested interest, and cannot objectively argue my case. So I'll leave it up to the thread to decide. If more than half of the people who had bets for the finale think I lost, then I lost. I think that's fair, right?
Bah. That is too late- begin watching it now!
Also watch the dub.
Seriously, it's superior to the sub imo. Also it makes more sense in context of the setting.
JadedWriter
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That spoiler scene turned me into a fan because I initially though FMA was a kids show...it fucking isn't...I love Shou Tucker in the original series.
So just finished watching the finale, and um... Wow.
When Asami first shows up and Tenzin leaves I was like "Well this will get shippers talking."
Then they began to have their conversation and I was "Well... They're certainly feeding that fire."
Then it proceeded to them at the spirit portal and they were holding hands and I was "That's going pretty far. Of course friends can do that, fine."
But then that final scene where they gaze at each other... That one 'caused my jaw to drop and go "Holy shit."
... Maybe I, like many others, are looking too much into this, or maybe not... Either way, umm... I enjoyed this season! And last season... and the first season... and let's not talk about season 2.
Well aside from season 2 introducing Varrick. That I will always be grateful for.
When Asami first shows up and Tenzin leaves I was like "Well this will get shippers talking."
Then they began to have their conversation and I was "Well... They're certainly feeding that fire."
Then it proceeded to them at the spirit portal and they were holding hands and I was "That's going pretty far. Of course friends can do that, fine."
But then that final scene where they gaze at each other... That one 'caused my jaw to drop and go "Holy shit."
... Maybe I, like many others, are looking too much into this, or maybe not... Either way, umm... I enjoyed this season! And last season... and the first season... and let's not talk about season 2.
Well aside from season 2 introducing Varrick. That I will always be grateful for.
victreeb3l
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Yep. Amazing characters got to do awesome things. FMA is my favorite series of all time. Gonna do a rewatch next year as most of the show is still fresh in my mind.
Shouta
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This thread goes nuts anyway. But really? I thought it kept it all on topic and added just enough personally, lol. YMMV, obviously, but it didn't really more complexity, just more grey, lol.
yea me too. kind of like the "left behind" dlc from the last of us
I didn't like Mako.
Then I saw the error of my ways.
They put too much awesome into one scene and didn't have enough left for the Kuvira plot.
Oh come on...Gargantia?
Korra is like Hamlet or King Lear when compared to that show.
Well, I am a bit prone to hyperbole, but honestly, people I think are way too lenient when judging anime.
WhiskerFrisker
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B-But...I always watch animes using the subs. Only a handful of animes had dubs that were better then the subs.
Code Geass come to mind, and Death Note.
FMA spoilers:when Al sacrificed himself for Ed at the end, oh god
Personally...
I like the original series and the movie. I like Brotherhood far more, but I can't deny that I like the original series and it's movie.
Though...
FMA:B spoilers:
I felt that Edward trading his ability to use alchemy in turn for his brothers life was really touching and and a cool solution.
Trust me it's good... Also all of the in-universe text is in English... XD So it would be weird to see them reading a letter in English but they speak Japanese.
WhiskerFrisker
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I could of sworn I saw Varrick in season 1. Perhaps my memory is hazy. But yes, season 2 and the finale sucked.
JadedWriter
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There's also Cowboy Bebop and Black Lagoon.
most relationships start with no romantic history
He first appears in the season 2 premiere.
... but easy enough to forget, since the whole season is forgettable (...except that ending which I wish was forgettable)
FMA is based on manga by a very, very good storyteller.
You should check out her Silver Spoon - yes, it's manga/anime about life in an agricultural school and she makes it amazing.
Now if someone were to say that Bryke's writing is bad compared to Hiromu Arakawa - but most mangakas and anime scenarists are nowhere close to her level.
As Hayao Miyazaki says - the anime industry’s problem is that it’s full of anime fans, lol.
WhiskerFrisker
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Her avatar state sucks ass. Aang was a beast. Hell, Aangs whole squad was full of beasts who wreckedshit. Grand Master Toph is an example of this.
Ending was the best part of that whole season, I do agree that the rest of the season was forgettable, though, minus the final Nutuk episode. That was awesome to see Bolin get his moment like that.
Shouta
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I'm actually pretty harsh on anime.
Are you talking about the trappings or the content? If it's the trappings, I can kinda understand. But content? Can't say I agree.
JadedWriter
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I got my wife's face stolen, Imma go surfing.
Dat Balalaika voice over "I said kneel!!"The only correct choice
WhiskerFrisker
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Black Lagoon's dub was funny because of the voices. But yeah, those are pretty good. Especially Cowboy Bebop.
I forgot what her uncle name is. And what happened to those twins? No appearances whatsoever in season 4 besides the flashback epsisode. Even Korra's dad makes an appearance.
Lulz.
I did'nt have to sit through 4 seasons of Kuruk though and he did'nt lose his past lives. Korra can stay losing. Who do you guys consider the best?
he was still better than Korra who lost her whole connection to the past avatars.
yeah Aang and the gang would have taken down Kuvira in that mecha suit and Aang would have taken her bending away.
And still have a connection to all his past lives.
JadedWriter
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Her uncle was Unalaq. Her cousins showed up earlier during the Wu coronation ep. It was confirmed Desna sleeps in the tub. Tonraq needs to get over his sleeve phobia.
googleplex
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I real problem with The legend of Korra is that This type of story telling and world build doesn't fit the limited episodes they were given. TLOK would have really befitted if it had the number of episodes that TLAB had.
NHarmonic.
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Korra fought the fucking incarnation of evil in the world. That's pretty legendary, and makes her far from the worse avatar. (Kyoshi? an earth conqueror, like Kuvira. Aang? A nation and it's crazy leader = none of them compares to the threats this girl had to go against)
Icyflamez96
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Kuruk was a better Avatar than Korra.
Ok lol
Ok lol
WhiskerFrisker
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The best?
Aang of course. He did so much when he was a kid, losing all of his people and everything and yet helped stop a 100 year war and bring peace to the world.
2. Wan, he started the whole thing and he is pretty awesome. Just sad seeing him die in that battlefield. sigh
3. Roku, Avatar on a DRAGON, he was the shit. Plus the Avatar and the Firelord was an awesome episode.
4. Kiyoshi, she had a damn island named after her and she stopped Kuvira 1.0 but pushing him off a cliff.
That Dude John
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The awesome was indeed everywhere in that scene. Still wish Kuvira had that flashback episode.
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