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[Ithil]

seriously where was this? You talking about them hanging out in S3. the letter? the compliment? only if you are viewing things through shipper goggles.

Or you're viewing it through "friendship goggles". I'm not saying "I view this as buildup". I'm telling you it is.
You literally know it ends in a romance.

That Asami was the only one Korra communicated with while in the south pole was meant to be significant. You just didn't cotton on because you didn't think it was leading to a romance.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Add the buildup to the storytelling devices used in the last scene, and you'd have to be a homophobe to deny that Korra and Asami were in love.

http://heartlighting.tumblr.com/post/105606009782/final-bows-or-korrasami-is-canon-because

 

[Astral Dog]

I don't think Kuvira herself believed her poor motivations, wich don't explain the labor camps, or the bending racism, or her clearly aggresive, sadistic attitude, i mean, if she was trying to protect the earth Kingdom, why go after Waterbenders and Firebenders too? they are citizens and should be her " children" too,she can even use them as weapons! instead of abandoning them.

What we see must be the "real" kuvira, as we dont see the compassionate person she says she is.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Can somebody post again the list somebody made with foreshadowing? Some people didn't read that at all or some of their arguments would not stand that way. Until somebody can find it again, please have this. Mostly pictures and no written argumentation, but they do speak very well for themselves.

Starting off with the race track sequence from season 1 as romantic build up is really funny

 

[Jacob]

All of Asami's relationships with the rest of the Krew (romantic and otherwise) were underdeveloped. She was underutilized as a character from day one, but especially in Book 2 and later.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

most of those are literally mostly just scenes of them happening to be in the same place at the same time

 

[googleplex]

Add the buildup to the storytelling devices used in the last scene, and you'd have to be a homophobe to deny that Korra and Asami were in love.

http://heartlighting.tumblr.com/post/105606009782/final-bows-or-korrasami-is-canon-because

Jesus christ. What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Chariot]

^^seriously lol at the collection of screenshots. I guess Mako/Bolin are incestual or something. You cannot take scenes like that as evidence. This is just getting stupid at this point.

Starting off with the race track sequence from season 1 as romantic build up is really funny

Not the best argument, especially due lack of any actual argumentation, but I do think that the picture show something. The thing I searched for was what SG-17 posted.

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Add the buildup to the storytelling devices used in the last scene, and you'd have to be a homophobe to deny that Korra and Asami were in love.

http://heartlighting.tumblr.com/post/105606009782/final-bows-or-korrasami-is-canon-because

 

[Deleted member 231381]

very few people are arguing the ending doesn't indicate they are in love, people are just arguing it is narratively completely unjustified. these are two separate things. secondly, most of that article is about shipping. fuck that noise, shipping of all stripes is awful. im not saying "korrasami is poorly written" because i secretly wanted makorra to happen (ugh thats a shitty thought as it is), im saying it was poorly written because it was poorly written

 

[Omikaru]

Add the buildup to the storytelling devices used in the last scene, and you'd have to be a homophobe to deny that Korra and Asami were in love.

http://heartlighting.tumblr.com/post/105606009782/final-bows-or-korrasami-is-canon-because

Please, let's not do this. It's poor form to go accusing people of being homophobes when they're not saying or doing anything that's homophobic.

 

[Nesotenso]

Not the best argument, especially due lack of any actual argumentation, but I do think that the picture show something. The thing I searched for was what SG-17 posted.

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the tumblr post does nothing to explain if it was foreshadowed.

as an aside, bisexual pride flag colours?

edit: and the pictures show what? two girls hanging out together. I guess girls who hang out together are romantically interested in each other in reality.

 

[Astral Dog]

very few people are arguing the ending doesn't indicate they are in love, people are just arguing it is narratively completely unjustified. these are two separate things. secondly, most of that article is about shipping. fuck that noise, shipping of all stripes is awful. im not saying "korrasami is poorly written" because i secretly wanted makorra to happen (ugh thats a shitty thought as it is), im saying it was poorly written because it was poorly written

Many things about Korra are poorly written though, or rushed, too many characters, little time, etc.
Especially if we are talking about the romance plot, at leat it was a happy ending for Asami, i think, the other option is Makorra, and we got the lesser of two evils.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Many things about Korra are poorly written though, or rushed, too many chmaracters, little time, etc.
Especially if we are talking about the romance plot, at leat it was a happy ending for Asami, i think, the other option is Makorra, and we got the lesser of two evils.

no, fuck that

this is entirely what im talking about, this idea that everyone has to end up in a romantic pairing or the story isnt finished. fuck that. here's a more sensible option: nobody has had a good romantic development, so nobody goes into a romance. hooray! realistic character writing!

 

[Jacob]

Not the best argument, especially due lack of any actual argumentation, but I do think that the picture show something. The thing I searched for was what SG-17 posted.

I know some people are saying that the ending is ambiguous, but I agree with you, SG, and that tumblr person that it's not. It was clearly a mirror of the ending of ATLA, and the music and the framing and everything was probably as clear as they could convince Nick to make it. So I think it's a little silly to claim that the ending wasn't really Korrasami.

However, I think that the attempt to show foreshadowing for Korrasami earlier in the series is pretty shaky. Especially for stuff from Book 1, which was conceived and written as a stand-alone miniseries and that ended with a set-up for Makorra in much the same way as Book 4 ended with a set-up for Korrasami. But yes, clearly Korra and Asami were supposed to be good friends (even though I don't think this was well-developed, and they never really dealt with the aftermath of Korra being shitty to Asami in Book 2). But taking screenshots of Korra and Asami hugging or hanging out together is like taking screenshots of Zuko and Katara hugging and saying that ATLA Book 3 was setting up a Zutara ending. Plenty of people did do this back in 2008-08, of course, but Bryke are known teases when it comes to shipping. And more importantly, hugging and being protective of each other is not something exclusive to romantic relationships, especially in a show like Avatar/Korra where the power of friendship is a major theme.

 

[RedShift]

Add the buildup to the storytelling devices used in the last scene, and you'd have to be a homophobe to deny that Korra and Asami were in love.

http://heartlighting.tumblr.com/post/105606009782/final-bows-or-korrasami-is-canon-because

I don't think anyone is denying it (Though then again apparently some people refused to accept RenlyxLoras until Game of Thrones came out and showed them actually fucking onscreen so who knows), they're just saying they don't think it was set up before the final scene where it actually happens. I don't agree with that but I don't think it's homophobic to think that.

I think the reason people find it hard to see the build up is that before the final scene not many people really thought there was any chance of it happening, so they wrote off the stuff that was in hindsight leading up to it as just them being friends. I think rewatching Seasons 3 and 4 it'll look a lot more set up.

 

[Magwik]

Just a heads up I would have gladly thrown Korrasami under the bus for an ending with actual closure for all of the characters. Fuck I never would have though Naruto would end on a better note than Korra.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Please, let's not do this. It's poor form to go accusing people of being homophobes when they're not saying or doing anything that's homophobic.

I don't want to, but you have to always ask. Would people be as actively against it if it was Makorra (and not just because they don't like Mako)? I'm not saying anyone here is being intentionally homophobic, but I really doubt that some people's views on the ending aren't colored by the internal biases they were raised with.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Just a heads up I would have gladly thrown Korrasami under the bus for an ending with actual closure for all of the characters. Fuck I never would have though Naruto would end on a better note than Korra.

yeah, the ending was wank, but I don't know what else we could really have expected. Kuvira's "nah jks reeducation camps are just because I was an orphan" was fucking terrible

 

[Savitar]

For Kuvira, all they had to do to say her motivation was that the Earth Kingdom was going to hell and no one was really doing anything to fix it. The Avatar was gone and Su had refused, someone had to do something. Forget about the abandonment issues as a kid, that was just ugh worthy. The rest of it would have worked just fine if they carried it out that Kuvira was going to do anything and everything she could to make sure the Earth Kingdom would be strong no matter the cost, even to her. Hence trying to blow up her would be husband. If she was defeated she would go out fighting, too bad they couldn’t have her try and shank Korra when Korra was blocking the spirit blast. All I could think of that scene was “Gee having your back to her seems like an awful bad move”. Have Korra be stabbed in the back, lose control and part of the blast take out Kuvira/blind her/hurt her badly that she’s out of action and her troops fall apart.

When it comes to the re education camps always thought it was a set up similar to what the Dai Li was using on people before, you know the same thing they did with Jet only turning people pro Kuvira and more pro Earth Kingdom superior type thing. Random thought since I saw someone mention it earlier.

Considering that any time any invention was show being created in the Avatar universe from blimps to planes to cars to what you they seem to become common place more or less does that mean giant mechs is going to be the next big thing. Military wise it doesn’t seem like a bad idea.

That ending, yeah they pretty much pulled it out of the blue and the set up with how it ended was pretty “Yes this is how it looks like without us saying it because we’re not allowed”. Korra and Asami were holding hands and looking at each other the same was Avatar and Katarra did and Verrick and Zhu Li. Obviously they couldn’t depict it any more blatant due to Nick being Nick, no different then killing in that regard. The only real thing I could think that supported this sudden turn of events other than shippers was Korra only contacting her during season three which at the time took to be girl talk.

Poor Sato and damn I never realized his VA was Daniel Dae Kim.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Would people be as actively against it if it was Makorra (and not just because they don't like Mako)?

Yes

 

[Daemul]

Add the buildup to the storytelling devices used in the last scene, and you'd have to be a homophobe to deny that Korra and Asami were in love.

http://heartlighting.tumblr.com/post/105606009782/final-bows-or-korrasami-is-canon-because

I agree with the article but ahh...

 

[Chariot]

You guys are misunderstand me. My point isn't that a same-sex relationship is what definitely happened, but that both readings are valid. However that includes that the romance one is valid too and can be interpreted from their interaction, as well as the friendship one. And I am wondering how people can't see that their interactions could mean close friendship, but also a blooming same-sex love.
The analysis of the rather obvious little push into the love direction in the finale is just a bit of cream to sweeten the deal.

I am not here to take you opinion and view on the relationship, I am here to defend mine. Because at the point where you say that there was no build-up at all and that their love is invalid because there wasn't enough foreshadowing or because you don't want characters to end up in relationships at all, you're trying to make my opinion that one can view their interaction into the lovers territory at some point, invalid.

--

Just a heads up I would have gladly thrown Korrasami under the bus for an ending with actual closure for all of the characters. Fuck I never would have though Naruto would end on a better note than Korra.

I am quite glad that we didn't have to see more of Kishi Genetics. :,D

 

[Omikaru]

I think rewatching Seasons 3 and 4 it'll look a lot more set up.

This, 1000x this.

It was a bit eyebrow raising for me when I saw the ending, but then I thought about it and it makes sense. I can see their friendship blossoming into this over the course of Book 3 and 4, given the limited time they have to do these kinds of things, and it's not like they've gone into a fully-blown romantic relationship at the end of the show. Just an acknowledgement that these two have stronger feelings for each other than friendship, and they're gonna go and explore these feelings now they have a future to look forward to.

If they went from friendship to Aang and Katara's embrace at the end of ATLA, that would be poor writing because a lot needs to happen before you get to that point. I think Korra's ending was merely the start of that.

 

[Mononoke]

Me and Omikaru are working on the new Community thread. But we aren't sure what to call it. Here are our options:

KorraGAF Community - the positive to this is, it's what our community has become known as. The only issue is that, it doesn't really encompass the entire series. So do we go with this, to preserve our old community name?

ATLA Community - my issue with this is that, it singles out ONE show. Same as the issue with KorraGAF...except at least KorraGAF has some history behind it.

AvatarGAF Community - this title encompasses both series I think. But I hope people don't think it's a James Cameron thread.

IF we do decide that, we want to make a new community name, like an evolution of this one. One that represents BOTH shows in the overall series. We could add some info to the title:


AvatarGAF (ATLA/TLOK)

AvatarGAF (ATLA/Korra)

I'm personally leaning towards AvatarGAF....and maybe with the (ATLA/TLOK). But what are your guys thoughts. Ultimately this is about you guys. And I just want what is best for everyone.

 

[Jacob]

I don't want to, but you have to always ask. Would people be as actively against it if it was Makorra (and not just because they don't like Mako)? I'm not saying anyone here is being intentionally homophobic, but I really doubt that some people's views on the ending aren't colored by the internal biases they were raised with.

People hated Mako because of his role in the poorly-written romance subplot. I don't see it as being different from people claiming that Korra and Asami's ending was poorly written in terms of build-up, except that a lot more people liked Asami to begin with than liked Mako (here on GAF anyway).

For reference, reactions to the Makorra ending of Book 1 can be found in that season's OT, starting roughly at this page and continuing for many more after it:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466931&page=265

 

[Magwik]

Me and Omikaru are working on the new Community thread. But we aren't sure what to call it. Here are our options:

KorraGAF Community - the positive to this is, it's what our community has become known as. The only issue is that, it doesn't really encompass the entire series. So do we go with this, to preserve our old community name?

ATLA Community - my issue with this is that, it singles out ONE show. Same as the issue with KorraGAF...except at least KorraGAF has some history behind it.

AvatarGAF Community - this title encompasses both series I think. But I hope people don't think it's a James Cameron thread.

IF we do decide that, we want to make a new community name, like an evolution of this one. One that represents BOTH shows in the overall series. We could add some info to the title:


AvatarGAF (ATLA/TLOK)

AvatarGAF (ATLA/Korra)

I'm personally leaning towards AvatarGAF....and maybe with the (ATLA/TLOK). But what are your guys thoughts. Ultimately this is about you guys. And I just want what is best for everyone.

AvatarGAF (ATLA/Korra) for sure

 

[Astral Dog]

no, fuck that

this is entirely what im talking about, this idea that everyone has to end up in a romantic pairing or the story isnt finished. fuck that. here's a more sensible option: nobody has had a good romantic development, so nobody goes into a romance. hooray! realistic character writing!

Unfortunately, shipping is part of the Avatar series, it was coming, that moment with Mako was going to stay, even if it was a little one, it would have hinted at them.
Korra and Asami got a little development on books 3 and 4, enough for some, considering the type of show it is.

 

[Jacob]

Put me down for AvatarGAF (ATLA/Korra). I use the TLOK acronym a fair bit I think that having both "Avatar" and "Korra" in the title will help more people find the thread, both through browsing and searches.

 

[Chariot]

Call it "Last Airbender GAF" since Korra inherited the subtitle in part and everyone knows what it means without getting confused with Mr Camerons usb smurf movie.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

very few people are arguing the ending doesn't indicate they are in love, people are just arguing it is narratively completely unjustified. these are two separate things. secondly, most of that article is about shipping. fuck that noise, shipping of all stripes is awful. im not saying "korrasami is poorly written" because i secretly wanted makorra to happen (ugh thats a shitty thought as it is), im saying it was poorly written because it was poorly written

Are you sure you aren't just a homophobe? /s

It seems like it's hard for people to get this opinion. I've been saying that they were going to make Korrasami a thing for a while now, I'm fine with it happening, what I don't like is that they decided to end the show on that. The conversation with Tenzin was heartfelt and would have been the perfect spot to end the show and was honestly written like it was supposed to be, they should have done something with Korrasami before that, that way it wouldn't feel so incredibly tacked on and we would have an ending that closes on something much better, thematically.

I don't want to, but you have to always ask. Would people be as actively against it if it was Makorra (and not just because they don't like Mako)? I'm not saying anyone here is being intentionally homophobic, but I really doubt that some people's views on the ending aren't colored by the internal biases they were raised with.

You're assuming that everyone who doesn't like it is straight.

 

[Omikaru]

I'm a fan of AvatarGAF (ATLA/Korra). But I want to see what you guys think before we commit to anything.

I don't want to, but you have to always ask. Would people be as actively against it if it was Makorra (and not just because they don't like Mako)? I'm not saying anyone here is being intentionally homophobic, but I really doubt that some people's views on the ending aren't colored by the internal biases they were raised with.

I think in a broader sense, it may be okay to talk about that, because heteronormative perspectives are an issue in these things, but let's not go singling out specific members and accusing them explicitly of being homophobic when they haven't actually said anything homophobic and are denouncing homophobia in this thread. There are better ways to disagree with people than that.

If a mod tells me I'm wrong, or to STFU and stop backseat modding then I'll stop, but I think we should at least show each other some respect instead of getting into adhoms.

 

[RedShift]

AvatarGAF (ATLA/Korra) for sure

This one seems right to me.

 

[Mononoke]

You guys are misunderstand me. My point isn't that a same-sex relationship is what definitely happened, but that both readings are valid. However that includes that the romance one is valid too and can be interpreted from their interaction, as well as the friendship one. And I am wondering how people can't see that their interactions could mean close friendship, but also a blooming same-sex love.
The analysis of the rather obvious little push into the love direction in the finale is just a bit of cream to sweeten the deal.

I am not here to take you opinion and view on the relationship, I am here to defend mine. Because at the point where you say that there was no build-up at all and that their love is invalid because there wasn't enough foreshadowing or because you don't want characters to end up in relationships at all, you're trying to make my opinion that one can view their interaction into the lovers territory at some point, invalid.

--I am quite glad that we didn't have to see more of Kishi Genetics. :,D

The problem is going to come down to how story is presented, and how people view story elements. I think we can all agree that, in the real world someones sexuality is fluid. That, just because you date one sexual preference, doesn't mean you can assume they aren't Bisexual, OR that they aren't still finding themselves and haven't landed on a sexual preference they prefer.

So what this comes down to IMO...is the idea that, characters are either I. Static (ie. informed purely by the plot we are given) or II. living/breathing, that have elements of people in real life. And thus, don't need an exact plot to define all of their actions.

I would assume most people fall into category I. That plot 100% informs a character of who they are, and what the audience perceives them as. That action has reason, because it's plot that pushes said action. This is like, some of the basic core elements in storytelling.

So for many, the fact that Korra/Asami both had plot that was up front about romance with Mako, but then had no romance plot at all with Korra Asami...

They then find the action (ie. Korra and Asami being romantic at the end)....as not making sense. Because they need that plot to inform and push the action. Without the plot, it comes off as out of character, or not logically constructed.

The problem I think is, some people are coming at this from a non-static perspective (I'm not saying you are a problem. I think your views are valid. They are actually my views. I'm just saying I think this is where we have a disconnect between fans, and where we disagree and have a misunderstanding). We are saying, look...Korra and Asami were becoming close as friends. Really close. How do we know that they didn't have romantic feelings. Or what they were thinking. So them eventually taking that romantic step works...because we had that close relationship being built prior. The close relationship being built prior IS the plot leading to the action. Even if it didn't have a specific romantic plot, the groundwork is there for it to happen, if the characters fluid nature decided to act on it.

I just think it's a difference of opinions on how story is told, and how characters actions can be perceived.

 

[Chariot]

If a mod tells me I'm wrong, or to STFU and stop backseat modding then I'll stop, but I think we should at least show each other some respect instead of getting into adhoms.

I don't think it's not backseat modding to tell people to calm down and not insult other members, directly or indireclty. I am aware that I partly did that too, but I really have to scratch my head, when people refuse to see anything at all (people were talking absolutes).

-snip-

That's what made the relationship so wonderful, if we take that they are indeed in same-sex love, it was subtle and only informed by gestures, instead of obvious actions like kissing or even telling us exactly what's up. Mind you, I wrote that you can view their actions two ways and they work very well both times.

 

[Hero]

What's hilarious to me is that Korra cried at the end of season 3 because she thought the world didn't need her but maybe if she didn't abandon her duties and go MIA for 3 years and stepped up to help the Earth kingdom none of season 4 would've happened.

 

[Korten]

OK this is the third time I've been subtly called a homophobic on this topic so address my point or stop that shit. This has nothing to do with their gender! (particularly since I'm a die hard Azula/Ty lee fan)

I'm getting the feeling that unless you accept Korrasami in all ways, that all it's fans will consider you homophobic.

 

[Magwik]

What's hilarious to me is that Korra cried at the end of season 3 because she thought the world didn't need her but maybe if she didn't abandon her duties and go MIA for 3 years and stepped up to help the Earth kingdom none of season 4 would've happened.

She couldn't even walk for 2.5 of those years. Probably wasn't going to be much help for a nation in crisis.

 

[RedShift]

What's hilarious to me is that Korra cried at the end of season 3 because she thought the world didn't need her but maybe if she didn't abandon her duties and go MIA for 3 years and stepped up to help the Earth kingdom none of season 4 would've happened.

I don't think she cried at the end of S3 because of the world not needing her, I think it was more due to her horrible injuries making her unable to help the world.

 

[Gravidee]

What's hilarious to me is that Korra cried at the end of season 3 because she thought the world didn't need her but maybe if she didn't abandon her duties and go MIA for 3 years and stepped up to help the Earth kingdom none of season 4 would've happened.

I think you're forgetting a few significant details here.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

She couldn't even walk for 2.5 of those years. Probably wasn't going to be much help for a nation in crisis.

i mean yes and no

she has killed a giant spirit monster and saved the entire universe at this point, even if she can't fight she probably has a tonne of political capital. almost everyone in the ATLA universe who isn't a bad guy seems pretty excited by the avatar. having her more actively engaged in communications and liaisons after particular areas have been reunited would have probably done a metric shitton.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I don't think it's not backseat modding to tell people to calm down and not insult other members, directly or indireclty. I am aware that I partly did that too, but I really have to scratch my head, when people refuse to see anything at all (people were talking absolutes).

Yeah, I overstepped a bit too. It gets my goat when people can't see something right in front of their face. I start thinking there must be a deeper reason for their position.

 

[360pages]

Oh god, Naruto's ending is better...fuck.

 

[Chariot]

I'm getting the feeling that unless you accept Korrasami in all ways, that all it's fans will consider you homophobic.

Oh look, it's "Us vs Them". Surely Me, StaticShock, other fans of Korrasami and the hardcore shippers surely all are a hiveminded entity.

 

[Magwik]

i mean yes and no

she has killed a giant spirit monster and saved the entire universe at this point, even if she can't fight she probably has a tonne of political capital. almost everyone in the ATLA universe who isn't a bad guy seems pretty excited by the avatar. having her more actively engaged in communications and liaisons after particular areas have been reunited would have probably done a metric shitton.

I agree, but it still comes to point that her as a character was physically and mentally too broken to be bothered with anything like that.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I agree, but it still comes to point that her as a character was physically and mentally too broken to be bothered with anything like that.

i mean

sure, but the reason she was physically and mentally broken was because of zaheer, who was only a thing because she decided to open the spirit portals, which was only a thing because she helped unalaq. really, post-Amon Korra is fuck up after fuck up after fuck up, and they all stack.

 

[Mononoke]

I'm getting the feeling that unless you accept Korrasami in all ways, that all it's fans will consider you homophobic.

Well I haven't been following this thread. But it's 100% non-sense that you are homophobic because you don't support Korrasami. Same with being assumed a sexist. It's true that, there are going to be people out there against Gay relationships in TV, but to assume EVERYONE is like that, is really terrible. And it's a destructive opinion to have.

Because the fact is, this is a story with plot and characters, and not everyone is going to agree with how story is told. I've come around to the idea of Korrasami, but prior to that, I didn't like it (I actually always wanted Korrasami together even going back to Book 2, but I didn't like how the plot played out). I thought it felt oddly constructed, and forced at the end. That was my initial thoughts on it upon my first watch.

I've since changed my mind. But I had my reasons for thinking it was forced, that were not homophobic. They were rooted in my issues with the writing. My view points on story, and how it's told (and how characters are informed by plot).

I think the issue with this topic is that, we have the element that...gay romance is not accepted in Kids shows on TV. IN the past, Networks have heavily pushed against it with creators. And we are assuming that with this, Bryke also would have gotten push back. So we also assume that, if they really wanted Asami and Korra together, they HAD to make the plot pushed to the back, to get away with it. They HAD to use the friend and close relationship plot, as the replacement for their romance plot.

Because of this x factor. This outside factor of network pushback, censorship and stigma...we can't really have a discussion on whether it was bad writing or not. Or we can, but then the bad writing has justification for it. It's then hard to talk about, whether the romance should have had more plot that actually build up to that final action, when they might not have been able to.

So the whole thing is going to be a mess no matter what.

 

[Korten]

Oh look, it's "Us vs Them". Surely Me, StaticShock, other fans of Korrasami and the hardcore shippers surely all are a hiveminded entity.

Well considering people are taking issue with even the IDEA that this may not have been done well at all. Like we have said, no one is denying that Korrasami is real, but just as it's real, I have the right to say it was forced and bad writing and bad planning on part of the creators. If they had wanted to do Korrasami they should have planned better, but they didn't- it was planned poorly and ham fisted.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Oh look, it's "Us vs Them". Surely Me, StaticShock, other fans of Korrasami and the hardcore shippers surely all are a hiveminded entity.

I was ragging on Korrasami shippers just the day before the episode aired because I don't like people taking characters that aren't theirs and twisting them. But come the last scene and it suddenly hit me. I was wrong that there wasn't any build up. I recognize that, why can't other people?

Korra and Asami are nice to each other and are friends so everyone jumps to shipping them.

It's a gross thing that this is the first thing that comes to many people's (read: dudes) minds. It's as if women can't be friends and either they are being fake or they must be lesbians.


It's part of the reason why I hate shipping and most fandoms overall.

If the writers/creators did that I'd be 100% fine with it. The problem I have is when people take characters that are not their own and try to twist them to suit their own personal desires. I've never understood the need some people have to ship. I've come to hate shipping because it inevitably shits up discussion.

 

[Xpike]

Just a heads up I would have gladly thrown Korrasami under the bus for an ending with actual closure for all of the characters. Fuck I never would have though Naruto would end on a better note than Korra.

But closure for all characters would include Korrasami anyway?

Also, I vote AvatarGAF

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

i mean

sure, but the reason she was physically and mentally broken was because of zaheer, who was only a thing because she decided to open the spirit portals, which was only a thing because she helped unalaq. really, post-Amon Korra is fuck up after fuck up after fuck up, and they all stack.

Well if you want to think about it like that then none of this would have happened if Aang hadn't decided to stop the Fire Nation.