Akon: 'America was never built for Black people'

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The Senegalese-American recording artist talks frankly about US race relations, "rebranding" Africa, and his music.
Senegalese-American artist Akon is a five-time Grammy nominee who has sold over 35 million records worldwide, and has collaborated with some of the biggest names in popular music, such as Michael Jackson, Snoop Dogg, Lady Gaga and David Guetta.

The musician, songwriter and producer, who was born in the US but spent much of his childhood in Senegal, is also an activist and a philanthropist - and he has turned his sights on helping Africa.

His current ambitious project, "Akon Lighting Africa," is working to bring solar-powered electricity to Africans in 49 countries by the end of 2020.

Akon is also an ambassador for the non-profit organisation Peace One Day. Last year, he and actor Jude Law brought their celebrity power to Goma to a concert to promote peace in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

But Akon has also caused controversy through his performance style and his lyrics.

Akon talks to Al Jazeera about running his musical career as a business; his projects - both philanthropic and artistic; singing songs for peace and whether he thinks it can really make an impact; and being an African in the US.

The artist was born in Missouri, the US state where protests against police brutality targeting African-Americans erupted after the killing of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson last year.

On Talk to Al Jazeera, Akon shares his views on race relations in the US and speaks frankly about why he thinks African-Americans should understand Africa better.

He says: "Pick a project in New York, for instance: that's a five-star hotel compared to the environment I came up in…. They actually get money from the government, there actually are programmes that help the impoverished and the poor, and you get food stamps. I mean, they have it good compared to Africa...

"There's a huge difference in how the government allocates funds for the poor in Africa, the environment is not even left and right. If these groups were to be taken from the environment where they are now to the same 'equal' environment in Africa, they would be crying to come back to America.”

"How many African-Americans do you know actually consider Africa as a vacation spot? Not one... Even just for knowledge, just to know where they came from, just to get an idea of what that is; there is so much fear instilled in them that they wouldn't even want to go there to visit. You mention Africa, they start shaking."
Hopefully AlJazeera will put the entire interview online.
Edit: Found the excerpt:
Al Jazeera: You know, you once told the Source magazine that 'Black people in the US can nag all they want how the system is against black people, but if they saw how other people lived in Africa, they would see how blessed they really are.'

Do you still believe this today, when you see unarmed black teenagers being killed by the police, when you see protests in St Louis, Missouri, where you lived for a long time, when you see people taking to the streets in Atlanta, New York, to denounce police brutality against young African-American men? Do you think the system really is for these people?

Akon: Well, the system was never for them.

Al Jazeera: So, what made you say this to Source magazine?

When I said that, I was talking about the environment in where they live. And the rights they actually have. And the blessing they do, you know, have actual access to. In Africa, the way I grew up, let's just pick a project in New York, for instance; that's a 5-star hotel compared to the environment I came up in.

Like, if they see how they live, they actually get money from the government, there actually are programmes that help the impoverished and the poor, and you get food stamps. I mean, they have it good, compared to Africa.

There's a huge difference in how the government allocates funds for the poor in Africa; the environment is not even left and right. If these groups were to be taken from the environment where they are now to the same 'equal' environment in Africa, they would be crying to come back to America

Al Jazeera: But you say now that the system is against them?


Akon: I was talking about a way of life. A far as the system goes, the system in America was never built for black people. This is my personal opinion, I am speaking for myself. I don't believe it was ever built for black people because that system has never been changed; those documents have never been altered.

These things were made back in the umpteen hundreds and these are the same exact literature that's down today. So mind you, by the time it was made, black people were never in a position where they were looked at as equal, so if it's the same documents that they are applying today, it wasn't meant for them
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Al Jazeera: When you see Ferguson, Missouri, today and you hear of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, do you sympathise? Do you understand that experience that these people are denouncing?

Akon: I clearly understand the frustration. What I don't understand is that how, if I'm in a position where they are and I don't want to speak too much for them, because I think I might have some knowledge they might not quite have, because I'm in the position where I have experienced Africa, and I've experienced the United States. I always felt like Africa was for Africans. When I see African Americans in America dealing with all these issues, my first question is: 'Why don't they just go back home?'

Al Jazeera: Where?

Akon: Back to Africa. Where they'll be treated fairly. Where they'll actually be praised for who they are, because of the fact that they are American. They'll get way better treatment, they can invest their money...


Al Jazeera: How do you tell people who have lived for generations, centuries and centuries in one land to move to a place they don't know?

Akon: No, but that's my point. They don't know. It starts with a visit.
How many African Americans do you know [who] actually consider Africa as a vacation spot? Not one. When you look at the overall population of African Americans, a small percentage would decide to go to Africa for vacation. Even, just for knowledge, just to know where they came from, just to get an idea of what that is, there is so much fear instilled in them, that they wouldn't even want to go there to visit. You mention Africa, they start shaking.
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America made him a multimillionaire. This lets him be in the position to advocate for causes he sees as important. Seems a bit odd.
 
Saw the interview this morning on Talk with Aljazeera. Quite interesting to hear his thoughts and points, though many of them are quite uninformed as a whole. But I thought his point about America not being built for blacks was spot on.
 
He's saying it's a rich country full of opportunity even for the poor. Not sure that's incompatible.

a case of someone responding after reading the title only.

it's kind of an interesting topic he brings up but it's not like he was the only one to bring it up.
 
As a Nigerian-American I see little reason to "shake in fear" at the thought of going to "Africa". Which isn't a singular entity as he puts it but rather 58 countries ranging from lushious tourist spots such as Cape Verde to pirate infested areas as Mogadishu. Wow! Who knew a continent could vary.

America may not be built for African-Americans but African-Americans helped build America.
 
Responses so far that seemed to have read the OP, 2/5.
Read the whole article, of which the ops title was a quote from the man himself. What's the problem?
As a Nigerian-American I see little reason to "shake in fear" at the thought of going to "Africa". Which isn't a singular entity as he puts it but rather 58 countries ranging from lushious tourist spots such as Cape Verde to pirate infested areas as Mogadishu. Wow! Who knew a continent could vary.

America may not be built for Africans but Africans helped build America.
I think it's somewhat ironic that there are tons of western white mocking memes about "Africa being a country" and akon is engaging in the same thought process by assuming the homogeneity of Africa as if it's one monolith.
 
"How many African-Americans do you know actually consider Africa as a vacation spot? Not one... Even just for knowledge, just to know where they came from, just to get an idea of what that is; there is so much fear instilled in them that they wouldn't even want to go there to visit. You mention Africa, they start shaking."

I had to quote this because it's definitely something I've literally said before. My family is Nigerian so I've obviously been there to visit relatives and stuff, the same with my black friends who have family in Africa, but it's always my white friends who always sound so excited to go there for vacation. Never have I, or my other black friends, ever thought of going to a random African country for vacation

The "start shaking" part is a bit ridiculous though. I don't think we're "afraid" of going. I can only speak for myself, but I just don't personally think of any African country when I think of places where I want to vacation to.

Well, maybe Egypt, once all the unrest and violence there has passed
 
So is there more to this interview somewhere? Seems like the title is a little disconnected from the content.
 
I had to quote this because it's definitely something I've literally said before. My family is Nigerian so I've obviously been there to visit relatives and stuff, the same with my black friends who have family in Africa, but it's always my white friends who always sound so excited to go there for vacation. Never have I, or my other black friends, ever thought of going to a random African country for vacation

I don't think Akon is necessarily speaking to you.

It's more inclined to the African Americans(or "Blacks") who have no idea of their ancestry.
 
I'll know, right? There's a black president so I don't get what there is to complain about.

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That's good that he has all this philanthropic projects.
When you're a multimillionaire your money always speaks louder.
 
Coincidentally, since we're on the topic of Africa, it should be pointed out that Vice is one of the few western news organizations that maintains a constant presence in several countries there, and their output is very often quite solid.

Wouldn't recommend watching the Boko Haram videos unless you wanna start the week depressed as hell, tho.

Their Cowboy Capitalists video is a safe and sufficiently interesting start.

The "start shaking" part is a bit ridiculous though. I don't think we're "afraid" of going. I can only speak for myself, but I just don't personally think of any African country when I think of places where I want to vacation to.

Tried suggesting South Africa as a vacation spot to my family last year, showed the beaches, cities and all.

Fear at the mere suggestion was palpable.

But we're white.
 
I had to quote this because it's definitely something I've literally said before. My family is Nigerian so I've obviously been there to visit relatives and stuff, the same with my black friends who have family in Africa, but it's always my white friends who always sound so excited to go there for vacation. Never have I, or my other black friends, ever thought of going to a random African country for vacation

The "start shaking" part is a bit ridiculous though. I don't think we're "afraid" of going. I can only speak for myself, but I just don't personally think of any African country when I think of places where I want to vacation to.

Well, maybe Egypt, once all the unrest and violence there has passed

I'd vacation in South Africa, Cape Verde (as aforementioned), Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha, Seychelles Islands, Mayotte, all very nice places! Although I do see your point.
 
Well yeah it was built on their backs and breastfeed on their blood.

But native Americans were done worse, they were almost killed off.
 
Why is Akon talking about Africa like it's a single entity? A black American will gain nothing from going there unless its to the country their ancestors originated from.
 
Thread title seems unrelated to the article excerpt. I agree - who would rather be a poor African than a poor black American? Most Liberians make less than $1000 per year.
 
Well yeah it was built on their backs and breastfeed on their blood.

But native Americans were done worse, they were almost killed off.

Given blankets fill of diseases they never encountered before, slaughtering of bison and buffalo so natives would literally starve to death or have to leave the area to find other sources of food. If you think about it, first nations/native americans are one of the few people colonized by European powers who'll never have their lands back. Some small reservations and a modicum of autonomy is all they'll ever get with a dwindling population beset by numerous problems. In Canada, even well into the late 20the century, you still had residential schools where children of natives were taken and put into boarding schools that were created solely to strip them of their heritage. Teach them the catholic religion, force them to learn English, hundreds of thousands of them, thousands even died or suffered horrendous physical and sexual abuse.

But as for Akon, he's not wrong. Anyone expecting anything different anytime soon is also going to be disappointed. Egalitarianism won't ever exist. Even if you think racism has ended (it hasn't), the primary and dominant positions of power are held by European Americans. This is a primarily white country founded by white people, for white people, exploiting people of colour along the way. Whether it's cheap slave labor of blacks, forced labor of Chinese and Irish, and even now, using undocumented immigrants to help sustain millions of jobs and businesses that would collapse were they forced to pay equal wages and benefits.
 
yea. That added snippet is intriguing but again this is a topic brought up by maaany known blacks especially during the mid 1900's.

But as for Akon, he's not wrong. Anyone expecting anything different anytime soon is also going to be disappointed. Egalitarianism won't ever exist. Even if you think racism has ended (it hasn't), the primary and dominant positions of power are held by European Americans. This is a primarily white country founded by white people, for white people, exploiting people of colour along the way. Whether it's cheap slave labor of blacks, forced labor of Chinese and Irish, and even now, using undocumented immigrants to help sustain millions of jobs and businesses that would collapse were they forced to pay equal wages and benefits.

hard pill to swallow but very true.

This may be one of those rare times where I actually agree with what a celebrity says on a social issue
 
I would imagine a lot of African Americans would find it difficult to trace their ancestry? In Australia, a lot of Indigenous people have lost touch with their home because of forced separations even as recent as the 1950s. For African Americans whose ancestors were taken as slaves from centuries ago I can't imagine it would be easy to say with any certainty that they have roots that go back to any specific region.
 
"When I see African Americans in America dealing with all these issues, my first question is: 'Why don't they just go back home?'

Al Jazeera: Where?

Akon: Back to Africa. Where they'll be treated fairly. Where they'll actually be praised for who they are, because of the fact that they are American. They'll get way better treatment, they can invest their money..."

This part is especially humorous for me. Besides the logistics of uprooting your entire family (Or even yourself, plane tickets are in the thousands) to Africa, where would they go? With no knowledge of the geographic, economic, political, and social situation of an African country, more prone to disease, no knowledge of the language (Unless they go to an English speaking country, but even then). Also he forgets that ethnic discrimination still occurs, as well as that being American is a blessing and a curse.
 
"When I see African Americans in America dealing with all these issues, my first question is: 'Why don't they just go back home?'

Al Jazeera: Where?

Akon: Back to Africa. Where they'll be treated fairly. Where they'll actually be praised for who they are, because of the fact that they are American. They'll get way better treatment, they can invest their money..."

This part is especially humorous for me. Besides the logistics of uprooting your entire family (Or even yourself, plane tickets are in the thousands) to Africa, where would they go? With no knowledge of the geographic, economic, political, and social situation of an African country, more prone to disease, no knowledge of the language (Unless they go to an English speaking country, but even then). Also he forgets that ethnic discrimination still occurs, as well as that being American is a blessing and a curse.

Well, he is a rapper. He is obviously knowledgeable in all these nuances you speak of. Africa is probably his favorite country.
 
This right here:

"How many African-Americans do you know actually consider Africa as a vacation spot? Not one... Even just for knowledge, just to know where they came from, just to get an idea of what that is; there is so much fear instilled in them that they wouldn't even want to go there to visit. You mention Africa, they start shaking."

Is probably one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen quoted by anybody ever. If Akon even had the most basic of history lessons he would know modern day African Americans, despite centuries of brainwashing, have looked towards Africa with respect, love, and admiration.

He's a double agent, and even more funny to see he falls into the "Why don't they just leave" camp too. Spoken as somebody whose people never picked cotton, never fought for a right, and never died for a land. Would he be chirping that same tune about the Dogon, who has contributed fuck all to Senegal, leaving places where they have built to "find respect"? Like fuck he would. Akon is a joke.
 
I feel like the suggestion that you should see your ancestry and know where you came from is kind of insulting when talking to a group of people who largely have no way of tracing their roots past a handful of generations. It's not like any black american would show up in Cameroon and be like, "Ah, my people!"


Hell, I could probably trace my ancestry back to whichever European countries my ancestors came fron but I don't think visiting them would do much for me on that level, because I am by no means culturally English or German or whatever else I might be. There's no connection there.
 
I find it a bit troubling that a black man is telling black Americans to "go back to Africa."

I wonder why he thinks that black Americans have any connection to Africa. It's like telling white Americans that if they're having a hard time to go live in Europe. What about indians? They're disadvantaged minorities, but they're from here, what should they do if they're not treated fairly?
 
This right here:

"How many African-Americans do you know actually consider Africa as a vacation spot? Not one... Even just for knowledge, just to know where they came from, just to get an idea of what that is; there is so much fear instilled in them that they wouldn't even want to go there to visit. You mention Africa, they start shaking."

Is probably one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen quoted by anybody ever. If Akon even had the most basic of history lessons he would know modern day African Americans, despite centuries of brainwashing, have looked towards Africa with respect, love, and admiration.

He's a double agent, and even more funny to see he falls into the "Why don't they just leave" camp too. Spoken as somebody whose people never picked cotton, never fought for a right, and never died for a land. Would he be chirping that same tune about the Dogon, who has contributed fuck all to Senegal, leaving places where they have built to "find respect"? Like fuck he would. Akon is a joke.

Yes. You see the truth. He is a double agent. He is probably a CIA plant. FBI too. KGB even.
 
I don't think that quote is a stretch at all, regarding the notion that many blacks haven't the slightest urge to visit Africa for vacation.
The people who see Africa that way are probably the same ones who think Europe is a country.

Not really.

Many countries in Europe are given an identity through the media. They're portrayed differently, their histories are shown, etc.

Africa is portrayed like a giant land consisting of nothing but jungle and desert - and lately terrorists and disease.
 
This right here:

"How many African-Americans do you know actually consider Africa as a vacation spot? Not one... Even just for knowledge, just to know where they came from, just to get an idea of what that is; there is so much fear instilled in them that they wouldn't even want to go there to visit. You mention Africa, they start shaking."

Is probably one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen quoted by anybody ever. If Akon even had the most basic of history lessons he would know modern day African Americans, despite centuries of brainwashing, have looked towards Africa with respect, love, and admiration.

It's actually quite true. Not saying it's 100% widespread, but not everyone likes the "African" stigma tied to them.

Even native Nigerians looked down on Nigerian-Americans from the time I visited years ago.
 
^Yes.
This right here:

"How many African-Americans do you know actually consider Africa as a vacation spot? Not one... Even just for knowledge, just to know where they came from, just to get an idea of what that is; there is so much fear instilled in them that they wouldn't even want to go there to visit. You mention Africa, they start shaking."

Is probably one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen quoted by anybody ever. If Akon even had the most basic of history lessons he would know modern day African Americans, despite centuries of brainwashing, have looked towards Africa with respect, love, and admiration.

He's a double agent, and even more funny to see he falls into the "Why don't they just leave" camp too. Spoken as somebody whose people never picked cotton, never fought for a right, and never died for a land. Would he be chirping that same tune about the Dogon, who has contributed fuck all to Senegal, leaving places where they have built to "find respect"? Like fuck he would. Akon is a joke.
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No.
 
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