Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows

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So, I guess I'll ask: If any of you could re-name Book 4 since I have no earthly clue what they meant by "Balance"(maybe I need to re-watch the season in it's entirety or someone could explain it to me), what would ya'll call it?
 
So, I guess I'll ask: If any of you could re-name Book 4 since I have no earthly clue what they meant by "Balance"(maybe I need to re-watch the season in it's entirety or someone could explain it to me), what would ya'll call it?

"Contractual Obligations"

It works regardless of whether you imagine the title being spoken from Nick's perspective or Bryke's!

Actually that might be too mean. I did enjoy the Varrick/Zhu Li moments in the finale.
 
So, I guess I'll ask: If any of you could re-name Book 4 since I have no earthly clue what they meant by "Balance"(maybe I need to re-watch the season in it's entirety or someone could explain it to me), what would ya'll call it?

"The one with Korrasami"
 
I can do it, or you can do it. I'm happy to help you out with it if you'd rather do it, or you can help me if I do it. I probably won't have much time to do one until January 9th, as I have a big essay to write over the Christmas break, but I have a ton of time between then and when my classes start on the 26th.

I still feel bad about causing all that trouble with the Book 3 OT -- and now I think back on it my self-ban request was for a really fucking stupid reason too -- so if I can make it up by doing the Community OT I'd gladly do it.

But you staked your claim on the Community OT first, so I'm happy to go with whatever your preference is. So long as KorraGAF is cool with the arrangement. :)

FYI: I did the Book 2 OT and was set to do the Book 3 OT (I wanted Book 4, too, but I was still banned lol). Wiseblade did Book 1, but he gave me his blessings to do the future ones.



I don't think they had it in mind from the very beginning. After all, Makorra was the OTP until the end of Book 2, when they collapsed it because it was an awful pairing and they had terrible chemistry. I think they may have been toying with the idea in Book 3, and were umming and ahhing on it right up until the end of Book 4's production. There's a lot of subtext in those two seasons to support this argument.

I would probably rather you do it. Just because, you have more experience at it. I'll help you run it. And I'll help organize like the re-watches and anything else we do. I'll PM you. At some point I'll draft up some things for the OT text, like in terms of the re-watch stuff.

Actually, we should probably just talk about it. So yeah, I'll just PM you.

Also it's fine. Even though I said I would do it, I was only saying that in case no one else wanted to. I was just determined to make it happen no matter what. But if we can get an experience Korra GAF person to make it happen, that is much better. Which is why I asked. :D

So yeah, we can work on this together. And I'll let you create it. I'll hit you up.
 
One thing I really enjoyed was how much trouble the basic enemy soldiers were giving the team. They werent a bunch of jobbers, they were skilled dudes that also kicked ass.

And Mako.

Yeah that clown too. But honestly the cast redeemed themselves to me the last 2 episodes. They were actually competent. I think Bolin will be the most powerful fucking earth bender in a few years.

I thought only season two truly had a god awful finale. That episode and whole season left a sour taste. I literally went to bed pissed at how shitty it was. My friend and I ranted on how craptastic it was. Season 1 felt rushed in my eyes.

2 was awful. Season 1's decline in quality started halfway into the season, not necessarily in the ending. Regardless, I really loved S3 and S4.
 
So, I guess I'll ask: If any of you could re-name Book 4 since I have no earthly clue what they meant by "Balance"(maybe I need to re-watch the season in it's entirety or someone could explain it to me), what would ya'll call it?

"Acceptance"

I guess. I mean, even that's not really a great title. But I guess, Korra accepting who she is. They didn't do a great job at it. But I do feel that even though they didn't show it, or have an actual pay off to the plot, visually we see Korra happy at the end, and she seems to have accepted her legacy and is no longer burdened by her flaws.

So that seems more appropriate then balance. Which made zero sense.
 
On the topic of best Avatar season, LoK S2 is by far the best season in the entire series. The brilliant villain(s), amazing love triangle and romance, absolutely majestic writing with a phenomenal twist involving the fabulous Jinora saving the day, just brilliant.

I cannot believe the hate this season gets, it's probably just Aang fans who can't get over the fact that their most favourite, and disgustingly self righteous, character pales in comparison of the great Korra, even Pabu is more nuanced than that baldly bastard, who by the way, is a terrible father.

I cannot wait to watch season 2 again, and re-experience the great animated moments like the giant spirit battle with the legendary chest beam blast, it's going to be life changing.

If Korrasami happens I'll stop calling Season 2 an abomination. In fact, season 2 will become my all time favourite season of the entire Avatar franchise. If the ship happens I will be completely indebted to the writers, and will continue to be indebted until I declare my love for season 2 above all else.

The debt is paid.
 
So I just watched the finale. Is the Korrsami thing an inside joke? I liked the season. I'm just sad that this is over. Will the avatar series continue after this? This world stilll has so much potential. I mean, how is the fire nation after Zuko's rule? How is it now? What's the next threat? Red lotus? So many questions I want answers to.

Don't worry, we'll find all that out and more next time when they focus on the fire nation......

;__;


Well, at least we got to see Zuko's daughter.
 
I feel I came really close to losing my bet about their not being a deus ex machina, but Korra managed to save me last minute with that random out of nowhere literal spirit energy bending. I mean, it makes more sense, relative to the other shit pulled so far, but come on, what even is spirit energy anymore. Funny enough, Kuvira got a small diabolus ex machina herself, with the ridiculous contrivance that her huge fuck you cannon landed at the exact tree vines that could unbelievably hold the thing up and be pointed at DIRECTLY where Korra enters the forest.

I really don't think you know what a Deus Ex Machina is. A DEM is a resolution, a contrivance a writer uses to force their way out of a corner they wrote themselves into in order to get a desirable ending. Korra being targeted by the spirit cannon and bending it wasn't a necessary moment or a plot resolution, it was Korra demonstrating her "power" and it was something that was foreshadowed by her talk with Zaheer. Also, it's just spiritual energy, I'm pretty sure Avatars have bended that before.

And again, what happened with Kuvira and the cannon was simply a massive contrivance as you said, and not an "ex machina" of any kind. I'm pretty sure you still lost your bet.
 
I would probably rather you do it. Just because, you have more experience at it. I'll help you run it. And I'll help organize like the re-watches and anything else we do. I'll PM you. At some point I'll draft up some things for the OT text, like in terms of the re-watch stuff.

Actually, we should probably just talk about it. So yeah, I'll just PM you.

Also it's fine. Even though I said I would do it, I was only saying that in case no one else wanted to. I was just determined to make it happen no matter what. But if we can get an experience Korra GAF person to make it happen, that is much better. Which is why I asked. :D

So yeah, we can work on this together. And I'll let you create it. I'll hit you up.
Just add Kuvira love please. :(
 
I just thought about this, but would the show really change if Mako and Bolin did'nt exist? Or if they were dead? They really didn't seem to add much to the show. Mako doesn't even have his terrible romances to fall back on.
 
Holy Shit this was bad, they really should have just ended it with the awesome season 3 finale. The difference between the Last Arbeiter finale and this one is just crazy... So bad.

Kuvira is still my favorite Waifu and Korra... Well she tried.
 
Holy Shit this was bad, they really should have just ended it with the awesome season 3 finale. The difference between the Last Arbeiter finale and this one is just crazy... So bad.

Kuvira is still my favorite Waifu and Korra... Well she tried.

Yeah. Honestly, it feels like the show ran out of plot with Book 4. In hindsight, I think the series would have worked better as 3 books. They should have had Zaheer connected to Amon, and had it carry over from Book 1. And then had Harmonic Convergence be the final story as Book 3.
 
I just thought about this, but would the show really change if Mako and Bolin did'nt exist? Or if they were dead? They really didn't seem to add much to the show. Mako doesn't even have his terrible romances to fall back on.
There would be more time for the first season to develop it's plot. Bolin was funnier that season though, but pretty much after the first season, not too much in my opinion. There would be less focus on Eska without the awkward Bolin romance, less Opal...she'd still be in the show though...might actually be a more focused show actually.
Kuvira had her time. Time for Asami to take the spotlight.
Kuvira got half a paragraph of back story and character motivation.
 
Season 4 was worth existing just for this finale.

YES

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Actually that might be too mean. I did enjoy the Varrick/Zhu Li moments in the finale.
That might be the GOAT proposal. Varrick brings the funny. Never understood why Varrick was funny consistently and Bolin had issues to the point where even characters within the show seem annoyed by his antics. It's like they were written by two different people. Genuine Bolin is the best Bolin. He knows his bro is awesome.
"The one with Korrasami"
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"Acceptance"

I guess. I mean, even that's not really a great title. But I guess, Korra accepting who she is. They didn't do a great job at it. But I do feel that even though they didn't show it, or have an actual pay off to the plot, visually we see Korra happy at the end, and she seems to have accepted her legacy and is no longer burdened by her flaws.

So that seems more appropriate then balance. Which made zero sense.
I can dig it. I was thinking about just calling it something cool -sounding like "Metal" or "Platinum" tbh

But if I had to pick something thematically consistent it'd probably be something like "Connections"(in theory anyway).
 
I just thank Kuvira for giving us so many awesome action scenes. Fuck shes amazing. I loved how she was basically a metal avatar as she used metal in different ways as if they were different elements.
 
That might be the GOAT proposal. Varrick brings the funny. Never understood why Varrick was funny consistently and Bolin had issues to the point where even characters within the show seem annoyed by his antics. It's like they were written by two different people. Genuine Bolin is the best Bolin. He knows his bro is awesome.

I still have no idea how they fucked up so badly with Bolin. I think he started to go downhill about halfway through Book 1. Before then he had been confident and something of a lady's man, but he was stripped of both of those traits to make room for Mako and the love triangle plot. Then in Book 2 we got Bolin sexually harassing/assaulting Ginger. And him teaming up with a villain in every single season (except maybe Book 3?) got pretty old. By the end of the series, I can't even brush off him saying that his head hurts after thinking of the most rudimentary of plans as just a joke. They really did write him to be that dumb.
 
Speaking of other shows. I just finished watching Suisei no Gargantia last week and it was really satisfying. Perfectly paced for 13 episodes, all of it worthwhile to the story and it managed to fit a lot of stuff for a variety of characters. It still managed to make it open ended enough that they could write another story if they ever chose to as well.

It's really amazing how amateur Bryke's writing is for a 13 ep series when compared to shows with a similar format. lol
 
There would be more time for the first season to develop it's plot. Bolin was funnier that season though, but pretty much after the first season, not too much in my opinion. There would be less focus on Eska without the awkward Bolin romance, less Opal...she'd still be in the show though...might actually be a more focused show actually.

Kuvira got half a paragraph of back story and character motivation.

I really agree with that. The show was really hurt trying to split its focus and it isn't like anything Mako & Bolin did had real plot importance.

I just thank Kuvira for giving us so many awesome action scenes. Fuck shes amazing. I loved how she was basically a metal avatar as she used metal in different ways as if they were different elements.

A year from now I'm going to look back on this show and Kuvira's action scenes might be one of the few fond memories. They were amazing.
 
Speaking of other shows. I just finished watching Suisei no Gargantia last week and it was really satisfying. Perfectly paced for 13 episodes, all of it worthwhile to the story and it managed to fit a lot of stuff for a variety of characters. It still managed to make it open ended enough that they could write another story if they ever chose to as well.

It's really amazing how amateur Bryke's writing is for a 13 ep series when compared to shows with a similar format. lol

Gargantia was so good. Watch the OAVs too if you havent already.

Chambro ;_;
 
I really agree with that. The show was really hurt trying to split its focus and it isn't like anything Mako & Bolin did had real plot importance.



A year from now I'm going to look back on this show and Kuvira's action scenes might be one of the few fond memories. They were amazing.
The show really did suffer from roster bloat. With that bloat actually came some good characters like Bumi, Kya, Kai, Lin and Suyin, but man there were just too many characters. If your show if One Piece length that's fine, but not with 4 13 ep seasons. With that a few characters get some decent moments to shine, but others turn into window dressing. I love Bumi, it would've been fun to hear him be proud of losing all of that weight. I actually like Kai too, but after the first ep this season he has about as much dialogue as Edward Scissorhands, Kya got put on a boat and people like Kya.
 
Speaking of other shows. I just finished watching Suisei no Gargantia last week and it was really satisfying. Perfectly paced for 13 episodes, all of it worthwhile to the story and it managed to fit a lot of stuff for a variety of characters. It still managed to make it open ended enough that they could write another story if they ever chose to as well.

It's really amazing how amateur Bryke's writing is for a 13 ep series when compared to shows with a similar format. lol
Well, leaving aside the last few episodes of Gargantia aside, I guess as a whole package it works.
And yeah, there are sequel OVAs set after the series finale.
 
You guys should watch Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood now

GOAT. Literally, Brotherhood is just so damn good. I really need to start watching it again soon.

Though I just discovered that Digimon Tamers in it's full is on Netflix, so I may watch that again, first.
 
Yeah, there were too many characters. I honestly found majority of them great, just wish they had a chance to flesh out. If it was one major storyline spanning like 50 episodes, it would have been great. I sure would have enjoyed more of Tenzin's siblings.

Maybe Mako would have been likable this way!
 
Yeah, there were too many characters. I honestly found majority of them great, just wish they had a chance to flesh out. If it was one major storyline spanning like 50 episodes, it would have been great. I sure would have enjoyed more of Tenzin's siblings.

Maybe Mako would have been likable this way!

I like Mako. =(
 
Brotherhood is definitely up there for best anime I've ever seen, and I'm still taking Korra over it.

That's how I know anime just doesn't do it for me like it used to.
 
Speaking of other shows. I just finished watching Suisei no Gargantia last week and it was really satisfying. Perfectly paced for 13 episodes, all of it worthwhile to the story and it managed to fit a lot of stuff for a variety of characters. It still managed to make it open ended enough that they could write another story if they ever chose to as well.

It's really amazing how amateur Bryke's writing is for a 13 ep series when compared to shows with a similar format. lol
Just added Gargantia to my "soon to watch" cue.
 
Brotherhood is definitely up there for best anime I've ever seen, and I'm still taking Korra over it.

That's how I know anime just doesn't do it for me like it used to.
I directly compare the two if only because the action is so similar, and Brotherhood just tells a more interesting and complete story.

I mean, this moment still gives me chills:
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Nothing in Korra really reached those heights for me, even if I'm fond of season 3.
 
Brotherhood is definitely up there for best anime I've ever seen, and I'm still taking Korra over it.

That's how I know anime just doesn't do it for me like it used to.
Different strokes for different folks and this isn't your first time stating your stance. I still love anime and the animation medium as a whole. I always found it to be a rather cool and inventive medium to tell a story. Fuck that "it's for kids" mentality.
 
Well, leaving aside the last few episodes of Gargantia aside, I guess as a whole package it works.
And yeah, there are sequel OVAs set after the series finale.

You mean the run to the series finale? I think it works, especially in regards to the theme of the series, the contrast in ideologies, and what it leads to. It could have been fleshed out better but they crammed a lot in there and still made it work for the most part.

And yeah, I know about the OVAs. I actually need to see Meguru Koro.

Just added Gargantia to my "soon to watch" cue.

It's good. Just be aware it has a bit of of fan-service and may seem slow in the first half but it's very much relevant to the theme of the show.
 
Yeah. Honestly, it feels like the show ran out of plot with Book 4. In hindsight, I think the series would have worked better as 3 books. They should have had Zaheer connected to Amon, and had it carry over from Book 1. And then had Harmonic Convergence be the final story as Book 3.

Harmonic convergence with a different villain. I feel like the Red Lotus' primary ideology would fit in with spirit and human realm joining together. Korra's uncle being the villain ruined everything.

Who hasn't watched Brotherhood?
Me. All of my friends in the anime club at my high school ostracized me for that. I watched FMA but stopped since it never clicked with me.
 
did you ex and her bff also once planned a private vacation after more or less confesing they couldnt live without each other

yes they've said that to each other

yes they've gone to the beach together. although with my exes parents...

are you new to girls being super bffs? I can assure you, is really looks gay sometimes.
 
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