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[Rei_Toei]

all the advice i've gotten is to ask them out within 3-5 messages, any less is too soon, any more and she will lose interest. while that might work for some, i think it's best to feel it out and talk to them first. i know i talk way too much and it seems to kill attraction.

I get the idea behind ask them sooner then later. Too long of a build-up kills interest for sure. Then again I was pretty confident that worst case scenario my dates would be at least a fun conversation for an evening and that's how all of them turned out. So I guess there's just a bit more risk of having less of a connection if you haven't talked as much. Then again I'm not too hot on who I've met so far so nothing to lose .

 

[bcl0328]

I get the idea behind ask them sooner then later. Too long of a build-up kills interest for sure. Then again I was pretty confident that worst case scenario my dates would be at least a fun conversation for an evening and that's how all of them turned out. So I guess there's just a bit more risk of having less of a connection if you haven't talked as much. Then again I'm not too hot on who I've met so far so nothing to lose .

i'm wondering if i waited too long to ask this girl i talked to yesterday on okcupid. we only sent like 20 messages, but she was the initiator so i feel like she's interested. she just stopped responding. hope she was just busy =\

 

[Mully]

So I've been on two dates with this woman. Things have gone well, but we haven't kissed yet, and while we've spoken briefly a few times since the last date, I haven't seen her in nearly a month.

She's been traveling a lot the past few weeks. She told me she would be going on these trips on our first date. She also mentioned that she really wanted to take me to her school's dance, meet her co-workers, and go out again, but I'm getting the vibe that maybe she's not that into me.

In particular, the last text conversation we had seemed odd. Essentially I asked her when the next time she would be free, and she said she's taking a class from 9AM - 11PM all this week.

I know she's in a very intensive program, but this doesn't make any sense. No class is that long. It's weird.

Do I silently move on? Do I ask her if I did something wrong?

I'm inclined to do the former since nothing really has happened between us yet, but she's also my type. Near 100% my type and I can't shake the excited vibes I get from her when we were with each other in person, but the mixed signals are more than enough of a sign that this'll likely go nowhere.

 

[electricshake]

Meeting the bf's parents tonight! Going out for dinner. Bit nervous but sure it'll be fine. He'll prob meet mine within the next couple of weeks too. This plus our hol means it's getting serious! Which is nice.

 

[Septimius]

So I've been on two dates with this woman. Things have gone well, but we haven't kissed yet, and while we've spoken briefly a few times since the last date, I haven't seen her in nearly a month.

She's been traveling a lot the past few weeks. She told me she would be going on these trips on our first date. She also mentioned that she really wanted to take me to her school's dance, meet her co-workers, and go out again, but I'm getting the vibe that maybe she's not that into me.

In particular, the last text conversation we had seemed odd. Essentially I asked her when the next time she would be free, and she said she's taking a class from 9AM - 11PM all this week.

I know she's in a very intensive program, but this doesn't make any sense. No class is that long. It's weird.

Do I silently move on? Do I ask her if I did something wrong?

I'm inclined to do the former since nothing really has happened between us yet, but she's also my type. Near 100% my type and I can't shake the excited vibes I get from her when we were with each other in person, but the mixed signals are more than enough of a sign that this'll likely go nowhere.

Well, you've gotta remember that one thing anyone does that wants to be with someone, is find time. The class thing might absolutely be true, or she might mean that she'll be studying or in school for so long. I have a friend that has a full course load, and practices piano for eight hours per day, so it's possible. But, she'll make time if she wants to. It might be that you're reading things right, or it might be that she's actually really busy these days. Just let it settle itself for a while, see what happens, then decide.

Meeting the bf's parents tonight! Going out for dinner. Bit nervous but sure it'll be fine. He'll prob meet mine within the next couple of weeks too. This plus our hol means it's getting serious! Which is nice.

That's amazing to hear, electric! I haven't been around for a while, but I'm guessing quite some things are different from last time I saw you post. Excited to see that!

 

[electricshake]

That's amazing to hear, electric! I haven't been around for a while, but I'm guessing quite some things are different from last time I saw you post. Excited to see that!

Thanks yeh things are going really well! Met on OKC mid November so it's all moving quite quickly (for me, at least) but I'm really happy.

 

[Mully]

Well, you've gotta remember that one thing anyone does that wants to be with someone, is find time. The class thing might absolutely be true, or she might mean that she'll be studying or in school for so long. I have a friend that has a full course load, and practices piano for eight hours per day, so it's possible. But, she'll make time if she wants to. It might be that you're reading things right, or it might be that she's actually really busy these days. Just let it settle itself for a while, see what happens, then decide.

Should I let her message me? I've initiated every time since the last time we saw each other.

 

[Septimius]

Thanks yeh things are going really well! Met on OKC mid November so it's all moving quite quickly (for me, at least) but I'm really happy.

Sweet!

Should I let her message me? I've initiated every time since the last time we saw each other.

Yeah, if you feel you've made contact, just lean back a bit. Maybe she'll decide to text you. Maybe she won't. That way you'll get an honest answer pretty quickly.

 

[Blunoise]

man i just got a match the other day, she was cute and she is a marvel fan i told her i like Dc better and than she said she would forgive me because i was cute lol, then we talked a little. then i message her two days ago and asked her out to eat and no response, its been two days. so now i have two unanswered messages. i got excited for nothing i guess

 

[grap3fruitman]

Didn't get a chance to reply to the last few people but the TLDR version is I have no friends and basically no real experience talking to women.

Anyway, this girl wants to do something tonight and keeps asking me what and I have no idea and I'm panicking and I just want to cancel altogether. This is way too stressful and there's no chance it'll go well anyway.

 

[Tony Iommi]

Didn't get a chance to reply to the last few people but the TLDR version is I have no friends and basically no real experience talking to women.

Anyway, this girl wants to do something tonight and keeps asking me what and I have no idea and I'm panicking and I just want to cancel altogether. This is way too stressful and there's no chance it'll go well anyway.

Just go to a bar and get a couple of beers. And by bar, I mean a small bar/pub... not the Applebee's bar.

You don't have to plan anything too perfectly. Just tell her: Let's go and get a beer at the bar/pub.

Don't worry about the topics of conversation or anything. Just go. The conversation will flow naturally.

 

[Flying Toaster]

Didn't get a chance to reply to the last few people but the TLDR version is I have no friends and basically no real experience talking to women.

Anyway, this girl wants to do something tonight and keeps asking me what and I have no idea and I'm panicking and I just want to cancel altogether. This is way too stressful and there's no chance it'll go well anyway.

What do you like to do?

Don't give me some answer about your boring, or you don't know. There has to be something you find interesting...

Incorporate that interesting or an aspect of it into your "Something to do tonight"

Honestly I think the best advice I can give to you, and this is from someone that had shit self esteem in the past so take it how you will. Until you stop thinking about all the negatives in your life and just live people are going to react to you negatively. I am not even going to suggest there are silver linings in everything. Just live life. You say you do not have friends and no experience talking to women... I say bullshit.

You are a member of NeoGAF. We might not be friends, but you are communicating with a community of people that have similar interests. You are seeking advice from strangers so since you are reaching out to a community of people you are already establishing a sense of talking to people. Focus on what you do know. Expand your knowledge through experiences with people and use said knowledge to build a tool-set that will aid you in your goals of finding companionship.

Sometimes you have to work on yourself before you put yourself out there into the world for others. If you really do truly feel that you are socially awkward and you have no friends why don't we focus on those aspects of your life? You don't have to ignore the opposite sex but perhaps you should put whatever emphasis you have on dating or finding a girlfriend on the back burner and focus on other areas of your life which will also help you in the long run achieve your ultimate goal of finding companionship.

 

[stn]

Didn't get a chance to reply to the last few people but the TLDR version is I have no friends and basically no real experience talking to women.

Anyway, this girl wants to do something tonight and keeps asking me what and I have no idea and I'm panicking and I just want to cancel altogether. This is way too stressful and there's no chance it'll go well anyway.

You worry a lot about meaningless stuff, like where to go and what to do. Just go to a nice bar or nice cafe, have some drinks, and talk! Crack some jokes, that kind of stuff. You'll be fine, dude.

 

[Christberg]

Didn't get a chance to reply to the last few people but the TLDR version is I have no friends and basically no real experience talking to women.

Anyway, this girl wants to do something tonight and keeps asking me what and I have no idea and I'm panicking and I just want to cancel altogether. This is way too stressful and there's no chance it'll go well anyway.

It's all about having a positive mental attitude. When you get these kind of feelings, you have to look in the mirror and give your insecurities a giant middle finger. Buy some new clothes and get a new haircut or something.

This is easy. Just pick somewhere that's neutral and quiet enough that you can talk. If you have a connection you'll find that the lizard brain takes over and you'll be flirting before you even realize it's happening. If it doesn't work, don't stress about it and keep at it. Dating is about putting in the work, just like getting a college degree or finding a job.

 

[grap3fruitman]

You worry a lot about meaningless stuff, like where to go and what to do.

Pretty sure those are important details for a date. But yeah, probably gonna flake on this girl. 😞

 

[Flying Toaster]

Pretty sure those are important details for a date. But yeah, probably gonna flake on this girl. 😞

You should not flake at all...

A girl shows interest in you by asking you to go do something... Go do something.

 

[depths20XX]

Pretty sure those are important details for a date. But yeah, probably gonna flake on this girl. ��

You're just trying to get to know the girl more and talk on the first date. Bar, coffee, or meal is all you need to do. Keep it simple.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Pretty sure those are important details for a date. But yeah, probably gonna flake on this girl. 😞

Pick out a nearby bar and drink a beer. That is all there is to is. Really, she doesn't expect some big planned out evening or something. Don't complicate things for yourself, she is there for you, not the location.

 

[Big Papa Husker]

Pretty sure those are important details for a date. But yeah, probably gonna flake on this girl. 😞

Don't flake! Go to a bar or something for drinks. Or you could just go to a coffee shop and get coffee.

 

[stn]

Pretty sure those are important details for a date. But yeah, probably gonna flake on this girl. 😞

What you do is not important, its how you do it and who you do it with. Girl wants to go out with you, you're stressing because you don't know what to do for the date. You want to flake because of it.

Hint:

Spoiler

If she likes you she'll be okay with anything you do.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Pretty sure those are important details for a date. But yeah, probably gonna flake on this girl. 😞

So you complain you can't get girls, you get someone interested and now you're going to blow her off? The fuck?

It's not hard for a first date, doing things with no set pace and ability to talk are usually best but do something you're comfortable with. You asked how you get better at talking to women, you do so by actually taking to them not blowing them off.

Edit: Stn is completely right. I've never had a girl complain about what we did. They're going to get to know you. Be assertive and pick something you'd want to do. There's a reason there's no set thing for first dates.

 

[grap3fruitman]

Yeah, I'm doing the equivalent of curling up into a ball. I'm scared. I'm so scared. I didn't respond to her texts last night and I haven't heard from her today. I think that's a good sign and she doesn't want to see me now so I'm off the hook.

 

[Granadier]

grap3, you should take some time to mature yourself before attempting to date again.

 

[Brinbe]

Dude...

 

[Flying Toaster]

grap3, you should take some time to mature yourself before attempting to date again.

Great advice.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Man, really? Just do it and go. What do you have to lose? Nothing, that's what.

 

[Coda]

You meet the funniest people at bars sometimes.

I went the other night to a local hip bar and met a dude who has a couple of mutual friends on facebook and we talked about music and other stuff. Halfway through conversation he starts showing me a couple friends of his wife who are attractive and single. It was really funny but awesome because I've been girlfriend less for over a year now.

Long story short he's trying to hook me up with this seemingly rad tattooed lady who is quite gorgeous honestly and is going to be at his b-day party in a couple weeks. He was having me pose for a picture at the bar to send to her. He wrote that he met and interesting fellow (me) for her via text message. I'm pretty pumped but I'm not trying to think about it much.

The lesson to take away is that you never know who you may meet out in the world so if you are slumpin' try to do things as most as possible. Right now it's freezing here so I'll be homebodying it up for a bit haha.

 

[dralla]

Didn't get a chance to reply to the last few people but the TLDR version is I have no friends and basically no real experience talking to women.

Anyway, this girl wants to do something tonight and keeps asking me what and I have no idea and I'm panicking and I just want to cancel altogether. This is way too stressful and there's no chance it'll go well anyway.

Barnes and Noble makes a good first date as they have a Starbucks in them now a days, very casual and low pressure.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Yeah, I'm doing the equivalent of curling up into a ball. I'm scared. I'm so scared. I didn't respond to her texts last night and I haven't heard from her today. I think that's a good sign and she doesn't want to see me now so I'm off the hook.

SMFH

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Yeah, I'm doing the equivalent of curling up into a ball. I'm scared. I'm so scared. I didn't respond to her texts last night and I haven't heard from her today. I think that's a good sign and she doesn't want to see me now so I'm off the hook.

That...ain't cool man. C'mon son, how old are you? (genuine question)

 

[grap3fruitman]

I don't get it. How come this isn't a source of distress for the rest of you guys?

C'mon son, how old are you? (genuine question)

27.

 

[ClosingADoor]

I don't get it. How come this isn't a source of distress for the rest of you guys?.

Because meeting new people is fun. And there are drinks to take care of the nerves

 

[Tony Iommi]

I don't get it. How come this isn't a source of distress for the rest of you guys?


27.

Dude... the girl is just a person. A regular, common, human being. She is not a deity of something. Just send her a message: "Sorry I didn't send you a message before... I was kinda busy, but, do you want to grab a beer tonight?".

Just copy/paste that line and send it to her and tell us her response.

You don't need to plan one of those unrealistic lame dates like in the movies.

 

[Flying Toaster]

Dude... the girl is just a person. A regular, common, human being. She is not a deity of something. Just send her a message: "Sorry I didn't send you a message before... I was kinda busy, but, do you want to grab a beer tonight?".

Just copy/paste that line and send it to her and tell us her response.

You don't need to plan one of those unrealistic lame dates like in the movies.

This is great advice as well... You know I am going back and reading your past post history. I think you really need to focus on yourself. Then look at dating. It might be for the best because once you go on a few dates whomever you are with is going to start to see the negativity and unfortunately that is not an attractive quality.

 

[turtle553]

I don't get it. How come this isn't a source of distress for the rest of you guys?

Because none of it matters. We're all going to die someday and the world will keep turning. No reason to let little things work you up so much. Just remember that girls have anxiety also.

 

[grap3fruitman]

Because meeting new people is fun. And there are drinks to take care of the nerves

It's not fun, it's ridicuously stressful.

Dude... the girl is just a person. A regular, common, human being. She is not a deity of something.

Yes, she's a normal person. I am not. She's far enough above me that she may as well be a deity. Anyway, she texted me just now about how excited she was for tonight and I reponsded with "Really? I'm having an anxiety attack." It's been 20 minutes and I haven't heard back. I think I've officially scared her off. I'm both relieved and disappointed. I actually have some stuff in common with her (gaming) and I'm still freaking out. I genuinely don't understand how everyone else does this.

This is great advice as well... You know I am going back and reading your past post history. I think you really need to focus on yourself. Then look at dating. It might be for the best because once you go on a few dates whomever you are with is going to start to see the negativity and unfortunately that is not an attractive quality.

That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

 

[Tony Iommi]

It's not fun, it's ridicuously stressful.


Yes, she's a normal person. I am not. She's far enough above me that she may as well be a deity. Anyway, she texted me just now about how excited she was for tonight and I reponsded with "Really? I'm having an anxiety attack." It's been 20 minutes and I haven't heard back. I think I've officially scared her off. I'm both relieved and disappointed. I actually have some stuff in common with her (gaming) and I'm still freaking out. I genuinely don't understand how everyone else does this.


That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

Hey, Einstein! She is on your side!

What the fuck are you doing? She just told you she is excited about seeing you tonight. Why are you acting like this?

And she is not far above yourself... otherwise, she wouldn't be excited to see you.

 

[Flying Toaster]

It's not fun, it's ridicuously stressful.


Yes, she's a normal person. I am not. She's far enough above me that she may as well be a deity. Anyway, she texted me just now about how excited she was for tonight and I reponsded with "Really? I'm having an anxiety attack." It's been 20 minutes and I haven't heard back. I think I've officially scared her off. I'm both relieved and disappointed. I actually have some stuff in common with her (gaming) and I'm still freaking out. I genuinely don't understand how everyone else does this.


That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

Alright at this point you are dealing with anxiety issues and your anti social. I won't say that those are not things to be worried about they are. So i am going to attempt to be constructive with this situation.

1) Try... try... try to hang out with her. You said she likes video games, you like video games there is your common thread.

2) Do not attempt to make this more than just hanging out with someone. Ignore the fact that she is a girl, ignore the fact that she is interested in you. At this point you are going to take this as a time to hang out and try to get over or at least manage your anxiety.

3) Seek professional help. A life coach, hell I don't know and I am not the best person to suggest what to do or who to seek but you need to tackle the anxiety, and anti social feelings you have.

4) All of us might get frustrated or sound short with you. Do not take it personally. Sometimes it is hard to accept that when someone asks for advice the advice that is given is not going to be listened to.

You honestly want something in life, you are in the right place asking the right questions. Take a step back analyze exactly what you think is wrong with you, start to think what you have to offer and with the help and advice from people on GAF as well as perhaps some professional help you will start to build the tools you need to tackle the goals you have.

 

[stn]

That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

Please... not this again. Please.

Now that you're done running away from the soul-consuming deity known as the woman, can you go make a thread asking if other GAF'ers want to meetup? I recommended the same thing to another poster and he did it. Hell, I'll do it for you. Just tell me again where you live and how far you're willing to travel. Dating is not for you, you need to just make some friends.

 

[Tony Iommi]

It's not fun, it's ridicuously stressful.


Yes, she's a normal person. I am not. She's far enough above me that she may as well be a deity. Anyway, she texted me just now about how excited she was for tonight and I reponsded with "Really? I'm having an anxiety attack." It's been 20 minutes and I haven't heard back. I think I've officially scared her off. I'm both relieved and disappointed. I actually have some stuff in common with her (gaming) and I'm still freaking out. I genuinely don't understand how everyone else does this.


That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

If you want us to tell you exactly what to do (which you shouldn't), then let's make some sort of experiment. But you have to agree and actually do what we tell you.

For example... tell us exactly what were the last messages you guys exchanged. Then I will tell you what to say and so on.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Please... not this again. Please.

Now that you're done running away from the soul-consuming deity known as the woman, can you go make a thread asking if other GAF'ers want to meetup? I recommended the same thing to another poster and he did it. Hell, I'll do it for you. Just tell me again where you live and how far you're willing to travel. Dating is not for you, you need to just make some friends.

I was waiting for it to come full circle again. I was really hoping it wouldn't but here we are.

It's not fun, it's ridicuously stressful.


Yes, she's a normal person. I am not. She's far enough above me that she may as well be a deity. Anyway, she texted me just now about how excited she was for tonight and I reponsded with "Really? I'm having an anxiety attack." It's been 20 minutes and I haven't heard back. I think I've officially scared her off. I'm both relieved and disappointed. I actually have some stuff in common with her (gaming) and I'm still freaking out. I genuinely don't understand how everyone else does this.


That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

God fucking dammit. You get advice and this is what you tell her? You going to blame this on GAF again? Not enough face palms in the world for what you did.

 

[ClosingADoor]

It's not fun, it's ridicuously stressful.

I understand very well that you get nervous about it (I used to be too and still am sometimes). But if you are that stressful about meeting someone... You need to work on those issues separately first, or you can go and experience for yourself that there is nothing to be stressful about.

Yes, she's a normal person. I am not. She's far enough above me that she may as well be a deity. Anyway, she texted me just now about how excited she was for tonight and I reponsded with "Really? I'm having an anxiety attack." It's been 20 minutes and I haven't heard back. I think I've officially scared her off. I'm both relieved and disappointed. I actually have some stuff in common with her (gaming) and I'm still freaking out. I genuinely don't understand how everyone else does this.

She is not better then you. People are people. Everyone has their problems, issues and downsides. You are not the only one. But I'm afraid nothing anyone will tell you here is going to help you with that.

That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

For this there is no one solution. Every person is different. My life is good for me. If someone else lives like this, they might be miserable. There are some points you might work on: diet, exercise, sleep well, have a job that you enjoy. But there is no set way to get about it.

Have you tried getting professional help to get over your issues? I have no experience with that, but it might be the thing you need. An internet forum can give you some advice and we all mean well, but maybe you need someone in real life to guide you through things.

Honestly, you have posted here for years it seems and are going in circles. I don't really know what you expect us to tell you, what we haven't told you already.

 

[CatPee]

That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

Cripes, it shouldn't be hard to figure out that "work on yourself" is just self-improvement, whether that be in the form of new hobbies, having stuff you're passionate about, being knowledgeable about a field, being comfortable with yourself, etc. You know full well that "no one elaborates" is a lie, because plenty of people have suggested the exact same things I just listed to you and others for the history of the dating-age threads. It's your own life, so live it. No one else is gonna do it for you.

Yes, she's a normal person. I am not. She's far enough above me that she may as well be a deity.

Don't do this. This is like putting the pussy on the pedestal to the most extreme degree. Every single other person's lives are just as mundane as yours, and they're often just as clueless about life as you are too. That's the reality that you need to accept.

 

[Tony Iommi]

Is this you?

Because if you are, I really don't know why do you have low self esteem. You are attractive.

 

[beat]

Why don't you order dessert or do you go elsewhere for it?

I believe the dessert-elsewhere idea is that it gives your date an out if they don't think this date is going anywhere, and conversely if they do want to have dessert, it shows they're at least a little into you.

What types of things do you talk about during a date?

You want to share who you each are. Find out what she's interested in, share what you're interested in.

 

[beat]

I think I've officially scared her off. I'm both relieved and disappointed. I actually have some stuff in common with her (gaming) and I'm still freaking out. I genuinely don't understand how everyone else does this.

I think we identify moments of self-sabotage that indicate patterns of self-sabotage and then consciously work on changing those behaviors.

Doing X leads to undesirable result Y ==> DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN X.

Slightly more concretely, if there's something you're slightly anxious about, do it anyways. Falling flat on your face really isn't that bad, and in this case the girl was excited to go out with you anyways, you weren't even headed for failure. But in the general case, you'll either succeed or find out that failure wasn't as bad as you were anxious about.

If your anxiety is major, then maybe you need professional help. That is 100% not an insult, it's just... an internet forum can't fix things, esp not after the third or fourth time we've all said the exact same thing and you won't change. Your current path isn't making you happy but yet you won't change just cause we ask you to, so...

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

That's not great advice because it doesn't tell me what to do exactly. "Work on yourself." I have no idea what that entails. I've heard it a thousand times and no one ever elaborates.

I see you're up to your old tricks again. People have tried to help you time and again in these treads, and you always fall back on this, despite the fact that I've seen others (and I myself) have given you plenty of solid advice in the past.

You keep putting up road blocks for yourself. "No one ever elaborates," "I can't meet a girl," "I've met a girl, but I can't go out with her," etc., etc. You're your own worst enemy when it comes to being social and dating.

Looks, we all get nervous before a date or when meeting someone new. That anxiety is normal. But you still man-up and go for it, because if you don't, you'll never meet someone. Even if this one doesn't work out, at least you get valuable experience for the next time.

It is time you stop making excuses and start taking responsibility.

 

[Zing]

Started talking to another girl from POF. We talked on phone for

Spoiler

six hours

last night. I'm tired as hell today.

 

[Rich!]

I had my second proper POF date the other night.

She was absolutely sex mad. Amazing. An entire night, took me a day to recover.

 

[Blunoise]

I see you're up to your old tricks again. People have tried to help you time and again in these treads, and you always fall back on this, despite the fact that I've seen others (and I myself) have given you plenty of solid advice in the past.

You keep putting up road blocks for yourself. "No one ever elaborates," "I can't meet a girl," "I've met a girl, but I can't go out with her," etc., etc. You're your own worst enemy when it comes to being social and dating.

Looks, we all get nervous before a date or when meeting someone new. That anxiety is normal. But you still man-up and go for it, because if you don't, you'll never meet someone. Even if this one doesn't work out, at least you get valuable experience for the next time.

It is time you stop making excuses and start taking responsibility.

well mine issue us atleast getting somebody interested or have a date, I really feel like iam no match for anyone now a days because iam either getting rejected