Halo 5 Guardians: #huntthetruth

Well... I mean, I get where you're coming from, but that's not how biology works; what delineates one species from another is the ability to cross-reproduce and produce viable (non-sterile) offspring. Now, AFAIK, nobody's tried, but until it's shown one way or the other, I'd say that they're certainly genetically similar enough to count as the same species.

Randall Aiken from Nightfall had a kid.
 
Yes yes. I think he's going to do amazing work for Halo 5, judging by the Halo 5 beta menu tunes.

https://youtu.be/IPT7rtxDdxM?t=1m36s

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They should just get Marty back. I mean he's free now right?

Davidge was pretty underwhelming. I think the only memorable track was by Jinnouchi so I'm glad he's back at least.
 
iirc Jinnouchi is permanent 343i staff. Davidge was doing contract work, and since we haven't heard anything I'm assuming he's not coming back.

Huh, well now I know!

The Halo 5 beta music sounds like an Olympic theme to me, at least at the start. Certainly seems fitting for multiplayer.

EDIT: Boy, that song gets good.

Yep! He's lead composer.

Here's a piece of what he's working on. It's ripped from a ViDoc, so the audio fluctuates to drown out the people talking.

I like it! Sounds pretty good when it isn't so muffled.

is there a "chosen one" prophecy for Chief...

or is it just he is called a "savior" for his amazing accomplishments...

he is the greatest soldier in terms of achievements in UNSC history

There's some weird "geas" thing going on in the Halo games now, but even with that, Master Chief isn't really portrayed as a chosen one of sorts. If anything, the one thing he has going for him is that he's incredibly lucky.

He's considered a savior due solely to his accomplishments.

They should just get Marty back. I mean he's free now right?

Davidge was pretty underwhelming. I think the only memorable track was by Jinnouchi so I'm glad he's back at least.

I suppose they could get Marty back, but that would depend on if he actually has a desire to work on Halo again. He may not have a distaste, but his choice to stay with Bungie to work on Destiny suggests that he wasn't too bothered to leave the Halo franchise to try new things.

Even if they get him back, we wouldn't hear anything from him until Halo 6.
 
Well if they're biologically, chemically, physically and psychologically different to humans then there's a pretty strong case to say that they aren't human.

The Spartan IIs were a carefully selected humans that had artificial augmentations as children. Part of that was the interface that let them pair with the AIs the UNSC developed for their military operations. This is a direct parallel to the "Gaes" the Forerunner used for learning/cultural passage historically.

I assure you, they're human.
 
Well if they're biologically, chemically, physically and psychologically different to humans then there's a pretty strong case to say that they aren't human.
But its not like their DNA was actually altered... and really when you look at it biologically; that's all that matters. You look at the DNA and look at the Chromosomes, if they can reproduce then they are a part of the same breed of species.

All the Augmentations did was bolster what was already there, not completely rewrite the DNA, something which would be nearly impossible, even for the UNSC if starting from the Age of 6... the Spartans would have had to have been made in test tubes for that.

Well sex drive isn't the same as fertility, or even sexual pleasure. So they could still be capable of having children. Though from a Halseyan perspective, that "side-effect" would help divert libido towards more productive uses, rather thanreproductive ;)
Look, I'm sure if the chief really wanted to, he could pop one and take all the people which would throw themselves at him... Its just killing aliens and saving the galaxy is alot of fucking work... I wouldn't be surprised if he would rather nap between missions
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But also this

Yep! He's lead composer.

Here's a piece of what he's working on. It's ripped from a ViDoc, so the audio fluctuates to drown out the people talking.

Dem chills at 1:15...

Halo 5: Guardians Soundtrack SAMPLE:
Sounds amazing. Its interesting that they are going for a "Busy Newsroom" feel for it though... It's almost as if the game will be about ignoring what ONI is telling the press to find the truth behind everything.
I wonder if we can pull anything out of the News in the background of the track. I feel it has to be important
 
Halo 4's OST had a few standout moments, but I don't think time will be kind to it. The quality of that Halo 5 "sample" is so bad I refuse to even think about it, just wait for a proper release.
 
Halo 4's OST had a few standout moments, but I don't think time will be kind to it. The quality of that Halo 5 "sample" is so bad I refuse to even think about it, just wait for a proper release.

I can't help myself haha. While Halo 4's OST was nowhere close to what Marty has done (aside from the two tracks that Jinnouchi did- he's the real deal, yo), these low quality and ripped-from-menus-and-trailers bits that we can currently listen to have me pumped.

I mean, just skip to 1:34...

Halo 5: Guardians OST Sample:

...those thirty odd seconds or so right there is better than the entire Halo 4 OST haha. What we've heard from Jinnouchi's composition so far has been nothing short of good feels with epic scope. He's not Marty...

Sounds as generic as the Halo 4 stuff...

#HireMarty

...but he might be damn close. It needs to be let go of. Marty is more than likely not coming back to Halo, not for Halo 5 anyway. If anything I would assume that Jinnouchi is being give his shot at taking Halo's music on, and where they go from beyond Halo 5 will depend on how he does. It's time to move on from Marty already haha. If he comes back, hey cool, but if he doesn't, it looks like it's already in very capable hands.

Sounds amazing. Its interesting that they are going for a "Busy Newsroom" feel for it though... It's almost as if the game will be about ignoring what ONI is telling the press to find the truth behind everything.

I wonder if we can pull anything out of the News in the background of the track. I feel it has to be important

The voices in that track are just 343 devs talking about the Halo 5 MP beta in the original ViDoc. Here's where it was taken from:

Halo 5: Guardians Beta - First Look ViDoc (2014):
 
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Still, those samples show that Kazuma still knows a few things.

I'm looking forward to playing ODST again. Dat. Jazzy. Score.

But yeah Jinnouchi seems, so far, to "get it" as far as what a Halo game needs and should have. Obviously we can't know for sure until we get to hear some officially released tracks.
 
So much better than I expected.

Nothing will never be as good as Marty, it's time to move on...

No its not. Simply get a new and maybe better composer. From what i know, Marty still isnt hired by any game studio.

And it IMO would be for the better.


Jinnouchi composed Halo 4's best track, 117: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74rxB6BmTvA.

There is nothing special in this generic military tunes... i dont get the praise for it.

And the Halo 5 stuff so far sounded as boring and generic as the Halo 4 score. Still not hearing any Halo in this tracks.
 
If they can bring Marty back, you'll see no complaints here. But if not, Jinnouchi will do great, and already is. Seriously. Give the guy a chance.
 
Uh no.

What exactly in this track is so special? Could be a track for any other game.

For example, this is a Halo track
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNVGpOoC4yw

This gives feelings in combinations with that cutscene from Halo 3? Awesome.

I disagree; 117 really does feel like a Halo track to me. It's not as strong as one of Marty's but a lot of that is just down to usage. It wasn't featured as prominently in a game we're all nostalgic for, and it got buried overall in the sound mixing.
 
I disagree; 117 really does feel like a Halo track to me. It's not as strong as one of Marty's but a lot of that is just down to usage. It wasn't featured as prominently in a game we're all nostalgic for, and it got buried overall in the sound mixing.

There are some truly impressive tracks on the Halo 4 OST, but it was either mixed poorly into the game itself or the audio was so low you miss it or don't pay attention to it.

Overall, it wasn't anywhere close to previous OSTs but select tracks certainly come close... Mainly, the ones Jinnouchi did.
 
Uh no.

What exactly in this track is so special? Could be a track for any other game.

For example, this is a Halo track
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNVGpOoC4yw

This gives feelings in combinations with that cutscene from Halo 3? Awesome.
I agree. Halo 4 OST was meh and nothing really Halo about it.

The only track that had a Halo-ish vibe to it was Requiem imo. Though Halo 5 OST, going by those samples, is shaping up to be "more Halo" than 4.



EDIT: The day Kazuma does a track on the same level as Ghosts of Reach is the day I start loving him as I love Marty.
 
I think my issue with Halo 4's music is that it's too overreaching and busy. The best Halo tracks have in my mind had fewer instruments at play and a clearer melody. Drums were more often used as the main instrument, and not as a backer.

I think Halo 5 will do better, so it'll be interesting to hear the results. Hopefully we can actually hear it.
 
See above. But...

Tl;dr:

Mendicant Bias was behind what started the Human-Covenant War.

Mendicant Bias was behind causing Master Chief and Cortana to end up adrift in space and on a collision path with Requiem, while the Arbiter was sent back to Earth.

Mendicant Bias is seeking atonement for his previous sins, and his plan, while in a fragmented state, has been to bring humanity to the Ark and to send the Reclaimer to awaken the Ur-Didact, who was supposed to come out of his Cryptum having recanted his prejudice and hate against humanity, but because the firing of the Halos severed the Domain, it left the Ur-Didact to rot with his own inner turmoil for a millenia in his Cryptum, and he emerged unchanged.

And this was something that Bungie had started all the way back between Halo 2 and 3, and 343i expanded it and kept it going. It's one of the most longest running plot spines in the entire Halo franchise, and it's going to be pretty cool once it comes to fruition.

So MB is turning over a new leaf?
 
So MB is turning over a new leaf?

Yep.
He turned a new leaf before being buried on the Ark by the IsoDidact. His final word to him was "ATONEMENT". And since then, his various shards have been working in congruence to rectify his past sins, by literally manipulating a good chunk of the events that stretch back to Halo 2 and come forward to the very present time.
 
Nothing will never be as good as Marty, it's time to move on...

I don't know about this, except destiny's main theme. I found the music average. So we can't really say he would have or can do better job than Halo 4. I thought Halo 4 music was great.
 
I don't know about this, except destiny's main theme. I found the music average. So we can't really say he would have or can do better job than Halo 4. I thought Halo 4 music was great.

Destiny's music has some good bits, but it is mostly very, very bland, and ultimately very forgettable.

I can think of so many Halo songs from the previous games and hum them to myself. After the 1300 literal hours I put it into Destiny, I can't recall a single track even if you held a gun to my head and demanded it.
 
Do you guys think they will start E3 with this like 2012 or they will show COD first?

Destiny's music has some good bits, but it is mostly very, very bland, and ultimately very forgettable.

I can think of so many Halo songs from the previous games and hum them to myself. After the 1300 literal hours I put it into Destiny, I couldn't recall a single track even if you held am gun to my head and demanded it.

yes, precisely. Not sure why everyone is going crazy over Marty. I mean he is no doubt a great composer. But that doesn't by default make he the best for anything he will do. Can't really predict if he was doing Halo 5 would have been better etc. etc.
 
Do you guys think they will start E3 with this like 2012 or they will show COD first?



yes, precisely. Not sure why everyone is going crazy over Marty. I mean he is no doubt a great composer. But that doesn't by default make he the best for anything he will do. Can't really predict if he was doing Halo 5 would have been better etc. etc.

Gonna close with Halo, I reckon. Keep people watching the whole show.
 
Gonna close with Halo, I reckon. Keep people watching the whole show.

I'd assume the same. Call of Duty is always a solid opener. Who knows, maybe we'll see some Gears also. But Halo will definitely be the highlight of the entire presser for Microsoft. They've got a lot to cover. Single player. Multiplayer. ODST. The new Halo TV show. Other potential surprises.
 
No its not. Simply get a new and maybe better composer.

Even Marty fell off the rails though. He hit his peak at Halo 3. Halo 3 ODST was excellent, but it wasn't as good as Halo 3's. Halo Reach had some high points but was more or less a forgettable soundtrack.

And then there's destiny... Ooof.

I'm not sure if bringing him back would be the right move. If it were still the Halo 3 days, then hell yeah, but currently... I dunno. Seems like he lost some of his mojo.

I like new and fresh voices. Jinnouchi is feeling pretty new and fresh right now.
 
I'd assume the same. Call of Duty is always a solid opener. Who knows, maybe we'll see some Gears also. But Halo will definitely be the highlight of the entire presser for Microsoft. They've got a lot to cover. Single player. Multiplayer. ODST. The new Halo TV show. Other potential surprises.

15-20min show dedicated on just Halo related stuff. I WOULD NOT MIND at all Microsoft :P give me give me give me
 
I've listened to the Halo 4 soundtrack and it's much better than hearing it in the game, maybe not instantly recitable like Marty's Halo stuff, it does fall into could be anything movie soundtrack at times. The game mix absolutely destroys it, hopefully they've learned from that.
 
Im really liking the Halo 5 soundtrack. There is like 5 or 6 tracks that play if you sit on the beta title screen. Its slightly different style but its right there with the old Halo OSTs, maybe even better in spots - the building horns bit from the end of the multiplayer reveal video is incredible. So grand.
 
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