Sony announces 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles sold WW

Neff said:
Mmm hmm...



I'm not refering to PS4 as empty, more Sony's hubris surrounding it relative to the fact that they really aren't doing a lot with it besides watching it print money.

But that said, if anyone was going to make a console which feels truly next gen, it was Sony, and I don't believe they achieved that.
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The Morpheus man. Just you wait.
 
Mikey Jr. said:
That was back in November.

They sold 1.2 mil in Nov in NA....lets add another 600k for rest of world.

Who knows how much they sold in December. Apparently you sell more in December, so 1.5 mil in NA, and 700k in rest of world?

So 4 mill plus that 10 mill shipped, you get 13 mil sold through?

I pulled almost every number out of my arse.
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I'm pretty sure that 10 million number included most of the consoles they shipped to the stores for the Holiday.

they was careful to say soon to be 10 million shipped.

I took that to mean they was at 7 million & had 3 or so million shipping out for the holidays.
 
Neff said:
But that said, if anyone was going to make a console which feels truly next gen, it was Sony, and I don't believe they achieved that.
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There was a thread here at the end of 2012 in which 95% of people thought that it was MS that was most likely going to make the most powerful next gen console...

Actually it wasn't even "most likely". People were sure of it.
 
Not really sure what this Call of Duty tangent relates to...

But this is the first month platform splits for the first 4 games on both last gen HD console platforms courtesy of jvm.

call-of-duty-history-breakdown.png


Relative installed base:
Nov 2007 - 76:24
Nov 2008 - 67:33
Nov 2009 - 64:36
Nov 2010 - 62:38

The games seem to have largely sold along installed base lines, with the exception of probably MW2. The US territory has typically had near a 2:1 installed base advantage for the 360, if not more.

Ergo, taking platform splits and extrapolating for global sales seems unwise.

Also, from memory aligned sales, BO2 sold more than MW2, and was outsold by MW3, so I don't know why MW2 first month numbers would be taken to determine a peak.
 
jayu26 said:
There was a thread here at the end of 2012 in which 95% of people thought that it was MS that was most likely going to make the most powerful next gen console...

Actually it wasn't even "most likely". People were sure of it.
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I never thought this because I was in the boat that thought Ps4 would come out later, since Ps3 was only strong in it's later years (and even passed 360 in worldwide sales). I thought they'd ride that out a bit longer. Probably best they didn't though, as people may have just jumped ship since this was a very long generation and the hardcore wanted a new machine.
 
Mikey Jr. said:
That was back in November.
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… when they said "soon." Look at the shipment numbers Aqua posted earlier in this thread. They were almost assuredly talking about their projected shipments by the end of the year. Of those ~10M shipped by Dec. 31st, probably less than 9M will have sold through by now. Maybe quite a bit less, when you consider how slowly it's moving everywhere that's not the US or UK; other countries are likely sitting on a good bit of unsold stock.

I pulled almost every number out of my arse.
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Yes. :p
 
meanspartan said:
While Xbox One isn't selling poorly, I think they kind of needed to be in Sony's position in sales right about now to silence the voices in that company calling for the Xbox Division to close down.

I really do think this is their last shot at making it substantially profitable, or we don't see another Xbox. They took losses for almost a decade only to have the 360 barely making a profit each year (and that isn't enough when you factor in opportunity cost)
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I think some of that is offset by the success of LIVE. Having that many subscribers to market and sell to, has value and cache. The value proposition of PSN and LIVE is probably worth the pain to many investors / shareholders.
 
WhiskerFrisker said:
Well it's guestimates just like yours. You don't know how much the X1 sold in December besides estimates like "it should have sold" or it "probably sold". So I don't see your point.
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Regardless of the exact numbers and whether I'm right or not, the percentage of the ROTW sales is too large to be called "negligible."
 
GhaleonEB said:
I saw Aqua's list, but thought I'd add the sold-through trend via Sony's public announcements. I feel like I might be missing one, but this is what I could find via a quick search:

1m in first 24 hours

2.1m as of December 1st 2013

4.2m as of December 28th, 2013

5.3m as of February 8th, 2014

7m as of April 6th, 2014

10m as of August 10th, 2014

18.5m as of January 2, 2015
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They announced 6 million soon after the launch in Japan.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=778823
 
Very cool.

This shouldn't be a pissing contest between multinationals, rather we should appreciate the amount of people willing to buy gaming hardware and the expansion of the industry.
 
King_Moc said:
A shame it has nothing to do with great games though.
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Wait so you are saying the PS4 doesn't have great games?


Miles Quaritch said:
Nintendo doesn't care about their fanbase?

Since when?
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I am guessing you never saw the cranky kong announcement? How many times have we heard Reggie tell journalist they are not competing with Sony or MS when it comes to price or hardware?


Moze said:
I can't speak for everybody, but i'm a very happy Nintendo customer. I don't see why you have to attack Nintendo in a thread about PS4 sales.
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How was my comment attacking Nintendo? I was simply stating that they should take note. Right now Sony is hitting home runs with the PS4 since E3. You have to give credit where credit is due.
 
IAmRandom31 said:
It's always fun seeing people talk about NPD as if it is worldwide sales numbers lol.

Sony just said they sold 4.1 million consoles over the holidays alone. MS sold 1 mil or whatever in the US in November. Even with equal numbers in December that still leaves 2 million consoles to get somewhere else. Unfortunately the X1 is dead everywhere except the UK. So they likely got outsold by 1.5 mill or so during the holiday season.
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Right, but Sony didn't start counting those 4.1M until like 11/23, so only a small fraction of those 1.2M Bones were head-to-head with what Sony was counting. So in the six or so weeks Sony was referring to, it's probably more like 4.1M to maybe 1.5M-2M, so a difference of 2M+.
 
Slightly above what I thought it would be but near enough

PS4 is truly doing stellar so far, Sony's next quarterly should be interesting to see shipped

Hmm looking at the offical PR statement on Sony's site, PS4 is now available in "123 countries and regions worldwide"

So 23 more than last PR I believe. Wonder what they consider a region
 
FuturusX said:
I think some of that is offset by the success of LIVE. Having that many subscribers to market and sell to, has value and cache. The value proposition of PSN and LIVE is probably worth the pain to many investors / shareholders.
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Too lazy to look up exact numbers now, but the sum total of Microsoft's Xbox venture since 2001 is still several billion USD in the red. Xbone's launch has increased the deficit. Xbox LIVE profits are nowhere near enough to offset the losses incurred during the past 14 years.
 
Occam said:
Too lazy to look up exact numbers now, but the sum total of Microsoft's Xbox venture since 2001 is still several billion USD in the red. Xbone's launch has increased the deficit. Xbox LIVE profits are nowhere near enough to offset the losses incurred during the past 14 years.
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MS has money to burn. Seriously, they do.

Life is but a game for MS.
 
Occam said:
Too lazy to look up exact numbers now, but the sum total of Microsoft's Xbox venture since 2001 is still several billion USD in the red. Xbone's launch has increased the deficit. Xbox LIVE profits are nowhere near enough to offset the losses they incurred.
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Ya basically they were profitable (a little) in the final few years of the 360's life. Then went into the red again for Xbox One.

Even if they kept the moderate profits of the later 360 years, that isn't why they got into the console business. Plenty of investors I'm sure would rather invest this money elsewhere rather invest this cash elsewhere over shooting for moderate profits at best (hence the opportuinity cost)
 
meanspartan said:
While Xbox One isn't selling poorly, I think they kind of needed to be in Sony's position in sales right about now to silence the voices in that company calling for the Xbox Division to close down.

I really do think this is their last shot at making it substantially profitable, or we don't see another Xbox. They took losses for almost a decade only to have the 360 barely making a profit each year (and that isn't enough when you factor in opportunity cost)
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We should be so lucky. I doubt they'll ever give up though, especially after the success of the 360.
 
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