NCAA restores Paterno's vacated wins

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Anytime you can let an entire town and educational institution get away with enabling a serial child molester, you have to do it!
 
We as a society decided we care more about college football than we do about child molestation. That's basically it.
 
Honestly, I never understood why they did that in the first place. It's not like they were doping, it's not connected to how they played at all. And punishing keeping quiet about child rape by vacating wins is comically disgusting in its ridiculousness.
 
USCs wins were vacated due to agents trying to help student athletes with career placement. They are never getting those back.

PSU is going to get their wins back after one of the worst child raping scandal to ever hit a university.

Ok...
 
Volimar said:
Honestly, I never understood why they did that in the first place. It's not like they were doping, it's not connected to how they played at all. And punishing keeping quiet about child rape by vacating wins is comically disgusting in its ridiculousness.
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You don't think covering up that they were harboring a child rapist helped them avoid headlines that could potentially hurt recruiting/attendance/profits?
 
From one standpoint, there was absolutely no competitive issue, no ineligble players, no actual legit reason for the wins to be vacated except to piss off Penn State.

On the other hand, the amount of backtracking the NCAA has done on Penn State's punishment is a complete shame.
 
Volimar said:
Honestly, I never understood why they did that in the first place. It's not like they were doping, it's not connected to how they played at all. And punishing keeping quiet about child rape by vacating wins is comically disgusting in its ridiculousness.
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How do you figure?

They pretty much vacate wins if you sign an autograph for someone at the college level. Pretty sure rape is next in line, right below getting a car.
 
Volimar said:
Honestly, I never understood why they did that in the first place. It's not like they were doping, it's not connected to how they played at all. And punishing keeping quiet about child rape by vacating wins is comically disgusting in its ridiculousness.
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So why do you think Paterno kept quiet about a child rapist?
 
hodayathink said:
From one standpoint, there was absolutely no competitive issue, no ineligble players, no actual legit reason for the wins to be vacated except to piss off Penn State.

On the other hand, the amount of backtracking the NCAA has done on Penn State's punishment is a complete shame.
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cdyhybrid said:
You don't think covering up that they were harboring a child rapist helped them avoid headlines that could potentially hurt recruiting/attendance/profits?
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hodayathink said:
From one standpoint, there was absolutely no competitive issue, no ineligble players, no actual legit reason for the wins to be vacated except to piss off Penn State.

On the other hand, the amount of backtracking the NCAA has done on Penn State's punishment is a complete shame.
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No competitive issue other than coaches winning games when they should have been in prison.
 
AlteredBeast said:
USCs wins were vacated due to agents trying to help student athletes with career placement. They are never getting those back.

PSU is going to get their wins back after one of the worst child raping scandal to ever hit a university.

Ok...
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Alabama had to vacate wins because some players sold back too many textbooks.
 
cdyhybrid said:
You don't think covering up that they were harboring a child rapist helped them avoid headlines that could potentially hurt recruiting/attendance/profits?
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If they hadn't covered it up, I don't think it would have been anywhere near as much of a black eye for the program. If Paterno had acted appropriately, he would have been framed as even more of a hero. Covering it up hurt the program a lot more, and people still worship the guy. But most of all, I find it to be much too shallow a punishment for the severity of what happened. Apparently it meant enough the PSU is trying to get the wins restored though, so what do I know?
 
Volimar said:
If they hadn't covered it up, I don't think it would have been anywhere near as much of a black eye for the program. If Paterno had acted appropriately, he would have been framed as even more of a hero. Covering it up hurt the program a lot more, and people still worship the guy. But most of all, I find it to be much too shallow a punishment for the severity of what happened. Apparently it meant enough the PSU is trying to get the wins restored though, so what do I know?
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You're right, if they had booted Sandusky's ass out and handed him over to police, they would have looked a lot better.

But they didn't.
 
Be careful on Twitter with this. I got into it before with a Penn State truther and it was not good. Basically the idea was that the Freeh Report was completely partisan, Freeh was a fraud and the NCAA forced PSU to accept it or risk the death penalty.

There's no proof of this, by the way. I just gave up when they said that they'd absolutely let their kids near Sandusky because they don't believe JoePa would be wrong.
 
Serious question: Has the amount of applications to Penn State declined at all since that whole event?

I don't know why anyone would attend that freaking school anymore. -_-
 
I always forget this is a thing because I don't watch college sports. Punishing a school by attempting to erase history is the stupidest idea for a punishment ever.
 
And a largely insufferable fanbase is going to be even more so if they do this.

USC got worse for paying Reggie fucking Bush than Penn St. will have gotten for harboring a serial pedophile.

NCAA is a fucking joke
 
JNA said:
Serious question: Has the amount of applications to Penn State declined at all since that whole event?

I don't know why anyone would attend that freaking school anymore. -_-
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People really don't understand the hero worship that winning coaches garner. They'll tell themselves almost anything to preserve their hero.
 
I'm a Penn State alum, and this was a complicated situation. Lots of reductionist and ignorant commentary here. The Freeh report had a lot of issues.

Besides, this ordeal basically killed Paterno.

I'm in no way minimizing how monstrous Sandusky is/was. As for McQueary, I crossed paths with him a time or two while attending PSU and he's basically a big dumb meathead. It is what it is from that standpoint.

Inb4 I'm called a child rape enabler.
 
prag16 said:
I'm a Penn State alum, and this was a complicated situation. Lots of reductionist and ignorant commentary here. The Freeh report had a lot of issues.

Besides, this ordeal basically killed Paterno.

I'm in no way minimizing how monstrous Sandusky is/was. As for McQueary, I crossed paths with him a time or two while attending PSU and he's basically a big dumb meathead. It is what it is from that standpoint.

Inb4 I'm called a child rape enabler.
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AlteredBeast said:
USCs wins were vacated due to agents trying to help student athletes with career placement. They are never getting those back.

PSU is going to get their wins back after one of the worst child raping scandal to ever hit a university.

Ok...
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Not only that but USC lost 30 scholarships over 3 years. Penn State was going to only lose 40 scholarships over 4 years but OFC they got their punishment reduced. That scholarship loses really hurt a program.
 
AnAnole said:
Paterno is trash, but vacating wins for anything other than cheating is the stupidest idea ever.
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He cheated by covering up child rape, allowing him to continue coaching and recruiting players. How is it a stupid idea to take away the wins he "earned" by doing that?
 
Something tells me this was the plan all along. PSU takes the L until public outcry boils over and everything gets erased like it never happened.
 
Branduil said:
He cheated by covering up child rape, allowing him to continue coaching and recruiting players. How is it a stupid idea to take away the wins he "earned" by doing that?
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To me it just seems petty and unfitting. Like punishing a child rapist by taking his bowling trophy.
 
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