He is lying if he says he is 6ft too because we were pretty much level and I am 5'7.
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He is lying if he says he is 6ft too because we were pretty much level and I am 5'7.
When's the last time Fat Joe had a hit lmao
Could please, someone get a hold of Ja Rule ? I don't know what to make of thisSo Solange has entered the arena
Shit just got real.
Alligatorjandro
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So much cism
Hell yeah to all this but the bold... seems to be either lost or simply disregarded by everyone championing Banks on this.
Oldschoolgamer
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Lol
We also gonna act like Fat Joe wasn't running around putting in work with TS? lol
MoodyFog
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Waitin' for your album bro
Lol wtf is this shit. He used to be a guy people know.
Cross post from the BCT thread.
The "FUCK EVERYTHING" posts people have been making in regards to the this thread are even more annoying than anything else in this thread. All the posts going "So good..." in response to the aforementioned posts are almost as annoying, because they are acting as if they said anything meaningful.
If your opinion to anything is basically "Everything sucks/Everyone does it, so STFU", then you shouldn't speak on an issue, and that goes for music, gaming, anything. It adds nothing to the discussion. With that being said, whether or not you like Iggy's music, Bank's music, or Rap music in general is irrelevant. Which artists are eating, and who aren't, is also irrelevant. Other White rappers succeeding in Hip-Hop with little to no flak? Irrelevant. Whether or not you personally find the Grammys meaningful? Irrelevant.
Participating in, being successful from, and being a part of a culture different from yours regardless of race, is not the problem. People from outside the culture crowning a person who is not only NOT a true, quality representative of said culture, but is also a racist one at that, IS the problem. People from outside the culture crowning Whites within the culture not due to the merits of their music, but do to the fact that they're White, IS the problem. So many people pouring accolades and praise on a person who doesn't even respect the people responsible for the culture that made that person famous, IS the problem.
The "FUCK EVERYTHING" posts people have been making in regards to the this thread are even more annoying than anything else in this thread. All the posts going "So good..." in response to the aforementioned posts are almost as annoying, because they are acting as if they said anything meaningful.
If your opinion to anything is basically "Everything sucks/Everyone does it, so STFU", then you shouldn't speak on an issue, and that goes for music, gaming, anything. It adds nothing to the discussion. With that being said, whether or not you like Iggy's music, Bank's music, or Rap music in general is irrelevant. Which artists are eating, and who aren't, is also irrelevant. Other White rappers succeeding in Hip-Hop with little to no flak? Irrelevant. Whether or not you personally find the Grammys meaningful? Irrelevant.
Participating in, being successful from, and being a part of a culture different from yours regardless of race, is not the problem. People from outside the culture crowning a person who is not only NOT a true, quality representative of said culture, but is also a racist one at that, IS the problem. People from outside the culture crowning Whites within the culture not due to the merits of their music, but do to the fact that they're White, IS the problem. So many people pouring accolades and praise on a person who doesn't even respect the people responsible for the culture that made that person famous, IS the problem.
My point is, anyone with a cool look/persona can be groomed/manufactured into a hip hop star. It's the nature of the genre.
I'm a socially awkward 29yo with a receding hair line, I don't have the image. Lol
Sorry for the old Fat Joe reference. lol, but you get the point. I'm not into hip hop anymore, except for an occasional song here and there. The only real interest I have in the genre is a new Andre 3000 album, although he doesn't strictly fit into one musical category. He's the GOAT IMO.
listen bro if actions in ur top 5 fair play to you. all i'm saying is ain't no way on this planet none of ya'll can tell me the first time u listened to him you thought he sounded "unique"
and was a new breath of "fresh air"
NO WAY. just can't believe u.
but more importantly and back to the point@ hand i really hope the leak isn't bad for izzy.
cos i aint a hater...nah mean?
I never thought of such things other than some of his dope lines. He's far from my top 5 to be honest.
Agreed, but in that scope, the damage is minor. Fancy is up for Record of the Year, a popularity contest (and considering how huge Fancy was this year...), but not Rap Song, Performance, of Collaboration of the Year. New Classic is up for Rap Album of the Year, which is maybe the most questionable element, but Banks' and everyone's beef seems to be with RecordOTY, which is the more appropriate nomination.
JumpJeff84
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Ha ha, this is amazing
CookedChocobo
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Having a Black Friend =/= Having a Black Boyfriend, c'mon son.
JumpJeff84
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He said 'I'm not a fan but I enjoy listening to his raps from time to time', and your response was 'Listen bro if action's in your top 5 fair play to you'.
What am I missing here?
block tower
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just becuase you fuck someone doesnt mean you hold respect for their ethnic group as a whole. ive seen this in the real before.
Angelus Errare
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The porn subgenre of cuckolding is a testament to this.
Meh, check Donald Sterling. Dutch and Danish far-right wing politicians Pim Fortyn and Pia Kjaarsgard have also slept around with "colored" people (the former even mentioned it as evidence of not being racist) and yet both managed to be bigoted bastards none the less
the whole fuckin point dawgy
action is a follower not a leader!
he aint the real. just imitation blood
Long before my wife I had a German girlfriend who told me that she's so happy that I'm a good Italian unlike so many others. Well, that was that.
Wut?
I think the point still stands though. Having a black boyfriend doesn't absolve you from having racists beliefs.
You're weird.
jakefromstatefarm
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So, after gleaning the thread the salient questions appear to be:
Should Banks' remarks be taken seriously given the nature of her volatile/spiteful behavior (and evidently, her recent recognition of her own mistakes)?
To what extent is Iggy responsible for appropriating black culture?
Also, I don't think anyone's offered an adequate definition of culture (and its relationship with the American entertainment industry) nor an argument that persuasively contends to what extent a group of people can own a culture.
edit: additionally, people are really hung up on authenticity wrt artists within the music industry, which, imo, is not going to reach a fruitful conclusion
Should Banks' remarks be taken seriously given the nature of her volatile/spiteful behavior (and evidently, her recent recognition of her own mistakes)?
To what extent is Iggy responsible for appropriating black culture?
Also, I don't think anyone's offered an adequate definition of culture (and its relationship with the American entertainment industry) nor an argument that persuasively contends to what extent a group of people can own a culture.
edit: additionally, people are really hung up on authenticity wrt artists within the music industry, which, imo, is not going to reach a fruitful conclusion
To be fair, Donald Sterling had a black mistress.
JumpJeff84
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I'm not arguing whether or not he's 'the real', just that you seem to struggle with reading comprehension. He said he's 'not a fan' and likes to listen to his raps 'from time to time' and then you interpreted that as Action Bronson being 'in his top 5'. Quite a leap to make, based on what he said. Unless you know for a fact that he's heard exactly 5 rappers, why would you assume that he's in his top 5, dawgy?
Because, Bronson is a fake ass raper blood. Truth dawgy.
Fair enough, all I was trying to say was that being attracted to a member of a different race doesn't exclude you from being racist.
JumpJeff84
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I'm gonna PM a mod and get my name changed to 'Truth Dawgy'.
lol nah just the way he was so defensive could've swore it.
but seriously tho, i aint hating on action. cos guy can spit. aint no way around it. but cmooooon
just keep it real man. if ghost face didn't exist action bronson wouldn't exist
is that fair?
Bam Bam Baklava
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At least action bronson was born and raised in queens. He didn't just come here from a country like Australia and then act like he had been born and raised in Queens. To me, Iggy is more fraudulent than Milli Vanilli.
IrishNinja
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this & PD's post, bless
for real: i didn't/can't keep up with bank's weekly bullshit - i know she's been on TI's shit/calling him a coon for a minute & hated iggy since the freshmen class thing, but did she bring up this cultural appropriation shit prior? the way she falls apart trying to explain it in interviews really feels like some socio 101 shit where she found a hook for her bullshit hatred & is running with it...and considering it caught q-tip & solange its clearly working, sadly.
as was said: it's a bigger argument, but she's not the person to make it. and yeah, popular or not, mackelmore is a really weird target for this thread too
ps co-signing the bronson shit; if you still think he sounds at all like ghost, you haven't heard shit in years, FOH
yes this is entirely representative of hip hop as a whole, excellent observation
if rakim didn't exist, nas woudln't exist
if phonte didn't exist, drake wouldn't exist
chuck d, slick rick, kane - i just removed a ton of your favorite rappers without them
i wouldn't wear a fake fuckin rolex no matter what country it came from
cos i aint bout that life!
We're getting back to that authenticity argument again. Why does it matter where Iggy's from? Is she supposed to keep her accent up and rap about dingos or some shit for people to be satisfied? Last I checked artists lose/change their accents ALL THE TIME when performing.
Besides, some of y'all act like Iggy's the only rapper who fake stunts on tracks. The street cred, the body count, the vocal posturing. It's ALL bullshit most of the time.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Well, did people buy Madonna using that British accent? Authenticity matters.
jakefromstatefarm
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IrishNinja
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did heads care when 50 exposed officer ricky? authenticity rarely matters if you're liked
JumpJeff84
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I honestly haven't heard enough Action Bronson to really debate his merits with any real authority. I was just pointing out that you were really jumpin' to some conclusions there.
But as far as the whole "___ wouldn't exist without ____", yeah, no shit. People are inspired by those who came before. Nas wouldn't exist without Rakim, who gives a fuck? Judge the music on its merits.
It's an art form, not a 'Battle of the Realest'.
Wendel Clark
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Iggy is a slave master... in her own words
JumpJeff84
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Ha ha, just said the EXACT same thing. Great minds and all that.
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