PlayStation 4 hits 20.2 million units sold worldwide (high sodium content warning)

To everyone who doupt you can build a pc which is better than a console for a similar, here is proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZR-a35sxLg
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I know everybody is jumping on you already, but even as a pc gamer I find this post to be dumb. First of all that video is using used parts to lower the price of the pc, so people can also just buy a used ps4 for a cheaper price also. Secondly most of those parts listed aren't easily found at that price. That $10 case isn't available anywhere on amazon, newegg, microcenter or ebay. That motherboard is also hard to find, though I did see one person was selling it used on amazon for $80. That psu is found at $30, not $15. ( I know that's not a huge difference, but so far already there's about $40 price difference between what that video shows and what you can actually buy right now).
Also the guy himself admits that the ram might be a concern in the future, he doesn;t exactly sound very confident that it will last the next few years. So there is no "proof" that it will be better than a console.
So for at least $390 you can scrounge around and buy a pc with used parts, no os,no bluray drive, no controller ( yes I am aware that a pc doesn't necessarily need a controller, but console users would probably want one), and with ram that might not be adequate. Also you get to put it all together yourself and put up with possible headaches.
Meanwhile for $350 you can buy a used ps4 ( or a new one for $400) that is put together, has a controller, blu ray player and is guaranteed to run the games on the system.
 
That's extremely impressive. They are definitely riding that hype machine to the top!
With games like 'Rime' and 'The Tomorrow Children' I'm also glad to see some experimental games hit the console, feels like it could become a new PS2 era for Sony.
 
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Should be handy when PS4 hit 30 million units sold.

Well, at least this thread got this. [ The moment when PS4 hits the tower, it should have ejected Bloodborne disc. :D ]



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My PS4 can post on GAF, your PC can't.

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Is it me or is the PC vs. console rhetoric even more prevalent this gen? I swear I never heard much of a peep of it last gen, but this one, it seems like a lot of PC fans are just waiting in the wings to crap on any positive console news.
 
I love how people buy a console for just one game and refuse to build a pc for hundreds of fantastic exclusives where everyone finds something for their taste.
Bloodborne looks like one of the first really good outstanding games for the PS4 and the only valid purchase reason for a PS4 but it's just one game...
All other exclusive are A. multiform games (no question, even cheap pc's do a better job than any console) B. time exclusive (a bit later in a better and cheaper and often more version on pc) or C. just "ok" games for an unreasonable price.

I'd like to know what are the retail PC games, that I can't play on the PS4? Now that Witcher 3 is coming to PS4, I can't think of a single one I'd miss from there. Well, maybe the next Unreal Tournament, if it returns to the glory of the older entries. It's different with indies, where the PC has clearly the upper hand, but luckily many of those have started to come to the consoles lately. On the other hand, I'd miss several big and small console exclusives on the PC. After all, about half of my past and current gen purchases have been exclusives. It always amazes me how people can be so incapable to understand, that everyone doesn't share their tastes.


EDIT: I guess my bath was in need of some salt though. ;)
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Is it me or is the PC vs. console rhetoric even more prevalent this gen? I swear I never heard much of a peep of it last gen, but this one, it seems like a lot of PC fans are just waiting in the wings to crap on any positive console news.
You never heard much of a peep? I heard it constantly. It was just as obnoxious if not more so then
 
Is it me or is the PC vs. console rhetoric even more prevalent this gen? I swear I never heard much of a peep of it last gen, but this one, it seems like a lot of PC fans are just waiting in the wings to crap on any positive console news.

I guess the indies spreading over PC boarders and jumping ship, like No Man's Sky and Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, added more fuel to the fire.
 
Is it me or is the PC vs. console rhetoric even more prevalent this gen? I swear I never heard much of a peep of it last gen, but this one, it seems like a lot of PC fans are just waiting in the wings to crap on any positive console news.

It was there from around 2009 and onwards. The PC's were just so much more powerful than consoles at that point that there was pretty much only laughing at the console versions.

But when the new systems arrived already way less powerful than the medium ranged PC parts, that's when things kicked up in gear. PC elitists thought that the specs of the new consoles would be their death, but now the salt is pouring because the consoles are selling like hotcakes.

In the end, it's basic fanboy drivel. Fanboys of all platforms hate to see their rivals do well, it goes from all consoles to PCs.

Also, lots of "hardcore" console gamers finding PC gaming, which is a good thing. Also lots of noisy fanboys just migrating between platforms.
 
Is it me or is the PC vs. console rhetoric even more prevalent this gen? I swear I never heard much of a peep of it last gen, but this one, it seems like a lot of PC fans are just waiting in the wings to crap on any positive console news.

I don't know where you were but I remember a whole lot of PC gaming is dieing last generation, hell I was one of those Xbox fanboys touting that. Right now, even on GAF, there seems to be a whole lot more PC gamers on forums than there were last generation (I got here in 2008, so that's all I can compare it too). I'm not sure if Nintendo's downturn or Xbox's reputation/marketshare collapse has much to do with that.

I guess the indies spreading over PC boarders and jumping ship, like No Man's Sky and Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, added more fuel to the fire.

It shouldn't considering the amount of games available to them, mid last generation even thinking stuff like MGSV, Valkyrie Chronicles, Dragonball Xenoverse or hell even Mortal Kombat going to PC would have been laughed at.
 
Well it depends on what kind of salt we are talking about.

You should try some of that pink Himalayan salt. Its actually good for you.

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This is so off topic, but I was just reading up on that pink salt and the funny thing is that any "specialty" salt (like the pink Himalayan) is significantly worse than iodized table salt simply because the table salt can help prevent iodine deficiencies. The other differences are so small that they are completely insignificant (in fact if you think the trace minerals found in the pink salt is enough to be healthier than the trace amounts of radioactive elements like radium and uranium should be life threatening). . Please everyone don't but into that fad and if you do, please don't count your intake of it separately like some websites say you can, all sodium should be limited to 2500 mg a day. Sorry for the slight derail.

source:http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/pass-the-salt-but-not-that-pink-himalayan-stuff/
 
This is nice. I'm mostly a PC gamer, but consoles dying out would be a terrible new for the whole medium. PC has me covered for more niche and hardcore tiles, but I also like to play the simplier big budgeted spectacles and those would practically dissapear without consoles.
I expect PS4 to have nice library for me to play when I finally purchase it in like 2017
 
It shouldn't considering the amount of games available to them, mid last generation even thinking stuff like MGSV, Valkyrie Chronicles, Dragonball Xenoverse or hell even Mortal Kombat going to PC would have been laughed at.

I guess indies spreading over to consoles could also be seen as exclusives lost.
 
Truth is PC gamers should be happy that consoles doing good if they want certain types of games.
Since this gen consoles games are easy to port to PC and them selling good also help with games budget .
Then PC gamers get the games and with there extra hardware get the best version .
 
I guess indies spreading over to consoles could also be seen as exclusives lost.

All platforms are sharing more and more games. 3rd party exclusives are pretty much dead on consoles these days, plenty of indies from PC expand to consoles and a lot of studios is porting to mobile or porting from mobile.

I don't think it's a problem. It used to be, because it meant dumbing down PC games most of the time. But these days those PC where it could happen are designed as PC-only and only after PC version is done they get ported. So it's the best of both worlds. Bigger audience and money to devs without sacrificing the game's design.
 
All platforms are sharing more and more games. 3rd party exclusives are pretty much dead on consoles these days, plenty of indies from PC expand to consoles and a lot of studios is porting to mobile or porting from mobile.

I don't think it's a problem. It used to be, because it meant dumbing down PC games most of the time. But these days those PC where it could happen are designed as PC-only and only after PC version is done they get ported. So it's the best of both worlds. Bigger audience and money to devs without sacrificing the game's design.

I know, but if we're looking into what has changed since last gen, one of the things would be indies becoming more multiplatform, instead of being PC exclusive by default. It's certainly not a problem from my point of view, as it enables me to play them on something else than my laptop.
 
I know, but if we're looking into what has changed since last gen, one of the things would be indies becoming more multiplatform, instead of being PC exclusive by default. It's certainly not a problem from my point of view, as it enables me to play them on something else than my laptop.

I think that trend started last gen. In fact, consoles back them often completely "stole" PC indie devs, where PC versions were outright canceled or delayed significantly. This isn't happening much these days. The only notable exception being Everybody Gone To Rapture.
 
I guess indies spreading over to consoles could also be seen as exclusives lost.

Sure, I'm just saying regardless the guy would have to be a pretty big idiot to get mad over that when he can finally play stuff like Valkyrie Chronicles or MGSV. Though judging by his posts, he was.

I know, but if we're looking into what has changed since last gen, one of the things would be indies becoming more multiplatform, instead of being PC exclusive by default. It's certainly not a problem from my point of view, as it enables me to play them on something else than my laptop.

Last generation indies were pretty much dominated primarily by XBLA for the majority of it. People seem to forget how big of a powerhouse that platform was. Microsoft did a lot of stuff wrong, but during those early years they struck gold there.
 
I think that trend started last gen. In fact, consoles back them often completely "stole" PC indie devs, where PC versions were outright canceled or delayed significantly. This isn't happening much these days. The only notable exception being Everybody Gone To Rapture.

Definitely. XBLA started it, and it expanded from there this gen. Last gen, developers like Frictional didn't release their games on the consoles, but now the more high profile indie titles are widely going multiplatform.
 
It was there from around 2009 and onwards. The PC's were just so much more powerful than consoles at that point that there was pretty much only laughing at the console versions.

The PCs were always more powerful than console save for few months after console launch. There was just a clear divide between PC and console games, especially when JPN devs dominated console titles, so there was no point arguing which was more powerful or which sold most. Nowadays most games are multiplatforms, PC exclusive devs are releasing their titles on consoles and JPN guys are warming up to PC scene, so obviously the choice has shifted from what games you want to play to how you want to play it and how much money you're ready to spend for it.

Just my 2 cents
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Am I the only one legit confused at how people could get salty / upset at a gaming platform doing well in sales?

Like that is healthy for the industry, and guarantee's us future support for our hobby.

They're upset that the filthy peasants don't prefer their platform of choice and won't embrace Steam and based GabeM&M's
 
I love how people buy a console for just one game and refuse to build a pc for hundreds of fantastic exclusives where everyone finds something for their taste.
Bloodborne looks like one of the first really good outstanding games for the PS4 and the only valid purchase reason for a PS4 but it's just one game...
All other exclusive are A. multiform games (no question, even cheap pc's do a better job than any console) B. time exclusive (a bit later in a better and cheaper and often more version on pc) or C. just "ok" games for an unreasonable price.

Stop being fanboys and open your eyes, being loyal to a brand without comparing with other products is just stupid.
If there is something way better, offers overall a better way to play everything than play there and currently it's almost always the pc version (sometimes, like in SF IV, they fuck up something like online and won't fix it, it's still playable but there way less players too choose from than on 360).
I know a few crazy JRPG fans (mainly Souls and Persona) than I get it why they bought a console but they did that because they did not have a other choice, everything else they play on their pc.
Console is like fast food, cheaply made and doesn't need much effort and can get you fed up but taking some time preparing your own meal is just generally better.
Nobody bats an eye if you play on consoles but if you talk literally trash without any facts or evidence it helps no one.

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For gaming purposes, I can think of 3 uses of the word "salt":
  1. Salt (the chemical NaCl) as a substance in human tears.
  2. Rubbing salt [in a wound], presumably inflicted during some kind of console warring battle, to cause additional pain and prevent healing.
  3. Salting [the earth], to "destroy the fertility of land" or to make statement one thinks definitively ends an argument, rightfully or wrongfully.
Thus:
"Salty" ends up a common adjective to describe an emotional state, often jealousy.
"Giving salt" to encourage to continue a misguided argument; 'Would you like some more salt with that post?'
"Taste salt" as a verb to describe the action of consuming one's tears as future insult and suggest that the victim will continue to produce tears for some time.
"Salted" as an administrative action to end discussion on a matter; ie close a thread or change its OP and/or title to add further conditions. (This is common on Wikipedia; When an article gets deleted it can be "salted" from later re-creation)

Am I missing anything? This could warrant additional research. With more highly-anticipated console-exclusive games coming out in 2015 and obvious future sales milestones to meet we are bound to repeat this process many times over in the near future. Well, repeat it more frequently? We're very early in the year and months from E3, even!
Oh, and TIL that the world "salary" has its origins in the word "salt"! Silly Romans.
 
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