Jay Shadow
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That looks younger than when the fake was put into place. While on the topic though I'd love for Ciri to visit Cintra sometime to meet "herself"
Witcher 3: Official Gameplay Trailer
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Yeah I've been kind of hinging an upgrade decision on this game but with Batman being the only really demanding looking game on the horizon it's a bit hard to justify.
The PS4 version is appealing to me for some convenience benefits but hopefully it won't be too large of a gap between versions on high settings. Ultra is another story.
cripterion
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After downloading the gamersyde HQ footage, I gotta say aesthetically, it blows everything that's out there imo. (except for Star Citizen but that game isn't nearly done)
jim2point0
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Personally, I prefer these aesthetics. Though I tend to like fantasy RPGs moreso than Sci-Fi.
I hope I'm overestimating how much difference a fixed platform + unfettered access to the hardware makes but I'd rather not raise false hopes. It's not a secret GK104 is not very strong at GPU compute which is GCN's forte. I imagine (just like any multiplat) The Witcher 3 uses a good amount of GPU compute and that could tip the balance in the PS4's favor if you compare it to a 670 or even a 770.
We have not seen what those consoles are truly capable of yet. What about async compute for instance ? If this is enhances performance as much as AMD claim then GPUs which don't support it will perhaps struggle even though they are stronger in other departments.
Unity is a different running on a different engine. Results could be totally different.
I'm not disputing that you can get better results with hardware which no longer fits into what we would call "high-end" but that's not my point, what I believe is that for multiplats which push the hardware you will need more GPU (and much more CPU power) to achieve similar results as consoles which don't have to deal with abstraction layers. I err on the side of caution, maybe too much but I would feel bad for inducing false hope to someone who might base his purchase on what I believe.
This is speculation, at the risk of repeating myself.
RadioHammer500
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can i ask what will make the PC version better then the PS4 version...sorry i dont know alot about PC gaming
ScepticMatt
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I feel foliage received an upgrade compared to other recent gameplay trailers.
I also like the use of color there, cherry-picked or not.
WetTreeLeaf
Neo Member
Without getting into graphics or performance; mods usually make everything better.
It's not the best that I've seen
Clearly the game has undergone a shift in art direction. They aren't going for that realistic look anymore, but rather a much more colorful\vibrant look.
i guess I meant post reveal
1) We were talking about my 770, not a 670. You even said 770 in the post I quoted you in.
2) How in the world is compute power, fps, etc. opinions? These are measurable real world results?
The only place I'm trying to go with this is "what version should I buy". I see statements here that conflicted with my understanding that my PC would always play multi-plat games better than my PS4. I don't have an agenda, I'm just trying to understand where some of these comments are coming from.
Edit: This is why I really hate PC gaming sometimes.
Awesome trailer, hard to contain the hype so close to release.
ha, that's Yennefer's stuffed unicorn which Geralt shortly mentioned in "The Sword of Destiny":
Really? :lol
ha, that's Yennefer's stuffed unicorn which Geralt shortly mentioned in "The Sword of Destiny":
Denton
Member
Higher framerate, higher resolutions, higher graphical fidelity, greater customizability, more control methods, modding possibilites, cheaper price, ability to support CD Projekt directly.
WetTreeLeaf
Neo Member
Theyre both around 30 hours each. So it can be done, depending on your free time and if you actually enjoy them.
Fun fact, there are real islands called Skellig off the coast of Ireland, one has a 1200+ year old monastery on it.
And while there's no island called Ard Skellig, ard is the Irish word for "high".
I started the first one years ago. I loved the story, world, and characters, but I wasn't a huge fan of the battle system. I heard they improved it in 2, and improved it even more in 3. I'll try to get it done, because this honestly looks like everything I've wanted in a game for a long time.
Vulcano's assistant
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There are technical things like:
If you don't like an effect, you can turn it off.
You can decided by yourself if you want to sacrifice resolution/other graphical features for framerate. (or play at resolution above 1440p)
Taking full advantage of installation on a SSD.
Gameplay wise, you can choose to play with the controller of your choice, or mouse and keyboard, or something else.
AndyMoogle
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My GTX760 weeps.
Interesting. Thanks for that, I may have to look it up.
Red Dead Redemption started it and since then a bunch of open world games have copied the trailer format. It's a great way to do an overview for a big game.
nero2082
Member
reserve 1 week for each, I'm doing it right now
funnily enough I always tend to finish last game just before successor comes out, and it really amps up anticipation, really cool feeling like switching to next chapter with no downtime
Soultaker0220
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It looks spectacular
Muscle Wizard
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This looks good, though I wasn't wowed with the second game.
Where did I imply a 770 is only "marginally" superior ? I do not believe (pay attention to the words used) TW3 running on a 770 will look like a brand new game in comparison to the PS4. Like, really not at all. Reread my earlier post.
What I believe you can achieve with a 770 compared to a PS4 :
~50fps at PS4 settings
30fps with better effects (HBAO+ for one)
Those "real world results" vary depending on the workload. The paper specs are there for you to check but the actual results depend on a number of factors. We have seen games running better on a "weaker" GPU than a stronger one. Because GPU architecture are not born equal, Hitman Absolution ran better on a 280 than a 770, why is that ? Compute. Yet my 770 is stronger than a 280 on paper.
"Always" play better ? Possibly, but what hardware are we talking about ?
Specs for console-beating (or console equivalent) could rise for a number of reasons ranging from optimization, support from IHV/ISV, architecture strengthes and weaknesses etc..
This is PC gaming 101.
Second fun fact, a small part of the new Star Wars film was shot on said island.
Jay Shadow
Member
Well, they're cherry picking quotes. If they did that from Iorveth's side of Witcher 2 it would sound really hammy also.It seems like the dialogue in the game will be a lot hammier than the one in TW2.
But I don't care,it will probably make the game a lot more fun.
You can play as Ciri in short sequences, but it looks like it'll be more linear and story-oriented during those times.
Denton
Member
You play as Geralt, set character with his decades long history, and at certain moments in the story you play as Ciri, Geralt's adoptive daughter. She has her own abilities etc, but her playtime should be around 10 hours, so most time is spent as Geralt.
irrc the only female witcher is Ciri and she's a playable character in the game at a certain stage and for a certain amount of time.
Actually it does not, or I just have not found a way to do it.
At first it was really really bothering me, but after 2 hours, you do not even feel it. Just try
Skeet, skeet, skeet, skeet.
Hate to be that guy, but Ciri isn't a Witcher. Witcher trained, however.
This is probably the most insignificant gripe you can ever have with a game, but that jumping looks very unsatisfying. It reminds me of DMC which I really don't like. The arc is too constant in speed at first, and then he accelerates too quickly after the turning point; it looks like he's defying gravity.
pre order canceled
Everything you just said says "marginally better". I can get ~20 fps or more eye candy. Sounds pretty marginal.
Every game I've ever personally seen has ran better on PC than consoles, and multiple people have listed their own results. I'm not talking about on paper, I'm talking bout FPS output when playing the game.
I'd also like to see those results for Hitman. The same pc only swapping the video card ran it better on a 280? I find that incredibly hard to believe. Even if that is the case you're cherry picking. This is a PC developer porting to a console no?
Yes, always play better. My specs were listed earlier in the thread.
i7 4790k
GTX 770 4GB
When did last gen consoles ever force PC users to randomly upgrade mid cycle to outperform them? Consoles have fixed hardware, no amount of API iteration is going to randomly push consoles ahead of superior PC's during their lifespan. The PS4 has a 1.8Ghz 8 core mobile CPU, and a 7870 (giving it the benefit of the doubt) running on PC architecture. This isn't apples to oranges like last generation these are very much apples to apples comparisons. Hell the Xbox One even uses DirectX APIs.
Edit: Not trying to pick a fight, just want to buy the best version, everything considered it still sounds like that's PC.
WadiumArcadium
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Looks incredible. Can't wait to play it.
UnrealEck
Member
We can't obviously say for certainty, but here's what I'd say is a solid list:
- Smoother, higher framerate
- More control options
- Possible mods and very likely graphics mods
- Higher quality shadows, shaders, lighting, AA and so on
- Exclusive graphical features like nVidia's Gameworks library (and possibly tesselation)
- Possible to go to resolutions of 4x 1080p and maybe more
- Ultrawide/multi-monitor surround very possible
Online components are free too and the game can be bought for less on PC.
If you've just got yourself a nice new PC and it's a decent spec, I'd reccomend getting the game to play on it.
RadioHammer500
Banned
how much customization can you do to Geralt?
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Hopefully Post-Campaign we can freely switch between the two for Open World exploring like in Arkham City
Jay Shadow
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Well she still thinks of herself as one, even if she technically isn't.
Some different hairstyles and beard lengths. A lot of different armors as seen in the video.
You can take him to a barbershop and change his gear.
That's your personal interpretation, don't put words into my mouth.
20fps is not anywhere near my definition of "a world of a difference" (my actual words). But to each his own.
And I would like to stipulate that this is merely my speculation, I do not pretend to know the future.
What hardware are we talking about ? PC is mosaic.
It seems I was not crazy :
http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-performance-benchmarks/page3.html
770 is a rebadged 680.
Same case for Ryse.
The 280X which is supposedly AMD's equivalent of the 770 achieves impressive results. My 970 very rarely touch a 290 in this game, yet the former is supposedly more powerful.
I know people with superior hardware compared to consoles (8800 and Core 2 Duo) can't play games like Crysis 3 at all, because the support for those cards has been dropped, hence my :
I won't promise you 2011 hardware will be supported in 2019, either by ISV or AMD.
UnrealEck
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I think it'll do better than that.
Looking at previous titles, GTX 770 does better than a ~20 FPS increase at PS4 settings. And that's assuming PS4 will be running W3 at a solid 30 FPS.