also introduced me to punk and ska, so thanks ameridigimon
And this alone justifies Ameridigimon forever.
Hey digimon hey digimon
also introduced me to punk and ska, so thanks ameridigimon
Adventure being a TV show is a bit wonky, but it's also such a non-issue for me and I feel it helped better tie together a lot of the Tamers style of story and themes. While I think Tamers is easily the best season, there are WAAAAY bigger issues I have with it like how Kazu, Kenta, and Ryo work into the story as tamers. If you guys want to talk completely pointless, unnecessary, weird fanservice pandering, and adding pretty much nothing to the story, it's freakin Ryo in a nutshell.
why do people like hey digimon
Like preference is one thing, but that's just rough.
why do people like hey digimon
Like preference is one thing, but that's just rough.
Because they do? Rough to you is amazing to another.
CHAMPIONS UUHVV THE DIGITAL WERLD
why do people like hey digimon
Like preference is one thing, but that's just rough.
Head Writer Chiaki J. Konaka's early notes on Tamers said:- As cards, as games, and as toys, the characters of Digimon are deeply recognized by children.- Children's interaction with the network via the internet and cel phones should be close to reality.* We will not touch on the animated series "Digimon Adventures", or the manga comic series in the magazines at the beginning of the story.* However, the characters of "Digimon Adventures" seasons 1 and 2, whom children loved, will be the heroes of the children in their series, like mentors and idols. When the series has begun to turn, there may be some value in letting them appear.
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- I have thought about introducing digimon, even characters from Season 1 and 2. The children in the audience would be very happy to see characters they recognize make another appearance, and at the same time we could make a strong impact on one of the concepts of the third season, that fiction, in the form of the Network (Digital World) is invading reality.
Head Writer Chiaki J. Konaka's later notes on Tamers said:Digimon Tamers is created as a totally separate series from the previous two seasons. However, as I wrote in my early notes, I created the world view of Digimon Tamers as one that includes "Digimon Adventures" (Digimon Seasons 1 and 2).
When Takato announces to Guilmon that he is a tamer, he puts on a pair of goggles, the iconic symbol of the main characters from Digimon Seasons 1 and 2. This was my manifesto for the unique world view of Digimon Tamers.
However, this was something that was necessary to show the children in real world (already familiar with the Digimon series) the line between reality and fiction. I felt that it would not be in the best interests of Digimon fans *or* the children now enjoying Digimon Tamers if these characters interacted with the world of Digimon Adventures, or with the characters from the previous series. (I am told that when the series began, many fans wished for links to the two previous seasons of Digimon. However, I believe that it is dishonest and unfair for writers to give in to these requests as"fan service".)
Head Writer Chiaki J. Konaka's later notes on Tamers said:My conundrum came when Takato, who adores all things Digimon and loves Guilmon more than anyone in the world, gives in to the weakness and confusion within him to make Guilmon digivolve into a horrifying form. Something very powerful was needed to guide Takato to the proper path to digivolution.
What could give Takato this strong impact? Who else but the main character of Digimon, Tai, and his partner Agumon?
Chiaki J. Konaka's later notes on Tamers said:When creating the rough structure of the middle section of the series, I put forth this idea.
A huge debate ensued between myself and the producer, the director, and the many other staff members. The one thing that we all believed was that we wanted to choose whichever path would make "Digimon Tamers" a better dramatic series. My conundrum had the unexpected result of allowing me to confirm that all our hearts were as one on this issue.
We were unable to come to a conclusion through committee, and so I took it upon myself to come up with an answer. Thus, episode 35 ("Give A Little Bit") was created. Part of what helped me decide that the episode would work was some words of advice from Mr. Hiroyuki Kakudou, who was series director for the first season of Digimon, as well as the director for this episode.
Episode 35 said:Takato: I'm data too... Since I'm in the Digital World... But... the time I spent with Guilmon was completely real. The feelings we shared were real...
Guilmon Voice Over:That's right Takato. We'll always be friends!
Takato: Guilmon!!! S-so many Guilmon... No! My Guilmon is the only one! No matter how much his data has multiplied, Guilmon... the Guilmon that was with me...
Takato: Thanks for being here Guilmon.
flintlock's analysis of Episode 35 said:They don't explicitly say Digimon Adventures exists in Tamers, but it is heavily implied, so there's no real doubt in my mind that Adventures is the anime in Tamers anymore. It's too obvious. I actually mentioned this in my first post in this thread but I didn't realize that it was the episode Konaka talked about. I'm not sure I would have ever caught this as a kid if I didn't watch the dub. Episode 35 is the episode after Leomon dies at the hands of Bleezebumon, and Takato goes into a fit of rage and Guilmon evolves into Megidramon. After Megidramon is knocked unconscious Bleezebumon fires bullets at Takato and we see a few symbolic scenes inside his head. He looks at a toy of an Agumon and smiles. He starts colouring his Guilmon sketch and cries. He comes to the realization that despite being data his experiences are real and there is only one Guilmon. And of course this triggers their ultimate evolution to Dukemon. It's metafictional on a few levels. You can replace most of his angst about Guilmon being simply data as being a cartoon character. He's telling the viewers that their experiences with Digimon are real despite being a cartoon that is enjoyed by millions of other kids, that's why there are so many Guilmon in that scene.
Takato in Xros Wars 78 said:It's so cool, being able to see those two (Taichi and Daisuke) side by side.
Digimon Adventure PSP said:Taichi: Yep! I'm Taichi Yagami, and this is Agumon!
Agumon: Nice to meet ya~
Takato: Taichi Yagami?! Agumon?!
Taichi: ?? Something wrong?
Takato: Not really... but you have the same name as a famous Tamer.
Guilmon: Hey Agumon, Takato is big fan of your Tamer.
Takato: Guilmon, shhhhhhh!
Taichi: Hm?
Takato: W-We were just talking. Hahaha....
...
Guilmon: Hey, Takato?
Takato: What's up, Guilmon?
Guilmon: Why are you keeping it a secret we've seen Taichi and Agumon before?
Takato: Do you think they'd believe me if I said that?
Guilmon: Yep!
Takato: If I said that, I think I'd just confuse them.
Guilmon: Think so?
Takato: If I told them that Digimon was super popular in our world, they'd
be super shocked.
Takato: Besides, I'm happy enough just adventuring with someone I admire.
Taichi: Oi! Takato!
Takato: Yes, Taichi?!
Taichi: Break's over, we're leaving!
Takato: Alright, we're coming!
Takato: The kids back at school are never going to believe this.
Guilmon: Takato, you look really happy!
Takato: Remember, this is a secret, boy.
Guilmon: Kay!
...
Takato: I see... Well then, Taichi, can you do me one favor?
Taichi: A favor? What is it?
Takato: Can you shake my hand?!
Taichi: Wha-
Takato: Please! I'm begging you!
Taichi: Well... Okay.
(Handshake occurs)
Takato: WOWWIE! I SHOOK YOUR HAND! THANKS SO MUCH!
Guilmon: Good for you, Takato.
Taichi: Don't know what that was about, but I'm glad I could help!
I was actually aware of both the PSP games dialogue and the Xros Wars stuff. Didn't know about the other stuff, thanks for sharing.
Nice post. This clarifies some things but I still don't see how they could explain one reality being a TV show in another reality.I'm not going to quote everybody, there's far too many, but the idea that Adventure isn't in the Japanese version of Tamers is WRONG.
Source for Konaka
However as time went on Konaka decided against doing a complete crossover, as he thought it would be nothing but "fan service" and he didn't want that.
At what point Konaka decided this, was probably during production of the Tamers movie "The Adventurers Battle" and the results of which can still be seen.
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But then Konaka ran into a problem. He did not want to do a crossover but he wanted to maintain the element of Adventure in the Tamers universe. So how could he reference things, without obviously referencing things, so it would still be there, but subtlety?
Episode 35
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However, the thing about subtlety is that it isn't always picked up on. That's why in the years since Tamers, Toei and Bandai have made it much more obvious.
And all of this is why the Japanese fanbase, who knows nothing of the English dub or any other dub and could care less, makes fanart like this.
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http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1364988
Nice post. This clarifies some things but I still don't see how they could explain one reality being a TV show in another reality.
this... feels complicatingI'm not going to quote everybody, there's far too many, but the idea that Adventure isn't in the Japanese version of Tamers is WRONG.
Source for Konaka
However as time went on Konaka decided against doing a complete crossover, as he thought it would be nothing but "fan service" and he didn't want that.
At what point Konaka decided this, was probably during production of the Tamers movie "The Adventurers Battle" and the results of which can still be seen.
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But then Konaka ran into a problem. He did not want to do a crossover but he wanted to maintain the element of Adventure in the Tamers universe. So how could he reference things, without obviously referencing things, so it would still be there, but subtlety?
Episode 35
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Source for flintlock
However, the thing about subtlety is that it isn't always picked up on. That's why in the years since Tamers, Toei and Bandai have made it much more obvious.
And all of this is why the Japanese fanbase, who knows nothing of the English dub or any other dub and could care less, makes fanart like this.
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http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1364988
hyp'twow....now this is more like it. Actually like the designs here.
The nostalgia ;___;
I'm honestly not even sure what to expect. Going over the staff list not a single writer or episode director seems to be returning for Tri and the art is completely different.
At least they will have the theme song but I feel that this will be quite a big departure from the original in every way possible.
It's perhaps concerning (especially given that the director doesn't exactly have a great history), although it's not like a lot of the people responsible for the originals have been pretty active lately. Hiroyuki Kakudou hasn't directed a show in years and years, and even his episode directing credits have been pretty slim lately. He might not have been an ideal choice to return as a series director, even if he was responsible for the original. I'd like it if he could at least direct one episode, though.
As of right now, all we know is the main director and head writer. I would guess there's a decent chance of us getting some returning episode writers or directors, if nothing else.
Tonally it will probably be a departure, but you can't catch lightning in a bottle twice. It's most important that they try to create a good show which can hit on the right notes from the original while also doing its own thing.
I'm not going to quote everybody, there's far too many, but the idea that Adventure isn't in the Japanese version of Tamers is WRONG.
Source for Konaka
However as time went on Konaka decided against doing a complete crossover, as he thought it would be nothing but "fan service" and he didn't want that.
At what point Konaka decided this, was probably during production of the Tamers movie "The Adventurers Battle" and the results of which can still be seen.
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But then Konaka ran into a problem. He did not want to do a crossover but he wanted to maintain the element of Adventure in the Tamers universe. So how could he reference things, without obviously referencing things, so it would still be there, but subtlety?
Episode 35
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Source for flintlock
However, the thing about subtlety is that it isn't always picked up on. That's why in the years since Tamers, Toei and Bandai have made it much more obvious.
And all of this is why the Japanese fanbase, who knows nothing of the English dub or any other dub and could care less, makes fanart like this.
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http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1364988
I'm honestly not even sure what to expect. Going over the staff list not a single writer or episode director seems to be returning for Tri and the art is completely different.
At least they will have the theme song but I feel that this will be quite a big departure from the original in every way possible.
Japanese Name -> English Name
Digimon Savers -> Digimon Data Squad
Daimon -> Damon
Chika -> Kristy
Masaru -> Marcus
Suguru -> Spencer
Sayuri -> Sarah
Piyomon -> Biyomon
Tohma -> Thomas
Yoshino -> Yoshi (technically not a name change, just a nickname added in the EN version
Ikuto -> Keenan
Satsuma -> Sampson
So my GEM figures finally came in the mail.
Looks like mine had no issues with putting them together, but I didn't face-swap or anything . Not sure how I feel about Picodevimon though![]()
Did Tailmon's tail come off when putting her together? Because if not then what in the fucking fuck.
I literally barely touched her tail, just tried to put her on the stand and then suddenly it fell off and I couldn't put it back in without it falling. (I can see how the face swapping might have hurt the Takeru figure but I can't see how Tailmon's tail came off so easily and wouldn't go back in)
Nope, nothing like that. I took extra care with putting them together because of your issues, but no random appendages popping off.
Hmmm I wonder if Amiami can do replacements?
Only if I can prove it's a manufacturing fault which I can't. :/
I think we all should keep our expectations lowHmm that director really is worrying me. After having seen Katanagatari, one of the few well regarded titles of his, I'm afraid to say that i found the direcionar in that series fairly week. There was so much dialog with completely dull, medium/long profile shots of people talking to each other. (don't know the actual term for these shots) Just a complete visual bore.
Although he did not storyboard all episodes and perhaps the ones he did were the better ones? Can't be bothered to check though.
I think we all should keep our expectations low
I can't pick if Frontier or XW being the underrated season.
I think we all should keep our expectations low
Yeah, there's no real new information in the scan, unfortunately. The right text talks about the new key visual, and how the grown-up kids and the weathered rail car give a sense of the passage of time. The bottom left box talks about Wada Kouji and Miyazaki Ayumi and that they've been decided on as the singers for the theme song, and mentioning the other Digimon songs they've done. The bottom right box is the standard thing about the official site and how they're releasing new information on it. The very bottom talks about (in the visual) how the children are gathered in 'that nostalgic place', and something about 'why is Hikari waving her hand?', but I can't make it out clearly because of the weibo URL watermark.
Interestingly (? I'm grasping at straws, here), the verb they use to describe Tri in the big right text is 胎動(たいどう), which my dictionary defines as either 'quickening' or 'fetal movement,' so the latter could maybe point towards there being quite a bit of time left before the actual air date. Again, though, this is very very nit-picky and slight, so basically still no news on an air date. I'm personally inclined to believe it will be closer to summer since we basically haven't been getting any news at all, but I'm not really up on how these things usually work anyways.
I didn't get to watch any of the animes after season 3, I guess things got complicated with fox kids.
season 4 was, digimon frontier yeah? was that connected with tamers or is that yet another separated setting?
I didn't get to watch any of the animes after season 3, I guess things got complicated with fox kids.
season 4 was, digimon frontier yeah? was that connected with tamers or is that yet another separated setting?
I would not be surprised if this got delayed, what with how scarce info/actual shots from the anime itself have been. The optimist in me likes to think that it being delayed means that the people behind it want it to be top tier, best quality it can be. The pessimist/realist in me just points out that Toei gonna Toei.
What did toei do? Bringing it back without the original writer or director was a weird ass decision considering they're allegedly doing this for the fans. As long as it doesn't ruin adventure for me I'll be satisfied I guess.I would not be surprised if this got delayed, what with how scarce info/actual shots from the anime itself have been. The optimist in me likes to think that it being delayed means that the people behind it want it to be top tier, best quality it can be. The pessimist/realist in me just points out that Toei gonna Toei.