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Neill Blomkamp's Chappie (2015, Hugh Jackman, Sharlto Copley, Die Antwoord)
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Currently 20% at Rotten. Yikes, I had hopes
Neil "one-hit wonder" Blomkamp, it seems.
And considering the trajectory of the Alien franchise, I expect putridness on a level that has yet been achieved on that score.
Lord Error
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If only. M. NIght had three awesome movies before things went south.So he's going to become the M. Night Shyamalan of Sci-Fi?
CassidyIzABeast
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From scifi savior to flabby and sick 2 movies later.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Its not the equal of district 9, lets say. And I've seen much stronger sic-fi films, both from this director, this year, and whats coming etc. But its certainly not a bad movie.
Anton Sugar
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What are the chances that negative reception of Chappie will impact his control over the new Alien movie?
So is it better or worse than Jupiter Ascending?
Based on Rotten, a little bit worse.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Better. Not that that is bad either.
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Blomkamp Alien is going to be so horrible. People saw the concept art and saw his name attached and went all crazy for it. Never mind the fact that it looked plain horrible, and it was Blomkamp who was to direct. How that seemed like a good idea utterly alludes me.
Mass_Pincup
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Way better but that's not saying much.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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If I was to give review scores lets say, jupiter ascending would be a 55%, and this would be a 61%.
What scifi films this year did you like better?
I liked Jupiter Ascending for the sheer scifi spectacle, but I wouldn't call it a good movie.
I am seriously afraid as well, most of all because of the concept art.
The Alien exo feels all kind of wrong to me.
As for Chappie.. I sort of expected it. Plus i genuinely HATE Die Antwoord, so it was gonna be tricky for me in any case.
TrumanBurbank
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Been reading the reviews...At least M Night Shyamalan made Unbreakable after Sixth Sense which was a good movie. Signs was pretty decent too until the ending.
Blomkamp is looking to be a one hit wonder.
But what a freaking hit that movie was. District 9 is a movie I will always love. More and more I hope he never makes a sequel to D9 because it'll disappoint for sure looking at his recent track record.
Blomkamp is looking to be a one hit wonder.
But what a freaking hit that movie was. District 9 is a movie I will always love. More and more I hope he never makes a sequel to D9 because it'll disappoint for sure looking at his recent track record.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Project almanac personally.
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This is so weird to me, I kinda expect genre fare to get slammed on principle by a lot of critics. I'd love to see what Blade Runner's Metacritic score would've been back in 1982 for example!
So many genre classics from that era got fucking murdered by the critics back then, The Thing, Blade Runner, Alien, you name it. Which isn't to say that *everything* back then took a beating, stuff like E.T. got excellent reviews for example.
When did people start giving a toss about what critics think anyway?
Fudgepuppy
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So not really a true indicator of quality, but it has 8.5 on Imdb after 497 votes.
Lys Skygge
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Reminds me more of Richard Kelly. Donnie Darko was a great start to his career...but everything after was crap.So he's going to become the M. Night Shyamalan of Sci-Fi?
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Honestly, your average Gaffer's opinion is probably worth more than aggregate critic ratings.
This is off-topic, but Chappie starting with 1 positive and 4 negative reviews reminds me of another anticipated film that started out that way on RT (look at the third movie under "Opening").
I'm not at all saying Chappie will end up being highly rated because another movie did so or drawing any comparisons between the movies. Just a random trip down memory lane. When I saw The Prestige at 20% I got a little worried.
Bonus from that same page:
The Driver
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Lmao, if Jackman is anything it's a teamplayer. That dude is one of the guys from Titanic still playing the violin while the ship is sinking.
Sucks for Chappie, I'll still catch it, but after not caring about Elysium I don't have my hopes up.
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This is just not true.
How can you know whether it will be better than Prometheus? If anything, going by just the concept art, it seems to be nothing short of a betrayal of the original Alien.
I'm not sure if Chappie will turn out to be good, but GAF's ability to regard and disregard Rotten Tomatoes at a moment's notice is pretty hilarious. Elysium's at 68% and it gets a ton of hate here. I'm not sure why all of a sudden people are making a verdict on this movie because it has a low score after a whopping 5 reviews.
megamerican
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Eh, there's been relatively few films with shit RT scores that get much love beyond really specific niche stuff.
This all makes me wonder if Blomkamp saw the writing on the wall and leaked the Aliens stuff from the stalled pitch in order to get something lined up before Chappie hit.
bonesmccoy
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As long as the robot violence is good, I'll be happy.
Bobby Roberts
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For a forum that looooooves to discredit professional critics, the fact RT is almost solely used as a means to aggregate critical opinion as opposed to viewer scores is interesting. You guys can actually get a decent indicator as to what the "average joe" seems to think if you look at the reader's score/breakdown instead of the critics score.
Or if you ARE gonna look at the critic score, at least keep it to Top Critics only.
Or if you ARE gonna look at the critic score, at least keep it to Top Critics only.
All the top critic reviews are rotten so far.
This is off-topic, but Chappie starting with 1 positive and 4 negative reviews reminds me of another anticipated film that started out that way on RT (look at the third movie under "Opening").
I'm not at all saying Chappie will end up being highly rated because another movie did so or drawing any comparisons between the movies. Just a random trip down memory lane. When I saw The Prestige at 20% I got a little worried.
Bonus from that same page:
I get were you are coming from, but I also read non-english reviews. And well, the panning is universal. Also, as we all know, review embargo till release date.... when was it ever a good sign?
I don't subscribe to the concept that aggregate reviews are shit like many. I don't always agree, but I'm usually within the range of what critics say. Of course that only applies to genres I enjoy, obviously. If I throw out the top and bottom scores I find 90% of the time I fall somewhere between the rest.
Early IMDB reviews are mostly useless because from my experience they are almost always inflated by fans and people who got to see the film early/first.
Bobby Roberts
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IMDB reviews are almost entirely worthless, I've found. But for people who choose to adhere to the belief that professional critics are untrustworthy dopes who can't ever get anything right, it always hits me funny that they IMMEDIATELY rush to RT and only look at the critic scores (and again - not even the GOOD critics scores. But the middling guys) to see if they should get their hopes up.
RT's not a bad aggregate, but no matter what, you can't just look at the single number. You gotta look at either the Top Critic score (if you actually care about film criticism) or the User rating (and then pay attention to what the average rating is, and how many people actually voted)
Of course it's a bad sign when there are review embargoes - I'm not really coming from anywhere. Like I said in that post, I wasn't drawing any comparisons between Chappie and The Prestige each starting with 1+/4- or suggesting that Chappie would somehow end up being positively received because of one prior case of that happening. It was just a completely tangential, unrelated memory jog sans any implication or prediction for Chappie's critical reception.
Agreed. The same is true on the gaming side, but to a lesser extent.
I actually think that the user rating on IMDB after a few months is better than RT for a single important reason-- RT ratings tend to be only voted on by the people who see a film theatrically and are almost always inflated. RT isn't really a hub of long term user interaction. On the other hand IMDB votes are more evenly distributed amongst the people who see a film on DVD, Netflix, or at a friend's house. Those people have less attachment to the film and often saw it for free and thus tend to feel less need to defend it compared to people who rush to the theater opening weekend.
Also the same thing applies to the gaming side. Pre order and launch day buyers are often wildly positive compared to people who pick something up later.
DevelopmentArrested
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Will watch for 2 reasons:
1) Hans Zimmer doing an electronic score - snippets sound amazing.
2) The 2 action scenes - say what you want about Blomkamp, he nails those.
It's obvious that casting Die Antwoord was a huge mistake - given the difficulties on set and the fact that they apparently can't act.
1) Hans Zimmer doing an electronic score - snippets sound amazing.
2) The 2 action scenes - say what you want about Blomkamp, he nails those.
It's obvious that casting Die Antwoord was a huge mistake - given the difficulties on set and the fact that they apparently can't act.
Most of the issues present in Elysium could be seen in District 9 to an extent really.
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