I think that's true, but I don't think your video statistic comparisons work. Sure, this one most likely won't reach 3.7 mil., so I can kind of see your point, but it's also a video that just came out.
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I think that's true, but I don't think your video statistic comparisons work. Sure, this one most likely won't reach 3.7 mil., so I can kind of see your point, but it's also a video that just came out.
Joyful
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I think you nailed it, nice catch
SoulUnison
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Is the ice skating motif just 'cuz or does it tie into story somehow?
It's likely a thematic thing.
Figure skating is known to be performances that are very expressive. The characters in Persona 5, unlike previous Persona games, seem to fully embrace their personality and love expressing themselves when they're free. That's my take on it, at least.
If you notice, they dance like figure skaters.
Probably just for style
Styyyyyyyle.
Not to jump in, but I'm curious about what then is a good metric to use....if one's saying P5 is more hyped than FFVX
Nintendoga
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I know I've said it before but I'm so happy Igor is back. Was worried for a second that he'd be replaced.
His design looks a little different
It is easy to have more pull over the masses when your series is nearing its 30th anniversary (which will happen in 2017). The Final Fantasy franchise developed over three different generations of gamers.
Yeah!! It's easy to reach those numbers when you have these two things: an English version of the trailer available online and the fact that it's multiplatform. Atlus has yet to release their official English version of that new trailer on Youtube and the Playstation Blog.
I would have agreed with that argument if Catherine happened on PC. Atlus doesn't seem to see any reason to push their games for PC despite the possible income related to such thing. :/
But the current situation is that... the Persona team's games are profitable the way they are for the most part (I guess their pipeline must be frikking efficient to be that profitable). Atlus does not seem like "needing" the PC market to survive like some other publishers do. That way they can limit the funding to what they really need to make the game on PS3 and PS4. Also, having a platform holder (like Nintendo or SCE) support their projects must make their financial involvement less risky (because they become shared with the platform holder) and they can count on the platform holder to help technically with the development and their respective systems, which lowers again the risk inherent to game development and the workload in general.
Makoto Yuki
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Teasing the Olympic game spin off where they compete against other Persona series characters in tests of athleticism.
Hard to say without his in-game appearance, I think it was the animation style that messed with his features a bit.
MaximumSpider
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So does the main character move in, go to school, meet Anne, Ryuji, and the cat, start a heist, and fight demons all in a single day?
XV is more mainstream. You can't really use a place like GAF - which tends to overhype even the most niche of games - as a barometer for how something will do stacked against something with more worldwide appeal.
Instead of randomly getting new personas at the end of a battle, you would negotiate with the demons and get certain things, some of which that would allow you to fuse them as Personas later. You couldn't straight up recruit them to fight with you like SMT though. At least in 2, I never played the original Persona.
It's likely a thematic thing.
Figure skating is known to be performances that are very expressive. The characters in Persona 5, unlike previous Persona games, seem to fully embrace their personality and love expressing themselves when they're free. That's my take on it, at least.
If you notice, they dance like figure skaters.
There is also the way the MC slides across the floor in the dungeon.
True, but while P3 was beloved it was small. P4 sort of exploded in popularity. It's spread wide across the internet. The fandom is pretty huge.
I can only see P5 pulling down increasingly large numbers. Doubt it will do FF numbers but it's going to be one of the bigger jrpg successes that we see in the west. The west might life Persona more than Japan.
Aerocia
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Agreed. The music's even stuck in my head now.
Day 1 buy and I haven't done that in years.Cow Goes Moo
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next up is page views/ and # of responses compounded by # of threads
DryEyeRelief
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I disagree with that. Persona 3's tutorial explains each aspect of the battle system through a series of enemy fights. They focus on a single aspect and allow you to repeat the explanation if you didn't catch it before. And you have a lot of breathing room to explore and learn before you have to get serious.
Persona 4 just throws everything at you at once. Some key explanations are in the middle of joking dialogue while proceeding through dungeons. You can miss key things if you're too X happy because you can't reread explanations.
And the second thing you literally fight is a boss
If you're suggesting that people develop a dedication to the series after finishing P4G then why play P3P over P3FES? Arguing that people should start with 4 first doesn't mean they should settle for the version of Persona 3 with weaker production values.
Makoto Yuki
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I don't think an English trailer and the fact that FFXV is multiplatform contributed to it's view numbers. People have been waiting for the game for almost a decade, and it's the next number FF game. Trailer language and the game being multiplatform is irrelevant to the people who want the game.
Atlus releasing an official English version on Youtube and the Playstation Blog isn't exactly gonna help P5's view numbers as much either.
While I do believe FFXV will sell more, I don't know if P5 will be a better game. Honestly, It's hard to judge either game based on trailers only. The real test comes when we get the games in our hands and can finally play them for ourselves. I hope they both find success and are equally enjoyable in their own rights.
As a fan of both series, I hope both are amazing.
Whoa whoa whoa, who's looking to even compare...
Well that assumes that the game follows the same archetypes as the previous games.
We don't necessarily know the full set-up. For the sake of pacing, perhaps this is our first in-game day where the core characters already know each other well and have been waiting to put their plan in action. We see them review schematics in the cafe, and there's a notebook full of notes near the cat.
Could be this is their first act of vigilantism and have faced their life altering moment (delinquent ---> chaotic good) earlier in the game?
[Edit] It's also in the realm of possibility they splashed 4/11 across all footage to show all potential gameplay that can occur in a day.
I'd seriously love to see something like this, as long as it's not played as a joke. Make it part of their identity. It would be interesting.
I do know that already mate
P)... Especially knowing that Final Fantasy is the older franchise compared to Persona.I am confident of three things: first, both will do well commercially (exceeding expectations). Second, I believe Square relies on XV to sell great (after all this dev time) to see if they can already tackle the FF XVI project a few months after its release... and with their engine. Finally, both will be acclaimed by the critics and gamers, although only one will have the overall consensus and appeal.
The P5 trailer and Type-0/XV trailers hit at basically the same time, so people have been comparing them all day on Twitter, if nowhere else.
They're two high-profile JRPGs. I understand they're being made under notedly different circumstances, but it's really no more or less fair to put them in competition with each other than it is to compare the last Dragon Age and Witcher 3, as an example.
I'm new be nice
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I think people just want Atlus to be rewarded for creating interesting games that have stepped outside the usual conventions that plague the genre.
awilliams213
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I was going to go to sleep a while ago but I needed to get some fanart hype out of my system. It's been a fun day thanks GAF
Unknown Soldier
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So are they like superheroes or something?
DAT CAT
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So far we've met MC, MC's bro, MC's waifu, and MC's cat
More character reveals to come probably?
Now that everyone isn't chibi anymore, the aesthetic really feels like Catherine.
I'm assuming that's the PS3 version, it's clearly not native 1080p res and the jaggies could cut you to death. Hopefully they'll upgrade it to 1080p for PS4 release. Hell, it doesn't even look like the game is that visually taxing since it's cross-gen, Atlus could shoot for 4K resolution on PS4.
DAT CAT
SUMMON CAT PERUSONA
So far we've met MC, MC's bro, MC's waifu, and MC's cat
More character reveals to come probably?
Now that everyone isn't chibi anymore, the aesthetic really feels like Catherine.
I'm assuming that's the PS3 version, it's clearly not native 1080p res and the jaggies could cut you to death. Hopefully they'll upgrade it to 1080p for PS4 release. Hell, it doesn't even look like the game is that visually taxing since it's cross-gen, Atlus could shoot for 4K resolution on PS4.
Both will do well respective to their target and goals.
Luminous is dead and is being scrapped beyond FFXV (it's sequels may use it though.)
Square moving onto Unreal 4
FF consensus is always split. So I guess that means P5 will be universally well received.
That's fair. I'd like them to be rewarded as well.
Comparing the first real trailer of P5 with FFXV's demo trailer just doesn't make sense. I wouldn't even call that a trailer.
The TGS 2014 trailer for FFXV is the equivalent to today's trailer.
If you want to get technical, today they confirmed the release timing of the demo and that thread is long gone off the first page.
And? Are we going to pretend that no one saw this coming? P5 dominated today as it should.
threelights
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I am confident in three things: P5 will be amazing. FFXV will be amazing. And Ys VIII will be better (possibly being surpassed by KH3 later on).
Going back to the thread, I still think it's weird how on the map you see one enemy (that looks like a shadow), but in-battle you're just fighting the Personas like Pyro Jack and stuff.
Is that knight enemy on the map a Persona (or demon in the SMT series)? I honestly don't remember.
Shouta
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Foreigners that become citizens of Japan or people that aren't ethnic Japanese that are born in Japan are required to have their names changed into Katakana/hiragana/kanji. Foreigners can choose kanji that approximate the pronunciation of their name as their official name. If Anne Takamaki is actually Finnish, then the name written in Kanji would be correct for that.
Kanji and Naoto are stories about gender roles in Japan and challenging it more than anything. So it wouldn't really be a logical follow-up. It'd be very interesting though if P5 handled transgenderism and homosexuality more directly.
dapperbandit
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I'm finding it difficult to keep up with this thread.
Obviously I'm excited.
But is there any talk of a video analysis?
I'm sure a fair amount of light could be shed if some of the Japanese was translated.
Forgive me if this has been requested ad nauseum already.
Obviously I'm excited.
But is there any talk of a video analysis?
I'm sure a fair amount of light could be shed if some of the Japanese was translated.
Forgive me if this has been requested ad nauseum already.
That would likely go with the theory that they "become" their Personas. They're so comfortable in their own skin they don't need to put up a metaphorical mask for society.
It's likely a thematic thing.
Figure skating is known to be performances that are very expressive. The characters in Persona 5, unlike previous Persona games, seem to fully embrace their personality and love expressing themselves when they're free. That's my take on it, at least.
If you notice, they dance like figure skaters.
So they wear literal masks I guess.
lol me too, i tried following but.... just couldn't keep up lol
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