BLOODBORNE Spoiler Thread (read OP)

koshunter said:
You had to farm for grass in Demon Souls too. I'm not really seeing the problem with farming for vials if you need them tbh.
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Enemies don't respawn until you endure over a minute of loading to warp to the refuge and then back. That's the real problem with this. Farming is always boring but now it actually significantly eats up time you could be spending not farming.

In Demons' you could just pick warp point, kill the nearby enemies, and reset them.

edit: I'm dumb, you have to warp back and forth in Demons' too. Nonetheless, Bloodborne has unconscionably long load times where Demons' did not.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
Enemies don't respawn until you endure over a minute of loading to warp to the refuge and then back. That's the real problem with this. Farming is always boring but now it actually significantly eats up time you could be spending not farming.

In Demons' you could just pick warp point, kill the nearby enemies, and reset them.
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You'd still have to go back to the nexus for them to reset though, wouldn't you? That puts you through two loading screens like it does in Bloodborne.
 
Thee game healing going to be also balance around thinking the player will try to get back some life after the enemy hit him along with the blood vials .
I have a feeling people who play BB like turtles going to have it much harder than people who were aggressive in the other soul games.
BB combat being faster is one of the reason why i think i going to like it more than any other souls games since i always go for a fast aggressive builds in souls games.
 
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my damn hunter. just killed 2nd boss after like 10 deaths. the game is incredible.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
Yeah, you're right. I just looked it up and my memory was wrong. The load times in Demons' were a lot shorter, though.
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Hopefully they can tighten up the load times with patches along the line. I vaguely remember DS2 getting load time improvements on console via patches, so Bloodborne could presumably get similar treatment.
 
will i be drinking my own piss or not?!
 
please stop assuming that you need to farm because one random bad player from reddit (again) wrote that he had to.

first stream I watched, the guy wasn't the best player NA of Dark Souls or anything like that, still he had something like 60 vials total after the first 2 bosses. you're going to use a lot more during harder and later bosses? Sure, but chances are that when you're there you'll need 20k souls to level up and buying 20 vials will be like killing 3 enemies. plus there are other healing items in the game. I guess you could also call people to help you, "hey drop me 10 blood vials pls".

honestly I think that you need to be quite bad to actually arrive at the point where you have to constantly farm healing items, making it very annoying especially because of loading times. at that point you might as well learn how to play and do runs without a single healing item.
 
Finalow said:
please stop assuming that you need to farm because one random bad player from reddit (again) wrote that he had to.

first stream I watched, the guy wasn't the best player NA of Dark Souls or anything like that, still he had something like 60 vials total after the first 2 bosses. you're going to use a lot more during harder and later bosses? Sure, but chances are that when you're there you'll need 20k souls to level up and buying 20 vials will be like killing 3 enemies. plus there are other healing items in the game. I guess you could also call people to help you, "hey drop me 10 blood vials pls".

honestly I think that you need to be quite bad to actually arrive at the point where you have to constantly farm healing items, making it very annoying especially because of loading times. at that point you might as well learn how to play and do runs without a single healing item.
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That's fair, and I'm not worried about blood vials either. In Demon's Souls, I was running around with more grass than I could ever consume after a few hours of normal play.

On the other hand, I also like to be able to power-level in these games. In Demon's Souls, I was one of the guys who kept killing that ghost at the beginning of 4-1 over and over again, later moving on to the giant flying mantises in 4-3 and eventually the black phantom skeleton backwards in 4-2. In Dark Souls, I killed those poor NPCs in Dark Root Forest so many times. I know other players don't like to do this because they feel like they get over-leveled, but that doesn't bother me if that's what it takes to get a few extra points of Endurance or to grind out a few more levels to equip the weapon I really want to roll with.
 
BabyFaceKillah said:
Wow lol so you really cant farm like in DS1

damn now im nervous about Scholar of the First sin
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You can farm. Previous to the most recent patch you used an ascetic (which turned the area into NG+ and reset the spawn count), after the patch you just join a coveant (found in Majula for easy access) that enables infinite respawns at the cost of co-op (iirc) and increases the strength of enemies a little - you can join/quit/rejoin the covenant at any time.

Re: farming for grass in DeS - I don't think there was ever any great need to farm. Maybe on your first playthrough early on, but you soon get a stock of grass. And I expect Bloodborne to be pretty much the same. I bet they patch it down the line if there's any imbalance with price of consumables etc, that's the kind of thing that get patched in Souls. Nothing to worry about.
 
Finalow said:
please stop assuming that you need to farm because one random bad player from reddit (again) wrote that he had to.
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to add to the above, it seems most streamers i've seen don't take advantage of the regain system. someone else in this thread mentioned how they'll play it like the souls games where the player would back off when attacked and wait for another opening in lieu of going on the offensive right away to regain lost health. i think bloodborne's new systems attempt to break some fundamental habits in long-time souls players, and we're going to have to adapt to these changes.
 
Finalow said:
please stop assuming that you need to farm because one random bad player from reddit (again) wrote that he had to.

first stream I watched, the guy wasn't the best player NA of Dark Souls or anything like that, still he had something like 60 vials total after the first 2 bosses. you're going to use a lot more during harder and later bosses? Sure, but chances are that when you're there you'll need 20k souls to level up and buying 20 vials will be like killing 3 enemies. plus there are other healing items in the game. I guess you could also call people to help you, "hey drop me 10 blood vials pls".

honestly I think that you need to be quite bad to actually arrive at the point where you have to constantly farm healing items, making it very annoying especially because of loading times. at that point you might as well learn how to play and do runs without a single healing item.
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Although I was complaining about load times, I actually totally agree with this. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this guy just isn't a good player.

I almost never had to farm grass in Demons', and I attribute that to having already built some skill playing Dark Souls first. I imagine prior Souls experience will help in the same way with Bloodborne.
 
sti4thewin said:
I'll be streaming in 2 hours. I'll restart stream if I get banned too. For neogaf!
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Some tips:

1. Stream on Ustream not Twitch
2. Don't include anything related to Bloodborne in the stream title
3. Don't post the link anywhere, either PM it to people or hide it in email tags
4. If you get banned - keep making new accounts!!
 
PM PLEASE!!!
 
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