LIZARD SQUAD is Back. Planning XBL Attack. "Biggest attack yet". [UP: XBL/PSN Down]

My Destiny habit is being broken due to this downtime, going cold turkey is tough and I have bad cramps and sweats atm, but that could of been from the amount of food I consumed yesterday.
 
DAREALGUMMY said:
Twitter has shitty policies that should be changed yes, but everyone thinking a closed account will stop this are kidding themselves. This is the internet, people will share things across all social media sites. People have a problem with giving things attention that it wants to create when it can be ignored.
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I never said it would stop them, but they sure as hell should not allow them to use Twitter as a platform. Yet they continue to do so.
 
VincentMatts said:
at the end of the day, these hackers are probably doing this to get paid. If I was Sony I would do the same thing. It sends them a message, I ain't going to pay you I'll turn off my own network.
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If that was the case they wouldn't be public about it. I have deal with my cases of ransom on the web and they always tend to act low and with the lease amount of exposure possible.
 
Manp said:
that article explain how the attack works and how it can be prevented or at least mitigated by fixing the vulnerabilities on the open NTP servers used to conduct the attack.

said NTP servers are used by the attacker to generate traffic that hits the target of the attack. basically the attacker ask these servers for stuff and provide the ip of the target as the ip to send answers to, and by doing so generating a huge amount of traffic to the target servers that they can't cope with.

the NTP servers used by the attacker are in no way under the control of the target so there is no way any of the solution explained to mitigate the attack can be actually used by the target to stop the attack.
what the article is saying is that if you are running a public and open NTP server you should know better and not leave it unpatched so an attacker can use your NTP server against a third part.

from the point of view of the target (Sony in this case) there are other things that can be done, but are not explained in that article you linked.
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Agreed. It's clear s/he didn't actually read the article.

Revengineer said:
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SecurityNotice#DRDoS_Amplification_Attack_using
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Once again, you show an article displaying how a person that hosts an NTP server can stop people from abusing their service, but not how a person being DDoSed can stop it. From the header:

NTP users are strongly urged to take immediate action to ensure that their NTP daemons are not susceptible to use in a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack. Please also take this opportunity to defeat denial-of-service attacks by implementing ingress and Egress filtering through BCP38.
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ironcreed said:
I never said it would stop them, but they sure as hell should not allow them to use Twitter as a platform. Yet they continue to do so.
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It's near impossible to stop people from registering and using accounts quickly as Twitter Support works at the speed of smell. The suspension will happen but not before they get off a few word salvos. People used the hydra comparison earlier and I think that's appropriate.
 
Marcel said:
There are plenty of places to e-dickwave other than Twitter. You know people would be going there to find out what's happening regardless of the medium of the message.
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If they move to another place they just need to keep banning them, they're only using Twitter because until now nothing was done by Twitter. In my opinion it will not solve the problem, but there's no reason why a platform should let alleged 'Cyber Terrorists' get all this attention.
 
tengiants said:
The attack can be mitigated through different filters and blocking DNS requests coming from open DNS hosts at the target level, as explained in the article. I guess taking down your whole network instead of paying your top tier network guys to come in on a holiday to mitigate damage might be cheaper for Sony.
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something is explained in the slides at the bottom. on first look i thought that was an ad
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recks said:
If they move to another place they just need to keep banning them, they're only using Twitter because until now nothing was done by Twitter. In my opinion it will not solve the problem, but there's no reason why a platform should let alleged 'Cyber Terrorists' get all this attention.
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I think it's not a matter of Twitter "allowing them" so much as Twitter Support is fucking terrible and slow. See also the abusive voices of the Gamergate "movement".
 
NYR said:
Finest squad is saying on Twitter that Sony took down the network, it is not being hacked. Won't bring it back up until thry are sure it won't happen again.
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Lies, I can see friends signed in and the PS3 and Vita are in no problem.
 
Marcel said:
I think it's not a matter of Twitter "allowing them" so much as Twitter Support is fucking terrible and slow. See also the abusive voices of the Gamergate movement.
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Shit look at how twitter deal with members of IS, they do nothing so a bunch of DDoS kids isn't even going to stir them into action.
 
ironcreed said:
I never said it would stop them, but they sure as hell should not allow them to use Twitter as a platform. Yet they continue to do so.
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Twitter lets ISIS use Twitter, you really think they'd block an account used by "for the lulz" hackers? As long as the tweets themselves aren't illegal (child porn or something) Twitter shouldnt censor them. Too much of a slippery slope.
 
Marcel said:
And yet I'm sure they can find another site to use for their mouthpiece while also coordinating DDOS attacks on IRC or wherever they're doing it. Getting them off Twitter won't change much.
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True, but Twitter is such a mainstream and easy way of passing on information with retweets and such, that if they went to something else, you wouldn't really see it unless actively looking. They would have to turn to other means, which would take more time to get what they have to say out into the public, which would make it too much like work and take the fun out of it.
 
CozMick said:
But it would take them away from the public eye.
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Debateable. I'm pretty sure the media or NeoGAF would still be able to find the source of an attack or evidence of a responsibility claim, because they will happen regardless of whether or not the group is on Twitter.
 
When does Vita sale's End? I want to buy Chasing the Sun on discount. :S

Edit: NM, Vita PSN Store is up, is just very slow atm.
 
kevin1025 said:
True, but Twitter is such a mainstream and easy way of passing on information with retweets and such, that if they went to something else, you wouldn't really see it unless actively looking. They would have to turn to other means, which would take more time to get what they have to say out into the public, which would make it too much like work and take the fun out of it.
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I can't speak for the attackers obviously but it seems like something they enjoy doing because it is making some people suffer implicitly. Whether or not they can gloat on Twitter seems like icing on the cake.
 
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