Aren't there counter-hackers trying to stave off Lizard Squad? Perhaps there are ways to support them. Being keyboard tough guys yelling into the air seems counterproductive.
LIZARD SQUAD is Back. Planning XBL Attack. "Biggest attack yet". [UP: XBL/PSN Down]
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Aren't there counter-hackers trying to stave off Lizard Squad? Perhaps there are ways to support them. Being keyboard tough guys yelling into the air seems counterproductive.
Of course it can, refusal to believe fact is just dumb.
So this the reason you wish violence on people? Sounds like every job ever to me. glad you had a career change.
Believe it.
If somebody wants your site down and they have the resources, your site is going down, at least temporarily.
Justice_Bolt
Member
Jesus! This is getting ridiculous. Something must be done to prevent this. How much money Sony and Microsoft are losing because of this?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Sitting back going la la la doesn't bother me none isn't going to change anything either.
There needs to be some serious repercussions for this shit.
Like many have said before me: there's not much you can do to prevent a DDoS attack.
Once again, that's a little much.
That's why they should be made an example of. They should be dealt with the harshest penalty for their crime I think.
Edit: I saw that interview before. One member saying he wants to commit terrorist attacks against the government because he has to pay taxes and he can't pay for sex? Pretty much sums up their way of thinking I guess...
If any of Lizard Squad goes to jail, they will be facing the many horrors that lie inside the American prison system. I'm sure that would satisfy you, right?
KennyLinder
Member
Sure a website, but huge online services? It's crazy that is not preventable.
Why don't they take down banks and shit? :-D
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
To pull their pants down and whip their asses with a stick? It's just a little humiliation and a small bit of pain. Nothing permanent, except (hopefully) emotional scars.
SyenceLabb
Member
Yes. Any online service accepting connections can be vulnerable. It's just a matter of how much bandwidth a DDoS attack has to chew up before services begin shutting down. Even a site like google.com is vulnerable, but its infrastructure dwarfs PSN and XBL.
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Cleverly designed server load balancing can also help, but only to an extent.
giancarlo123x
Banned
The government would dropkick their doors down real quick if they tried to take down a bank.
last 2 days have been insane for attacks in seattle, st louis, chicago and miami........3 of those are probably major data centers.
http://map.ipviking.com/
http://map.ipviking.com/
unknownhero
Member
seeing as they have done more than DDoS attacks, yup.
You sound more tough guy than anyone you're arguing with you hypocrite.
That's great. So the only incentive left is that these (already hard to justify) services are really not worth paying for.
Have you seen the hyperbolic anger in here? People who go to banking sites don't do that. People who play games are happy to provide laughable vitriol, though.
BronsonLee
Member
After following this thread and skimming info for the past two days, I'm pretty sure I know more about Marcel's hatred of violence and the American prison system than I do about Lizard Squad.
Paracelsus
Member
One guy is going to die for dissing a religion, when people all over the world and www make fun of all religions all the time, these people are hurting the bottom line of something that definitely exists and nobody does a thing about it. When does it become time to set an example, like a decade in prison?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
No because they'd be right back out on the streets again. Let them suffer another country's prison.
...Scatter...
Banned
Not sure if this much attention is good for them. Once they become a financial problem and they make mainstream news it could become real bad for them. I hope they get escalated on the FBI shit list.
So true!
You frequent a gaming forum, hence you hear about the gaming incidents.
Doesn't mean other sites aren't getting hit as well.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/18/us-cyber-summit-banks-idUSBRE94G0ZP20130518
When Christmas Break is over and they have to go back to school.
If it was would this stuff stop?
What else would I lose in the process
I say just get rid of Twitter but apparently you can say you the most demonic things on there and people are like 'oh well'
This is pretty disturbing
Calling for violence is baseline tough guy bullshit, dude, which you did. Don't put your schoolyard fight logic on me.
Riiiight. People take video games seriously, but not money.
No doubt.
Oh please
Jest Chillin
Member
You're deluding yourself if you think people wouldn't be even MORE angry if they couldn't get access to their money.
You and me have different definitions of flogging then.
Mihos
Gold Member
If someone walked in to papa johns with a gun and shot up the place, you would seriously expect free pizza because of "poor you"?
Bingo. "Oh guys please quit it, Violence is not the way. Let the police do their jobs. Bubba will take care of them in prison." LOL.
This really has nothing to do with hardware or security. These "hackers" (I use the term loosely) are using a BotNet (thousands or more of PC's usually infected with malware) to send massive amounts of data to Sony's network. The packets usually all have spoofed IP addresses, making it impossible to determine exactly where they are originating from. It doesn't matter how many blades Sony spins up, if their outward facing internet connections are 100GB/s (just an example) these guys could be hitting them with easily double that amount of traffic. Not to mention the normal traffic from Christmas day.
As I said earlier there are services such as Cloudflare that tout being able to redirect the bad traffic.
Shadowhaxor
Member
While it's hard to prevent them, it's not hard to hardening your network to help mitigate the damage. I typically recommend the following services to my clients;
https://www.blacklotus.net/
http://www.prolexic.com/
These guys rock when it comes to mitigating DDoS attacks and I've seen them in action several times. Perhaps it's time for both networks, hell, everyone conduct an audit and then hit these guys up.
OverBlood 3
Banned
People are getting agitated.
Bolts-n-Rays1109
Banned
I've been looking everywhere for this website. Thank you for posting it. St. Louis and Seattle are really getting hammered.
KennyLinder
Member
Thanks for the replies. It seems the Internet is screwed then.
Prison sentences seem like suitable punishments for online sabotage.
Prison sentences seem like suitable punishments for online sabotage.
Were they worth paying for before the DDoS attack? How does something they can't fend off change your opinion on the service itself?
the irony of your antagonistic posts is lost on you i guess? or are you a harsh mirror showing us the error of approaching the conversation with angry confidence of our own world view?
But they are hose jobs. I already pay for my internet, but have to pay again in order to use it on their devices.
Anyway, I don't want to argue anymore. I just want this shit to stop, so we can move on. We are going to have to agree to disagree.
It's a stupid diversion in this conversation because banking organizations can afford better networking and engineers than game companies and publishers.