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The Order: 1886 trailer - "Silent Night"
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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I still don't get the complaints.
Handy Fake
Member
Otherwise known to many men as "marriage".
I really don't understand the hate this game gets. It's like every goddamn game has to reinvent the wheel to be appreciated.
Sure, it's more than likely a typical-playing cover-TPS with some QTEs, but it looks more than competent in those areas, and the setting/story/characters looks awesome.
Isn't Quantum Break basically a TPS too? Isn't Bloodborne just a sequel to Dark Souls? Isn't the new Batman just a new Batman?
Sure, it's more than likely a typical-playing cover-TPS with some QTEs, but it looks more than competent in those areas, and the setting/story/characters looks awesome.
Isn't Quantum Break basically a TPS too? Isn't Bloodborne just a sequel to Dark Souls? Isn't the new Batman just a new Batman?
10/10
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Exactly!
lmao good one
IndoAssassin
Banned
Because QB has time manipulation, Bloodborne is more about offense than defense, and Batman has the batmobile.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Werewolves man... werewolves and lightning guns.
IndoAssassin
Banned
You had me at werewolves
Bloodborne and Batman are the fourth in their series, and I'll hold off on QB until I know it's not the same smoke-and-mirrors as Alan Wake.
....and 1886 has a good storyline with werewolves. How many f'in games have werewolves?
EDIT - beaten on the werewolves! (and I don't mean to flame the aforementioned games, just playing devil's advocate)
Nightengale
Member
Risk means different things to different people.
Sure, it's easy to look at The Order and think it's lolnotrisky because TPS, etc, but from a development perspective, it's the first console game from a previously PSP-focused developer, on a new in-house engine, tackling the genre for the first time on their own on a new IP. And while mechanically there's no ground-breaking innovation, there's enough at the fundamental level that it wasn't an easy task for any developer, like the weapons and stuff.
At the end of the day, not every developer looks to be a force of gameplay innovation, especially if this is their first console/large-scale project. Just an investment at RAD for them to do this is plenty risky. I mean, Sony's not foreign to projects where smaller devs bit off more than they could chew. (PSAll Star, Twisted Metal, and Journey to an extent )
Sure, it's easy to look at The Order and think it's lolnotrisky because TPS, etc, but from a development perspective, it's the first console game from a previously PSP-focused developer, on a new in-house engine, tackling the genre for the first time on their own on a new IP. And while mechanically there's no ground-breaking innovation, there's enough at the fundamental level that it wasn't an easy task for any developer, like the weapons and stuff.
At the end of the day, not every developer looks to be a force of gameplay innovation, especially if this is their first console/large-scale project. Just an investment at RAD for them to do this is plenty risky. I mean, Sony's not foreign to projects where smaller devs bit off more than they could chew. (PSAll Star, Twisted Metal, and Journey to an extent )
he means to some extent freedom to studios on what sort of "game" they want to make and yes when it comes to say something like heavy rain vs normal games the freedom is evident. In this the difference would be in the heavy focus rad has put on cinematic aspects and no I dont believe making a game fully cinematic is completely safe (tps/great graphics are) but the huge focus on story and using film grain etc it def rad doing its own vision of what it thinks the game should be. If they played it safe it would be more gears. Would have mp , co-op etc. The problem is if you look at in from the perspective of all games in general then yeah not much new is going on here but within the context of tihs is a mobile dev whos been given almost equal billing to established sony first parties and dont have mp and other parts shoe horned in yes it says quite a bit.
IndoAssassin
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I was just trying to pinpoint why those games don't generate as much hate eventhough the gameplay is all samey in them as well.
1970 Chevelle SS
Neo Member
He said anticipated.
El-Pistolero
Member
Holy Shit! Hahahahahaha...
Secret_asian_man
Member
damn, hahaha
RaD should really just let Ru and Pessino be the only people to talk about this game in public. Their passion is incredible. Pessino's Facebook post on the score got me hyped and I usually don't put much stock in game music.
Can Crusher
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Cheeseman Battitude
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You sir, win.
She had that scar in chapter 2, which happens before the hospital.
[screenshot from old build when they still used "ceremonial" suits]
She had that scar in chapter 2, which happens before the hospital.
Whelp, its safe to say the game probably being a short romp things will be getting spoilery from now on and it's time to go on blackout.
I think we will get another set of previews in January and then "launch trailer" in Feb. So far they sticked to their "no big spoilers" rule, and they hidden the storyline and surprises pretty well from us.
Naughty_Doge
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Just posting if it hasn't been posted yet. Keep your pies and your laugh tracks, Lafayette is here to save the day.
Well, there's your comedy.
Where is the podcast you're referencing?
Exactly.
But hey, it's a PS4 exclusive that looks like CG, so the usual suspects will shit on the game don't matter what.
It could be the best game ever made, but people would find a way to shit on it.
Naughty_Doge
Member
Can we stop playing the victim? Not everyone who has criticized the game has an agenda against Sony. People need to understand that being overly defensive of the game only contributes to make The Order threads as ridiculous as they are.
DirgeExtinction
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Well, then. I do hope that wasn't a spoiler in this trailer. Knowing RAD, I doubt it was.She had that scar in chapter 2, which happens before the hospital.
[screenshot from old build when they still used "ceremonial" suits]
OsirisBlack
Banned
So there's another TPS set in Victorian London with Werewolves and has the Knights of the round as lead characters? Seems a lot of games coming out after the Order like the setting at least, there are two that are pretty much using the same locale.
yep, thats pretty silly because there arent any similar games. Going even further, there arent many similar TPS for PS4 either...
ThatGuyAgain
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LTTP... just watched the video... goosebumps.
nycgamer4ever
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So i guess even after the experience with TLOU you haven't learned your lesson not to judge a game too quickly?
LOL
nycgamer4ever
Member
there is no difference between gameplay and cutscenes in this game. I have friends who played it at PSX.
BattleMonkey
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The multiple gameplay previews/demo that have been shown off, don't make the game look very much fun or seem to be building much confidence in people.
nycgamer4ever
Member
It's not half as ridiculous as the concerned posts and complaints in all The order threads.
I don't think their entirely human. My guess the "blackwater" is synthetic blood. Might be another Vamps vs Lycans type of thingy.
DirgeExtinction
Member
That would be slightly disappointing.
Hells Bells you've won the Internet. Bravo.
PSX impressions were damn good, for the most part.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Okay this made me laugh, cause its true.
lighthouse777
Member
question, guys
how much of this game is QTE's?
I could not play GOW because of that.. and I am not in the mood to waste 60 bucks on a game, that for me, may be unplayable
I really really hate QTE's
I do have this pre bought but am thinking of canceling and using this to pay off Witcher
which I know I can play
how much of this game is QTE's?
I could not play GOW because of that.. and I am not in the mood to waste 60 bucks on a game, that for me, may be unplayable
I really really hate QTE's
I do have this pre bought but am thinking of canceling and using this to pay off Witcher
which I know I can play
Chance Hale
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I miss True Blood, so I'm up for this.
It's 110% QTEs.
Mr. Giggles
Member
Can't wait for this game, don't care about anyones concern!!
biglittleps
Member
If you really want to know then check the new gameplay demos and see yourself. Actually this game does not exactly have QTE instead its a branching events and follows differently to give meaningful fight either you fail or success in that according to some previews. This game combines everything like action, story, different gameplay elements etc., so if you want something unique then keep your preorder otherwise wait for witcher 3.
EDIT: GOW QTE are mostly optional except in few case as you can kill enemies without them also.
My wife would also approve, btw.
Just think about how careful RAD has been to show footage that might spoil anything they don't want to. That scene is similar to the TLOU's trailer that tries to play with viewers' heads by showing Ellie pointing her gun at the screen in once scene and Joel grabbing his stomach with great pain in another, etc.
I'm 100% certain that's no significant spoiler.