Hibiki Kurosawa
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With the characters reacting like that, it has me hoping that moments like that, with in context, is done more for humour rather than just sleazy for the sake of it.
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Illusory Revelations#FE (SMTxFE) - First Trailer, Winter 2015 [Up: Screenshots]
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With the characters reacting like that, it has me hoping that moments like that, with in context, is done more for humour rather than just sleazy for the sake of it.
Not being particularly interested in SMT proper or FE previously, this trailer certainly gets my attention. I just enjoy modern settings more than historical, but can understand some of the reactions of long time fans of both series.
I'll probably be looking for a Wii U sometime before the end of the year, and this is just another game to add to the list of things to look forward to.
Also, understanding where Persona is as a series now if I were to interpret this as a trailer for a Persona game I'd be pretty disappointed.
I'll probably be looking for a Wii U sometime before the end of the year, and this is just another game to add to the list of things to look forward to.
Also, understanding where Persona is as a series now if I were to interpret this as a trailer for a Persona game I'd be pretty disappointed.
LaunchpadMcQ
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I think this the gif that people should be taking away. Like the producer said, this trailer didn't really capture the Fire Emblem aspect of the game, and it probably didn't capture the darker themes that we'd expect from SMT either. All we got was a trailer that showed off some cool cutscenes and combat, that there's going to be fanservice, and the theme song is a catchy J-Pop tune. It's not much to go on, really; plus, I've seen way more misleading trailers. This gif specifically reminds me of Nocturne, looking out on Tokyo as its destroyed, and that's what's really getting me excited.
This. It's an interesting contrast with the real world setting. Which is a big thing when it came to SMT 4. This is why I'm not getting some of the complaining here. Even when it came to Soul Hackers on the 3DS there is a contrast. What that contrast should be is up to the developers I guess. What's important is that it is there. That contrast is in various anime these days as well so just because you have a JPOP song playing doesn't mean the game's themes and content won't be dark. It easily could be.
Also isn't the SMT/Persona, etc franchises the same ones that have an overly perverted animal character while at the same time have a game with kids where they have to shot themselves in the head in order to do battle? A game where you can be sucked into a virtual world. In the same game you have a girl in a maid outfit that helps with your demon combing. Plenty of busty female characters all over the place (even the demons). Fire Emblem is also the series where within the same game you have knights in heavy arm, magic users, and also dancers, dragons that look like little girls barely dressed, a pegasus rider that is also a shy klutz, a cute merchant that is a badass in combat.
Are people not paying attention at all to the content of these past games? I'm not seeing anything in this trailer that hasn't been in either franchise and that's what limited experience.
Since these are RPGs, as RPG fans (JRPG fans in this case) one should be understandable that there is more to an game then what you see at first glance or what is first shown off. We should be more willing to take a wait and see approach before losing out minds or flying off the handle. So part of me wants to even question if some people complaining are doing so just to complain and never had any interest to begin with and see a bandwagon to jump on.
Those reactions combined with the girl's confident look and pose tell something went really wrong with the transformation.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Yep! That's my favourite part of the trailer. That and the coloured silhouettes. I really like those coloured silhouettes.
A really stylish way not to bother doing models for NPCs.
It's like one of my japanese animes.
Oh, sure, I didn't even think of that. That's likely what's going on there.
Japanese bloggers also seem to be confused as to what kind of game this is. Most reactions are that it lacks any definite ties to FE or SMT, the J-Pop idol theme, and how it looks like a Persona. Some also thinks it should be classified as a new iP altogether.
In other words, the same reactions as Gaffers.
In other words, the same reactions as Gaffers.
Yeah, 2ch seems to have had pretty much the same reactions as everyone else. Feedback here isn't an isolated "this is NeoGAF" thing.
I mean, even the producer knew that this PV would go against people's expectations.
Jawmuncher
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I feel people are grasping on the broken city scene far too much. It could literally just be "That's the old world, you can see it but you can't go over there".
Reactions on IGN seem be to be generally positive.
TheSlySoul
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I mostly just need to see more before feeling something.
The 5 seconds of combat we saw looked nice, but it was only 5 seconds.
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/l...nsei-fire-emblem-crossover-project.454439042/
A spectrum, just like we have here and everywhere else. The point is that reactions are mixed, as opposed to being overall positive (e.g. Persona 5) or overall negative.
Jawmuncher
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Going by youtube it's seems to be generally positive as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fS24IxelBA
More of a gap on the JP page but still more so positive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKaHMqkjGS8
If there were strong feelings against more so I would think the youtube pages would show it.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Well, combo attacks and turn order stuff has me excited.
Hmm didn't see any of that last night. They must have come in this morning.
TharpDaddy
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That'd actually be a pretty interesting idea and would allow for a lot of ties to FE games.
Aressa
You can't die before your death
Yeah, I'm okay with this if its done in the context of the story otherwise I don't like it.
I love the theme, the more Persona influence the better but the problem is I'm not big fan of strategy battle system.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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By strategy battle system do you mean FE?
The_Darkest_Red
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I loved Persona 4, loved SMT IV, and consider Fire Emblem one of my absolute favorite series'. As weird as this looks I feel like it would be hard for them to do me wrong.
I hope the battle system draws a lot of inspiration from FE.
I hope the battle system draws a lot of inspiration from FE.
Which one? And in which time zone?
The_Darkest_Red
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To me it looks like Persona with a little FE sprinkled in.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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It's just you. You are the only one.
Kingpin Rogers
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I really hope this game isn't censored
ChasingComets
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But that's exactly the thing. Show me this without context and I wouldn't have associated it with Fire Emblem or SMT immediately. I won't be able to shake this weirdness unless they show more of what makes it part of the heritage. Not just talking about references and places, but the gameplay and the story/themes. Modern-supernatural alone doesn't an SMT make, and you can't convince me of the FE heritage because there's Pegasus riders and Tiki.
I guess I still was expecting a FE-styled SRPG with SMT elements.
That hard to check? All of them are at around 5:30 PM PDT, which was around 2 hours after the trailer was revealed.
Not necessarily the same people behind each of these, however. The producer for this project was behind Devil Survivor.
Aressa
You can't die before your death
Yeah, or that what I thought because Intelligent Systems it's going to be a strategy? right?
What about it? It still didn't sell remotely as many copies as Awakening or the Persona games. It was also decisively low budget with static cut-scenes and such. I don't think it was very reasonable to expect that SMT x FE would go in the classic SMT direction (and even SMTIV wasn't as dark as SMT3 and prior games).
But having a more Persona-like approach doesn't mean that it's not going to have darker themes anyway. The Persona games are also what people would call anime-ish and yet they also have more mature topics.
Best case is that the idol part of SMT x FE is just the theme of one level/dungeon of the game.
I'm in a different time zone if you scroll down you should be able to fairly quickly find my comments
most (not all) of the negative ones were posted after that.You said this:
I thought you were implying that SMT IV took the turn for a more "anime-ish" direction, which that's what you actually seem to be saying.
The only thing that gives me pause is that this isn't the SMT team, the Persona Team, or the FE team.
It's the Devil Survivor team, which I've never really been a huge fan of those games. I think the game really made sense to me once I realized who was making it.
is that a blood river/sea? :\
this gif is really different from the general trailer mood.
CentralScrutinizer
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What if this is just a SMT game with character and monster permadeath? What if that is where this persona-esque game gets its FE inspiration. Think about how different a game Persona would be if you got to play as dozens of kids from the high school class but they're permanently gone when they die. Would have amazing story and works implications.
Vincent Grayson
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I like both franchises, but regardless of how closely this adheres to one, the other, or both/neither, that trailer got me excited and now I've got at least one more reason to keep my Wii U than just Xenoblade X.
Oh, sorry, I meant the turn SMT X FE took when comparing the first teaser and today's trailer.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Well it's Atlus developing it and the battle stuff they've shown so far doesn't imply strategy RPG. At this point we're looking at a more traditional JRPG, but that's no guarantee either, I suppose.
I think it's split both ways. I prefer Persona and I'm not a big fan of what I saw, but I'm interested for the pedigree alone.
The bolded isn't what's going on, seeing the tastes of the people reacting to this.
But, yeah, Atlus has been pretty good at going against people's expectations with game reveals lately.
Nintendo doesn't do TGS bro. Atlus isn't likely to show this off without Nintendo either. I guess it'll probably be shown off mostly in Directs.
Some generic animu shitto instead of Fire Emblem combined with that other franchise. Fuck.Yea, this is how I feel.
Bomber Bob
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ok who is really developing this game? did Atlus subsidised the development to some other random dev?