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Hero Prinny said:
omg guys i just remembered, (persona 3 spoilers)
PLS ELIZABETH, TELL ME YOU FINALLY FOUND A WAY TO SAVE THE P3 PROTAGONIST :(
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Honestly, I think it would drastically undermine the entire point of that situation to ever resolve it in a game. The nature of the situation means a solution would take along time, and whether it's ever reached really should be kept ambiguous
 
I still don't get all the "Anne Takamaki" is foreign (name).
It's likely not Anne, and her name's in kanji...
Lisa's name was in katakana.
 
FluxWaveZ said:
Heh, nice tidbit of info.
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If you want to really stretch plausibility, Citroën won the Finland Rally in 1962. ;D

Enduin said:
Yeah don't think so. School crest has three chevrons not two like the Citreon logo. More importantly chevrons are super common especially on emblems/crests. If anything the cast being described as delinquents and possibly at a school for delinquents it could be somewhat militaristic in structure. Would also explain the chevrons on the MC's collar as some kind of rank, but that's probably reading into it too much. Plaid pants aren't exactly military style.
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You do know the Persona car logo thing is a (pretty convincing) meme, right?
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The P5 school logo is not a total duplicate of Citroën's, but it's the closest of the auto manufacturers I've seen.
 
mdubs said:
That's what P3P is for. Playing P3 original is more likely to turn people off the series than starting with P4G
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I disagree since dropping p3 from what I've seen has more to do with the slow plot than the mechanics. P3P doesn't change that.
Qualms about the mechanics usually is rooted in being accustomed to how P4 works. A bias.
 
I sent a link to the trailer to my friend and he said it just looked like P3-4, he felt like he had seen it already.

Not the reaction I was hoping for. I'll take him to the optometrist soon.
 
Afrocious said:
Yeah seriously. I don't want any of the plotlines of 3 and 4 being touched in P5 unless they're just minor references.

No P4U shit either. Oh god not that shit.
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I don't think I'd personally mind for like one character from a previous game to make a big appearance, but otherwise I want the game to be completely new. For example, I think Naoto being a detective on our case could be interesting if done right.

DryEyeRelief said:
I disagree since dropping p3 from what I've seen has more to do with the plot than the mechanics. p3p doesn't change that.
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This is what I thought but my anecdotal evidence has kind of changed my view. I love Persona 3 so much, specifically portable. I bought a LOT of people FES who didn't have PSPs. Specifically 5 different people. None of them finished the game. On the other hand I've bought 3 different people copies of P3P (including one who previously hadn't finished FES) and not only did they all finish it, but they all loved it. It's only anecdotal but for real, P3P has been a much bigger hit amongst my friend group.
 
Jamix012 said:
I don't think I'd personally mind for like one character from a previous game to make a big appearance, but otherwise I want the game to be completely new. For example, I think Naoto being a detective on our case could be interesting if done right.
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I'd be down for that.

I just don't want Ultimate being acknowledged despite it being canon.
 
Guys, I had a hard time beginning Persona 3 Portable after finishing P4G, and because the exploration/social links were not as robust, it turned me off and I didnt feel that initial clique (Stopped by floor 10 of Tartarus I think lol)

When does the game really picks up? I feel like I wanna at least get P3P done before P5 :P
 
I thought it was okay in Persona 4 because it was one fairly minor character.

I thought it was real dumb in Persona 3 Portable where they just straight up meet young Yukiko and Chie.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
I thought it was okay in Persona 4 because it was one fairly minor character.

I thought it was real dumb in Persona 3 Portable where they just straight up meet young Yukiko and Chie.
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I didn't play P3P so I can't speak on those scenes, but I agree about P4's reference to P3.

It also helped the minor character they showed had obviously grown as a character by not being shy anymore, probably due to the S.Link in P3 which. Such display has its own charm. Then she goes on to mention Mitsuru off-hand, which was perfect.
 
Crazy Persona 5 party member concept: a drag queen.

Someone who is a man by day, but when fighting with the party in their masked criminal/vigilante persona by night dresses/presents themselves as a girl.

Seems like a logical follow-up to Kanji and Naoto.
 
As someone who only played 3 and 4, how did demons tie into the previous persona games? Was it straight up getting summoned like the mainline games?
 
Time to point out the obvious stuff that's probably been brought up a hundred times and I didn't notice, the guys at IGN didn't know what it was but yeah, this guy sells equipment apparently.

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Above you can read, from top to bottom:

  • Assassin Knife
  • Handgun
  • Dark Inner
  • Fashion Glass
I'm guessing those are: Main Weapon, Secondary Weapon, Armor (Protector according to the video) and Accessory. I can't read many Kanjis but I see the Kanjis for the main weapon and secondary weapon are the same but one.
 
F4r0_Atak said:
The only advantage Square used to have for their games is the marketing power they bring for their big titles, but based on the impressions and reactions to the latest Persona 5 trailer, more people seem to be hyped for this game than FF XV.
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I wouldn't go that far. Internet hype doesn't always translate into the mainstream, especially when you're mainly looking at the opinion of enthusiast communities. Look at PS Plus; if you were to take GAF's word for it, the service offered "unbelievable value" and was a no brainer for anyone who owned a Sony platform, but in reality the number of Plus subscribers was hovering around a couple million and only started going up dramatically after the PS4's online paywall.

FF still has much more pull over the masses than Persona, even in its current state.
 
Lot of useful info here...I always heard good things about Persona but thought all of them were like the SMT games with the religious over-tones. I mean, my favorite genres are RPG's which has all kinds of deities and such, but they are literally using the Hebrew word for God's name with all types of biblical references. Even if it was in jest (which it doesn't appear to be, looks like you fight God himself, humankind are the true good guys, Satan has grey areas etc...) it's pretty offensive, glad that's not the focus of the Persona titles cuz I probably wouldn't get through them.

Gonna start with P4 and see how it goes though...That trailer for some reason reminded me of Lupin the 3rd mixed with Cowboy bebop. I have to check out a game that does that!

How many hours do you guys put into these titles? Are they mostly for the story or fun to 100% as well?
 
Suzushiiro said:
Crazy Persona 5 party member concept: a drag queen.

Someone who is a man by day, but when fighting with the party in their masked criminal/vigilante persona by night dresses/presents themselves as a girl.

Seems like a logical follow-up to Kanji and Naoto.
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I took issue with Kanji's and Naoto's character arcs involving his sexuality and her reason for posing as a man. I hear Naoto is better handled in the japanese version of P4 though.

I'd like your idea, but I'd love it if it was played straight without anyone getting picked on throughout the whole game.
 
Reveirg said:
Where does the Sony involvement rumor stem from?
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FluxWaveZ said:
I don't know where that supposed rumor comes from, either. The only thing that I could point to regarding a Sony involvement with Persona 5 like that is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVw0exNdCJw#t=1927

(Look at Shuhei Yoshida's face)
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Different factors, I would say:

- first, like FluxWaveZ pointed out, the way Yoshia reacted to Colin's question regarding Persona 5, that contained excitement (because he knew it was coming to PS4 but couldn't reveal it), could be a hint of what SCE were brewing with Atlus and the Persona studio.

- Second, the fact that Adam Boyes (whose the vice-president for publishers and developers relationship at SCEA) presented on stage Persona 5 (a niche JRPG) as one of the featured titles of PSX, especially also one of their most favorite franchises (for SCE). Knowing his position at the company, why would he push a niche game like the Persona 5 (beside marketing exposure for the title and theirs consoles)? It is easy to see that the Persona franchise has already a very strong and heavy attachment to the Playstation brand. With such attachment and relationship with the studio itself, it could be easy for him to get a deal with Atlus and the Persona studio, in order to help with the funding, making and marketing of the game. Also, you will have to take into account that PSX will most likely be/become an annual event for Playstation and it is in no manner a small event. (source = http://youtu.be/vlRZ2UxAe0E?t=48m56s )
 
mdubs said:
That's what P3P is for. Playing P3 original is more likely to turn people off the series than starting with P4G
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Yeah I played P3P after Golden. They were my first twi Persona games. In some ways I like 3 more.

Edit: P4G took me something like 65 hours.
P3P took only 35 hours. Played that one on easy though.
 
F4r0_Atak said:
Like I said, with the rumor of SCE helping funding and making (and possibly marketing the game with Atlus),I don't really see the game being on PC happening.

Second, the developers you named in that post just happened to make most of the super niche games, with Compile Hearts being a studio under Idea Factory and Acquire being under GungHo (which happens to make most of its money from mobile and MMO games, which happens to have PC as a main platform). The problems with their games from being super niche is they are too weird for the regular market of gamers and JRPG fans in general. Despite the popularity of the systems they release their games on (DS, PSP, PS3, etc), they don't and will never have a bigger market than what they already have. After reviewing their financial situation, you could easily figure that releasing some of their games on PC (via Steam) could cope a bit for that publishing cost affiliated with Japanese games.

Furthermore, if you also take into account that, despite looking like "niche" games, the Persona franchise (and to some extent the Shin Megami Tensei franchise) are "hardcore" JRPGs at heart, which has a much much larger market available to them and that already makes them way more appealing to the regular market and JRPG fans alike. The main attraction with the Persona franchise is the idea of Murder/Mystery/Cult/Demons fused to a JRPG, which already makes it more appealing than the Final Fantasy franchise for a lot of people. The only advantage Square used to have for their games is the marketing power they bring for their big titles, but based on the impressions and reactions to the latest Persona 5 trailer, more people seem to be hyped for this game than FF XV.
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Yeah... naw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT3dyanB3pk&spfreload=10

3.7 million views.
 
As someone who played both Persona 3 and 4 years after their original releases (and had details from both respective plot lines spoiled) it is refreshing to finally get the chance to play a Persona game at release.

:D

And to join in on the chorus of praise, this game looks absolutely amazing!
 
Here's hoping that you take a class field trip to Inaba at some point. Heading to Gekkoukan was definitely one of the highlight moments in P4.
 
DryEyeRelief said:
I disagree since dropping p3 from what I've seen has more to do with the slow plot than the mechanics. P3P doesn't change that.
Qualms about the mechanics usually is rooted in being accustomed to how P4 works. A bias.
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Persona 3 generally does a worse job explaining itself, plus it has a poorly paced plot. Playing P4G first allows people to get a handle on things like fusing and the battle system faster so once they know they like the series, they are willing to stick with P3 despite its initial problems to get to the good stuff
 
zogged said:
As someone who only played 3 and 4, how did demons tie into the previous persona games? Was it straight up getting summoned like the mainline games?
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The demons were your personas and you fought shadows in battle.

In this video no personas were shown yet and the party was fighting demons (Sandman and Pyro Jack).
 
Persona 3 really drip feeds you Personas and Social Links early on and essentially nothing really interesting happens from like May to October. Once the plot picks up the game starts firing on all cylinders though and doesn't let up until it's over.

Persona 4 takes longer to get to the actual game, but Persona 3 takes longer to find its groove. It almost feels like it's more unsure of itself, not sure how well players will handle its systems. Though Persona 4 can be daunting for a new player when you finally get to make your own decisions regarding daily activities.
 
wmlk said:
That's a weird metric to use, considering Persona 5 came out less than 24 hours ago and has 75% of the likes FFXV has already. See? I can do it too.

FFXV will be bigger than Persona 5, but again, that's a weird metric to use.
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FluxWaveZ said:
And the Persona 5 trailer has reached over 600k views in less than 17 hours. Not that it will necessarily reach 3.7 million views throughout the same time frame, but it's not like this comparison works at the moment.
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In no universe will this video ever hit 3.7 million views.

The most all time for a Persona related video is a 1.5 million and the previous Persona 5 trailer did 950,000.

Persona's relevance is just not the same as Final Fantasy. Even still, in 2015.
 
Whoever starts with P3, I hope you hate Strega as much as I do. They suck.

Vire said:
In no universe will this video ever hit 3.7 million views.

The most all time for a Persona related video is a 1.5 million and the previous Persona 5 trailer did 950,000.

Persona's relevance is just not the same as Final Fantasy. Even still, in 2015.
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Again, weird metric to use. I'm not denying what you're saying.

Using a coy answer like that and linking a video just made no sense at all.
 
eyeball_kid said:
You do know the Persona car logo thing is a (pretty convincing) meme, right?
http://i.minus.com/jVsdwPMQZvEI5.JPG[IMG]

The P5 school logo is not a total duplicate of Citroën's, but it's the closest of the auto manufacturers I've seen.[/QUOTE]

I do now. Interesting.
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