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Two toes.
Legolas defying gravity. So he weighs less than the hobbits? Sure, why not.
that's straight from the books, good sir.
he's not lighter, but trained to do that - like shaolin monks are supposed to walk over sand without leaving prints.
Franchuzas87
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Franchuzas87
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Watching The Two Towers right now. It's funny to see Nori as one of the Rohirrim.
Legolas was such a bad ass in Fellowship. After the first movie they tried to make him even more bad ass but ended up making him more cartoonish.
I was going to quote the book if no one beat me to it.
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/54370/how-could-legolas-walk-on-snow
So, after finishing this new journey through Middle-earth with the release of BOTFA, yesterday I started watching The Fellowship of the Ring to continue the story. It truly is a timeless... wait, what...
What are these two old men doing, spinning and jumping through the air like prequel jedis?
And lol at some of the noticeable green screens around here. So bad.
Legolas defying gravity. So he weighs less than the hobbits? Sure, why not.
Now is time for a shoehorned action scene with a complete CG monster.
It must be contagious, because by just touching the troll Legolas also becomes fully CG. Wow.
It's also funny how after the bridge of Khazad Dum breaks, the Balrog falls but Gandalf keeps looking elsewhere. Maybe it's because he was in a studio looking to a tennis ball or something.
Speaking of filming inside a studio. Couldn't they find a real forest with big trees or what? Looks so fake.
Time for a fart joke. Classic Tolkien.
And now the dwarf/comic relief of the group falls for an elf. Can we go back to the fart joke, please?
Oh, look, miniatures. Looks great. Because they are REAL, you know...
...wait a second. What? Why is the statue on the left raising his right arm now? Lol, the CG team doesn't even care.
So Legolas has daggers, but he chooses to use his arrows in close combat too? Lol, so stupid.
My favourite part must be when the invented antagonist of this film confronts Aragorn and stabs himself just to get closer.
Silly guy in a costume, you deserve to be beheaded without a single drop of blood.
Man, I don't know what to say. Peter Jackson has just lost it. He is in George Lucas territory now, isn't he?
Joke post, obviously
This post is just.... good god. I know it's a joke but... fuck me.
It's almost perfect, but he missed out the part where Merry and Pippin throw rocks at the Uruks, which I saw some people complain about Bilbo doing in this last film.
Presumably buried with Thorin in the deleted funeral scene.
Saw it, I think i'm just going to echo alot of sentiments. I enjoyed the Hobbit movies, the acting was really good, some questionable CGI, I really liked everything including Smaug. What I disliked was all the shoehorned in ties to LoTR. Especially in the last movie with
Yea also alot of feels in the last movie. Lots of action, again the Legolas superhuman shit was distracting. I might actually buy the EE of this one.
Legolas being told to find Aragorn, it doesn't even make sense from a timeline perspective
Yea also alot of feels in the last movie. Lots of action, again the Legolas superhuman shit was distracting. I might actually buy the EE of this one.
AUJ EE and DOS EE are essentials too. All of the added scenes are fantastic.
Franchuzas87
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Oh, good point.
For the record, FOTR is my favourite of the six films. Probably even my favourite film in general.
I know the Hobbit trilogy shows a Peter Jackson with less creativity constraints, and sometimes that doesn't work well. We all know there are issues and questionable decisions in the new films. But some people just sound like that.
Should have deleted any number of scenes instead of that one then. That sounds like a pretty important thing to skip over.
I don't know, I get it, from the moment
he returned to normal, the arkenstone no longer mattered.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
It's interesting how this and Vashetti's spoiler thread are garnering the most discussion while the OT is dead and buried. All goes according to the Count's plan.
I still think it should have been wrapped up,especially after so much focus.
tryagainlater
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Likely didn't want the movie to have a bunch of false endings like Return of the King which got criticized for that.
Grinchy
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Well I just got home from seeing it and I am sorely disappointed. I didn't watch trailers or read any reviews or impressions. I went in totally blind. If anyone could have liked this boring movie, it was me. It just wasn't any good. It was boring and predictable and I want my money back. I've never felt that way after seeing any of the other LOTR or Hobbit movies.
This reminded me of ROTK where there was so much impossible to believe action taking place in all corners of the screen that it was too exhausting to care anymore. Especially since you know the main characters will come out unscathed. There's really no tension, it's all just fluff. I just couldn't buy into what I was seeing on screen in this one.
This reminded me of ROTK where there was so much impossible to believe action taking place in all corners of the screen that it was too exhausting to care anymore. Especially since you know the main characters will come out unscathed. There's really no tension, it's all just fluff. I just couldn't buy into what I was seeing on screen in this one.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I was about to fucking rage hard on your post. Then saw the spoiler.So, after finishing this new journey through Middle-earth with the release of BOTFA, yesterday I started watching The Fellowship of the Ring to continue the story. It truly is a timeless... wait, what...
Joke post, obviously
Fuck me. I was literally bursting out of anger.
Because Thranduil's main motivation for getting the white gems from inside Erebor was his dead wife.
And she was killed inside Gundabad, where Legolas and Tauriel go to track Bolg.
I don't know what you think unscathed means, but the second most main character in the Hobbit died, as did two other dwarves, one of which was heavily featured throughout the movies.
It does, he's about 27 in the movie timeline.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ShqgOuWUuwA
It also explains why Legolas jumps to his defense at the Council of Elrond.
Dabookerman
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I got the artbook today, and man.. so much stuff cut from the theatrical version.
Gandalf's Vision - He sees Smaug leading an army of orcs on what looks like the end of the world.
Beorn being badass
Alfrid's death
Beorn being badass
Alfrid's death
HomerSimpson-Man
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Whelp, watching TBOFA last friday pretty much pushed me into watching my LOTR Extended Edition blu-ray set.
I finished it today and I still get all emotional the end. I remember well the crique of too many endings and can understand, but I don't care, but the end I wanted them all! 11 hours spread over 2 days binge watching over 6 blu-ray discs, in which the last two disc were 2 hours a piece, it's like the greatest mini-series of all time.
Of. All. Time.
I finished it today and I still get all emotional the end. I remember well the crique of too many endings and can understand, but I don't care, but the end I wanted them all! 11 hours spread over 2 days binge watching over 6 blu-ray discs, in which the last two disc were 2 hours a piece, it's like the greatest mini-series of all time.
Of. All. Time.
Third one sounds good.
At least he has an ending and it kills the rumour of him being Grima's father, not that I believed it anyway.
Edmond Dantès
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To be fair, regardless of the nature of the post, I have come across many scholars whose critiques would be far harsher than those.
Edmond Dantès
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BertramCooper
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Edmond Dantès;144502240 said:
Jackson needs to take a break from blockbusters, period.
I love The Lord of the Rings trilogy, but I think Heavenly Creatures might be my favorite Jackson film.
Edmond Dantès
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I suspect that he'll work on a couple of smaller films before starting work on the Dam Busters.
For many though, his reputation as a director is tainted.
BertramCooper
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Edmond Dantès;144512182 said:
I don't know if The Lovely Bones counts as a smaller film, given its extensive (and awful) special effects, but if it does, I fear that Jackson really has lost his touch.
Because Jesus Christ, The Lovely Bones is horrendous.
PairOfFilthySocks
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I'm confused. Were you trying to take the piss out of people who bash the Hobbit films with your post by pointing out similar elements in Fellowship? Because if you were you don't seem terribly knowledgeable about filmmaking or why the rampant criticisms of the Hobbit aren't remotely applicable to Fellowship.
CoffeeExpress
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whats this about then?
Franchuzas87
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Listening to Peter, Fran and Philippa commentary in The Two Towers EE, I find kinda funny when they explain that the sequence in Osgiliath at the end of the film was made because they decided to leave Shelob for the third film and needed a new climax for the Frodo side of the story.
Is practically the same they did this time with the Smaug chase in DOS (though I don't like the result so much).
Is practically the same they did this time with the Smaug chase in DOS (though I don't like the result so much).
BertramCooper
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Christopher Tolkien hates all of the Middle-earth films. A lot.
Which honestly is a good thing, in my opinion. If the Tolkiens' intransigence can keep this franchise from being exploited, good on them.
PairOfFilthySocks
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The key difference being that TT had the emotional peak of Sam's story speech to Frodo, which formed an effective and natural dramatic stopping point for the story. DOS ended in the middle of an action scene. Guess which is a considerably better way to end a film.
Franchuzas87
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And that's why I said I don't like the result so much. The first time I saw TTT, I left the theater a bit disappointed, but the ending has grown a lot on me since then.
The ending of DOS is definitely abrupt. It works well if you watch the films together, but not with a span of one year between them. Also, the chase is too long for my taste.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Yeah, the ending to Desolation of Smaug felt more to me like if they had ended TTT when Aragorn says to Theoden, "Ride out with me."
Beelzebufo
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The beginning of this movie was lame. I figured they had something up their sleeve to justify moving over the fight, but it really seems like they could have given us a proper end to the last movie if they had just cut out a few minutes of spider stuff or that beast guy.
I liked all the different animals people ride though. They just kept getting better and better! First the pig was cool, then there was an elk, and then just when you thought it couldn't get any better those bighorn sheep showed up.
I liked all the different animals people ride though. They just kept getting better and better! First the pig was cool, then there was an elk, and then just when you thought it couldn't get any better those bighorn sheep showed up.
People in my theater were audibly annoyed by the DOS ending, including my wife.
At the end of BofTA there was a round of applause.
Christoff Yurievich
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that third one...I was wondering why they focused on that character so much only to have him walk away with a 'you're slip is showing' parting line.
MrAstronaut
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I went into the movie blind (I read The Hobbit years ago) and came out pretty disappointed.
That being said I did feel some sort of closure for the series. They definitely tried to tie the end of the movie to the beginnings of FOTOR, which I'll give them some props for.
Like with the end of DOS, the beginning of this film was a weak place to start.
The battle between Smaug and the Bard felt clipped short. Plus Smaug basically walked into his own death (wasn't he supposed to be smart?) Also everyone has amazing eyesight in this movie.
The motivations for the main characters were uninteresting and felt unimportant.
The arkenstone, what felt like the central part of the movie, never got resolved.
The comic relief was just too much to handle.
Sting should have been glowing blue up on Raven Hill.
That being said I did feel some sort of closure for the series. They definitely tried to tie the end of the movie to the beginnings of FOTOR, which I'll give them some props for.
I would prefer that they actually get involved with an HBO version of the Silmarillion sometimes next decade. Like GRRM with the Game of Thrones adaption but with even more editorial control.
Franchuzas87
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I had already read something about the ending days before, so it didn't bother me that much, but I went with a cousin who didn't know anything and left really annoyed.
Did they mention why Eomer looks so weird at the end of the movie? I think it's either bad CG or a different actor with makeup on to look like him. I vaguely recall hearing that he was away on another movie and unavailable for that ending shot of them riding towards the camera.
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