Sony announces 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles sold WW
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motorised mallard
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Your head is in cloud castles if you think that Xbone has any serious momentum without bundles and with a raised price in january.
Mr. Giggles
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Wow, sony is doing well!! 20 million by Q2 at this rate!
Imagine after bloodborne and price cut! Wooo boy
Imagine after bloodborne and price cut! Wooo boy
They have sold 14.2M in 2014. In 2015 they will most likely reach up to 16, but that is not enough to push them to 40M. They will hit that by the summer of 2016.
Trojan
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Satya Nadella, Microsoft's new CEO (think he's been in role about a year). He's been leading a strong comeback for MS in that time as they focus on cloud services and platform strategy. He has somewhat left the Xbox division alone, but if he feels like it's not adding the value it should to the company's portfolio, he could foreseeable sell the division or repurpose it within the next 5 years. Total speculation at this point, but I would not be shocked to see some drastic changes within the next 5 years.
Amentallica
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I REALLY don't think they got 2 million more consoles out in five weeks to retailers.
In that case, I'll place 40m as the best case scenario and 35m as the minimum.
Nightengale
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They've averaged around 900k a month, excluding the holiday season. And sales should spike in Chinese speaking regions on February, because CNY.
It'll probably hit 20 in February.
sixteen-bit
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The Return of the King
Is it true WiiU is trending behind Dreamcast?
IAmRandom31
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18.5 was my guess for 2014. 23 is my guess for 2015.
Price drop + great software throughout the year + increased momentum in Japan + huge holiday exclusives lined up = massive year for the system
Price drop + great software throughout the year + increased momentum in Japan + huge holiday exclusives lined up = massive year for the system
Welfare
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Still behind it, yes.
shadowsdarknes
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The trend already reversed in the UK.
When you raise the price, sales are going to slow down. Consumers aren't dumb.
Sure we do not know that for sure yet, but almost anyone can hazard a guess that raising the price back to $400 is basically going to kill the momentum of sales.
RespectThySole
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December is much bigger than than any of those early months(Jan-Oct). They had 5 weeks from that time to ship another 2 million. I definitely think it's likely with how high December sales are unless you believe they really overstuffed the channel(by Dec. 3). They most likely got another shipment in for Christmas or shortly after. It's not like they're going to sell 0 consoles in January either.
Based on what we know from US/UK/France. The console ratio elsewhere would have to be much lower than previously thought for them to have not shipped around 12 million. Look at some of my posts from yesterday for more info.
I think they'll announce it when NPDs are released and feel free to come back to this post.
Honestly, the lowest I can see it being is 11.5 million which would still be around my prediction of 12. Just for fun, what would you put it at?
Welfare
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They were a holiday bundle only while supplies lasted. They still have stock left over I guess.
Bitch Pudding
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That sounds more reasonable, although I asume that 35m is the - very - best case scenario. I guess final numbers will be around 30m, because unless the PS4 looses sales momentum there is just no need for a significant global price cut. MS on the other hand will surely lower the One`s price tag on a global scale in 2015, which will result in a hard time for Sony in the important US and UK core markets.
Superman00
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You think they will only sell 1.5M in 3 months WW?
Sony sold over 14M PS4 this year, you expect them to only sell 11.5M in 2015 to reach 30M LTD? With the big games coming out and a potential price cut, there is no way they gonna sell less than 2014.
shadowsdarknes
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Yeah.. Xbox One at 399 with no games is going to be a tough sell.
Huh. At this rate, Xbox may still be competitive in January, considering they'll be clearing Unity stock for the next month or so. Two free games is still an OK bundle, even if it's at $399.
Bitch Pudding
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Not for long, given the fact that Dreamcast was introduced at the end of 1998 (Japan) and canceled at the beginning of 2001.
Chaos2Frozen
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If solid gameplay is the most important part Bayonetta wouldn't be in the troubled sales it is in.
Not realistic look, just characters and settings that are easily accepted by the West.
ArchedThunder
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Yes, but Wii U might pass its LTD because it might be actively on the market longer, not that that is a win or anything.
ethomaz
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I really doubt that.
It was like 5 million before? I guess it is betwee 6-7 million now WW (I won't be surprise if it is close to 8 million).
The gap definitely widen WW... it closed in US only.
WhiskerFrisker
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I am really not a fan of the term "no games" for any system. It is simply not true. Perhaps it doesn't have games you want to play, but it does have games. PS4 will have more first party games released in the first half of 2015 and probably the remainder of the year. But that doesn't negate what the X1 will receive.
Edit: Never mind, I see what you meant. Sorry for the confusion.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Maybe he meant the package itself.
I think he means XB1 at $399 with no bundled games, like the deals they've been running the past couple months.
soul creator
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Pretty sure they just meant bundled games
shadowsdarknes
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Sorry. I was referring to no bundled games.
The AC Unity bundle will be gone soon.
WhiskerFrisker
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Well in that case, I stand corrected.
It's my bad for misunderstanding you. Sorry.
Bitch Pudding
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Not "only". "At least" is what I suggest. They sold around 2m PS4s in the first quarter of 2014. Even with The Order and Bloodborne around the corner I do not see a sigificant higher performance this year, as the last quarter of 2014 was dominated by holiday discounts all over the place.
Yes. I do. Because I learned not to include hypothetical price drops in my calculations, only the status quo and given external effects (I actually earn my money with stuff like that, but given estimations of other "experts" like Mr. Pachter show that this does not mean my estimations are any better than yours
).Amentallica
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The availability of more games one year later could certainly compel more people to purchase consoles than the year before.
Superman00
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Not "only". "At least" is what I suggest. They sold around 2m PS4s in the first quarter of 2014. Even with The Order and Bloodborne around the corner I do not see a sigificant higher performance this year, as the last quarter of 2014 was dominated by holiday discounts all over the place.
Yes. I do. Because I learned not to include hypothetical price drops in my calculations, only the status quo and given external effects (I actually earn my money with stuff like that, but given estimations of other "experts" like Mr. Pachter show that this does not mean my estimations are any better than yours
Even without a price drop, there is no way they will only sell 11.5M this year. Big games will boost sales. Just look at what the Destiny bundle did for the PS4.
Dargor
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Well, I think congratulations are due.
With the games that are already promised for 2015, I think there will be even more PS4s solds than in 2014 and I think its safe to expect some announcements throughout the year, that, even though they'll only arrive at 2016, at the earliest, they'll still increase the good will of the buyers and push the sales even further.
So yeah, congratulations Sony, you guys totally deserved such numbers. Having a great time with my own PS4, here on my end lol.
With the games that are already promised for 2015, I think there will be even more PS4s solds than in 2014 and I think its safe to expect some announcements throughout the year, that, even though they'll only arrive at 2016, at the earliest, they'll still increase the good will of the buyers and push the sales even further.
So yeah, congratulations Sony, you guys totally deserved such numbers. Having a great time with my own PS4, here on my end lol.
Bitch Pudding
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Look, I am totally with you that 20m in March is very, very likely. But I do not see that Bloodborne or The Order will be able to move a significant number of additional consoles. And all other games have already been available since November.
Besides, the One's price tag is not the only one back on pre-holiday level. The PS4 was also heavily discounted (due to freebies) but not in the year before. That means that PS4 sales were also pressed forward, resulting in lower sales after the discount. Put everything together and you are up to 2m in Q1 2015.
Amentallica
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The reason I don't follow that line of thinking is because Microsoft had said in November that they were "shortly" selling 10 million units to retailers. On December 3rd, don't you think they would have said the same thing but with a larger number, such as the one you're suggesting of two million more consoles which would put it at 12 million, going something like "shortly selling into retailers 12 million units"? They instead provided the solid number of 10 million units.
Amentallica
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I don't count on exclusives to push systems to their greatest potential sales. I rely on third party games which are mightily available on the PS4.
Edit: Sorry about the double post.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Last I heard it was.
And that's w/ DC being discontinued.
It's shameful, really. Sega's revenge and last laugh from beyond the grave x3.
If Sony knows that to be the case then they'll cut the price just to prevent that scenario from playing out.
In fact, I think Sony will cut their price first, so MS will be forced to go lower than they'd like just to be "cheaper", and that would cut into 360 sales significantly.
$299 PS4 by September. $249 XBO by November.
NowhereFaded
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Go Sony!
XB1 didn't get a price cut in the UK tho ... and PS4 beat it in December.
Never underestimate the power of PlayStation.
EventHorizon
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I don't see how Microsoft could sell Xbox. The console is tied too tightly to the company. The Xbox OS is Windows. If Microsoft did sell it they'd still have to be the ones supporting it. The most I could see them doing is moving their gaming focus back to the PC with an Xbox App Store while marketing the console more as a PC appliance. That way they get to keep the lucrative Xbox Live subscriptions and offer deals like being able to buy a game once and to play it on both the PC and console. That also fits with their corporate culture to leverage an advantage in one part of the company to prop up another.
Amentallica
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What?
Jimmyfenix
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Peter Moore is probably loving this