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[Jebusman]

I'm still stuck on the concept of "hate speech restrictions".

From what I understand there is a distinction between "hate crimes" and "hate speech", which any action that leans towards speech as being protected (however much you may disagree with it).

He has the right to wear whatever shirt he wants, wherever he wants from a federal standpoint. It doesn't protect him from the criticism he receives from the public at large, nor does it stop any private business from enacting their own rules on their own property.

Really it's the public's responsibility to make sure he knows that the shirt (and by extension him) are not welcome, but extending "hate speech restrctions?" Nah.

 

[verdures]

This started a conversation about sexism at music festivals, with groups like Vice citing startling statistics about harassment at EDM events.

Man, fuck Vice. I always see Vice come up because of their extensive new media empire, targeted at a young and hip demographic, focused on "real issues". Vice was basically bottom barrel shock and troll content– Charlie Hebdo meets Weev in magazine form–and fuck if I can ever take it seriously ever again. How it became a feel-good conduit for social awareness and investigative journalism is mystifying.

 

[Foggy]

Sarcasm?

A bummer that it's even a question at this point. Of course.

 

[DrGonzo615]

Yesterday at Coachella, a grinning young dude was photographed wearing this lovely shirt:

Yeah.

I tend to be skeptical of people who think a shirt can be an attack on women, but this is pretty fucking blatant. While I hope that this guy is just an edgy fuck, and probably not an actual serial rapist, clothing like this sends an explicit message that it's okay to rape people.

 

[Jebusman]

Man, fuck Vice. I always see Vice come up because of their extensive new media empire, targeted at a young and hip demographic, focused on "real issues". Vice was basically bottom barrel shock and troll content– Charlie Hebdo meets Weev in magazine form–and fuck if I can ever take it seriously ever again. How it became a feel-good conduit for social awareness and investigative journalism is mystifying.

They saw the changing tides and jumped on it, when not many other outlets were willing. They also have a much faster turnaround on reporting these issues compared to some of the more traditional media reporting (stuff like 60 Minutes, I've seen them do stories 3 months after Vice did without much to add).

 

[Arjen]

Dumb shirt, song sucks, even dumber that the dude is now all over the Internet.

 

[Jpop]

Man, fuck Vice. I always see Vice come up because of their extensive new media empire, targeted at a young and hip demographic, focused on "real issues". Vice was basically bottom barrel shock and troll content– Charlie Hebdo meets Weev in magazine form–and fuck if I can ever take it seriously ever again. How it became a feel-good conduit for social awareness and investigative journalism is mystifying.

But they release great content now. You should be happy they do with what they do.

 

[kamineko]

ayy

The Vice article actually mentions that he was with his girlfriend, who was surprised that the reported didn't find his shirt hilarious.

Really? I missed that in the link.

*sigh* as long as there are people willing to have sex with stupid people, nothing can change.

 

[Ferrio]

Sure he doesn't mean the vegetable?

 

[DECK'ARD]

OP is a bit overboard for a shock parody:

He got his 15 minutes, I don't think he's an out and proud serial rapist.

 

[Coins]

Isn't this a wrestling shirt that's referencing what Brock Lesnar has been doing in the ring since his monster turn?

 

[Valhelm]

speech on clothing has been explicitly protected for a while, though

what a dumb dude

Oh, I didn't realize.

I'm usually not one to make this kind of argument, but there's a very slippery slope from restricting offensive statements to restricting political statements. It's incredibly easy to use these restrictions to protect nonhuman institutions

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

Oh, I didn't realize.

I'm usually not one to make this kind of argument, but there's a very slippery slope from restricting offensive statements to restricting political statements. It's incredibly easy to use these restrictions to protect nonhuman institutions

What?

 

[J10]

This is a guy I wouldn't feel bad about punching unprovoked.

 

[HiredN00bs]

it's truly a 'shane' that my post required

Spoiler

/s

for you

 

[Jburton]

Dumb t-shirt, nothing more.

 

[joelseph]

Isn't this a wrestling shirt that's referencing what Brock Lesnar has been doing in the ring since his monster turn?

Which has since been reappropriated by aging EDM producers looking to stay relevant in a dying scene.

 

[Valhelm]

Man, fuck Vice. I always see Vice come up because of their extensive new media empire, targeted at a young and hip demographic, focused on "real issues". Vice was basically bottom barrel shock and troll content– Charlie Hebdo meets Weev in magazine form–and fuck if I can ever take it seriously ever again. How it became a feel-good conduit for social awareness and investigative journalism is mystifying.

They're sensationalist as hell, but they've got a pretty broad scope and have some of the deepest Middle Eastern coverage of any media outlet. Their ISIS docs are top-notch.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

#StandUpToCoachellaGuy

 

[Lambtron]

Most rapists think everyone else are rapists who get away with it. Wearing this shirt as a "joke" just reinforces their idea that this is just what happens. It's a reinforcement of rape culture.

I'm not "offended." I just think that him thinking he's being really cute and funny is actually incredibly shitty and I'm mad that a fellow person could be so callous.

 

[entremet]

ayy

The Vice article actually mentions that he was with his girlfriend, who was surprised that the reported didn't find his shirt hilarious.

Do you actually think he's promoting rape?

He's trolling the internet and its working.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

Man, fuck Vice. I always see Vice come up because of their extensive new media empire, targeted at a young and hip demographic, focused on "real issues". Vice was basically bottom barrel shock and troll content– Charlie Hebdo meets Weev in magazine form–and fuck if I can ever take it seriously ever again. How it became a feel-good conduit for social awareness and investigative journalism is mystifying.

they use one thing to fund the other. you can find some of the dumbest clickbait articles on Vice, but they use that to make their crazy series and vids.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Makes me think of this Anna Akana video about not getting raped; imagining someone buddying up to this guy thinking he's met a fellow rapist

 

[GoldenEye 007]

I'm not sure why this is a story. Person at music festival wears dumb shirt? ok

I'm sure there are million dumb things being said, displayed, and happening at music festivals like these.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Most rapists think everyone else are rapists who get away with it. Wearing this shirt as a "joke" just reinforces their idea that this is just what happens. It's a reinforcement of rape culture.

I'm not "offended." I just think that him thinking he's being really cute and funny is actually incredibly shitty and I'm mad that a fellow person could be so callous.

Pretty much.

 

[Valhelm]

Do you actually think he's promoting rape?

He's trolling the internet and its working.

His shirt literally promotes rape, but I doubt the guy himself actually wants people to get raped.

 

[verdures]

But they release great content now. You should be happy they do with what they do.

I don't agree. The main page of their site is essentially buzzfeed with indie rock ads, weed smoking and hints of nudity. Oh wow, "We Watched the Australian Police Try to Find Owners for 1,000 Pairs of Stolen Shoes"! The title text of the site is "The Definitive Guide to Enlightening Information". There a zillion sources of news in the world, and I prefer just about anything other than to have it filtered through the lens of obnoxious (so edgy~) youth culture. Some of the Motherboard area stuff is fine, but there's still a weird sneering attitude over the whole thing that I just find gross. The good content doesn't really much make up for it for me.

On topic, though, that dude is a complete tool. I wonder about the woman he was with. Is she just an exasperated girlfriend? Or is she like Violent Acrez's wife, checking Precious Moments prices on eBay while this dude makes custom rape joke t-shirts and is just like "oh, you!"

 

[spekkeh]

Most rapists think everyone else are rapists who get away with it. Wearing this shirt as a "joke" just reinforces their idea that this is just what happens. It's a reinforcement of rape culture.

I'm not "offended." I just think that him thinking he's being really cute and funny is actually incredibly shitty and I'm mad that a fellow person could be so callous.

We're not living in a rape culture, and an absurdist play on a wellknown song is not reinforcing it.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

We're not living in a rape culture

Can you qualify this? It still seems to be a ridiculous problem.

 

[Nokagi]

Can't even understand why you'd want to wear a shirt like that. Is that really how you want the public to see you? So strange.

 

[BronsonLee]

I blame wrestling fans.

You son of a bitch

Also the shirt is a play on 'Eat, Sleep, Rave, Repeat', that goddamn song

The Lesnar shirt came after, IIRC. But yeah it's based on the EDM song

 

[andymcc]

"he's just trolling" comments are the worst. dude should be called out for being a prick- full stop.

concerts are the worst for sexist, misogynist and gropey dudes. wouldn't be surprised if he was like that.

 

[Cagey]

Which has since been reappropriated by aging EDM producers looking to stay relevant in a dying scene.

Of EDM and professional wrestling, it's not EDM that's the dying scene, friend.

 

[Valhelm]

Can you qualify this? It still seems to be a ridiculous problem.

I think a lot of the confusion about rape culture is that it's a pretty loaded phrase.

Clearly, we don't live in a culture that encourages rape. Although we handle rape cases horribly, rape is still seen as a heinous crime. But do we do live in a culture that allows rape and breeds rapists, and lets people like the Coachella douche think that his shirt is a good idea.

 

[Tesseract]

They really need to stop changing the title of Edge of Tomorrow.

dear gawt

 

[Mermandala]

Fatboy Slime.

 

[BronsonLee]

They really need to stop changing the title of Edge of Tomorrow.

This needs all the love in the world

 

[umop_3pisdn]

i saw two dudes the other day walking down the street, and one was wearing a shirt that just said, in bold white letters 'FUCK YOU'. I happened to be driving around the corner next to him after picking up my mom and popped my head out of the window and said, in a jovial manner, 'hey fuck you too!'. was pretty funny, he was definitely taken aback by it, but his friend just started laughing his ass off. my mom got scared and said, “You’re movin’ with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air.” I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought, “Nah, forget it. Yo home to Bel-Air!” I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 And I yelled to the cabby yo holmes smell ya later Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

This brings me back. Thanks for the nostalgia.

 

[finalgamer]

I'd love to see video footage of him walking around with that on.

 

[see5harp]

Man, fuck Vice. I always see Vice come up because of their extensive new media empire, targeted at a young and hip demographic, focused on "real issues". Vice was basically bottom barrel shock and troll content– Charlie Hebdo meets Weev in magazine form–and fuck if I can ever take it seriously ever again. How it became a feel-good conduit for social awareness and investigative journalism is mystifying.

I suppose if all you read was the dos and donts you might get that impression. Their magazine has always featured great long articles though about a wide variety of topics. They also review porno.

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

Most rapists think everyone else are rapists who get away with it. Wearing this shirt as a "joke" just reinforces their idea that this is just what happens. It's a reinforcement of rape culture.

What the fuck did I just read?

They really need to stop changing the title of Edge of Tomorrow.

Also, this isn't getting enough love.

 

[Tesseract]

Man, fuck Vice. I always see Vice come up because of their extensive new media empire, targeted at a young and hip demographic, focused on "real issues". Vice was basically bottom barrel shock and troll content– Charlie Hebdo meets Weev in magazine form–and fuck if I can ever take it seriously ever again. How it became a feel-good conduit for social awareness and investigative journalism is mystifying.

i like them because they investigate things moderately, letting the content speak (literally) for itself. it's the world all raw and nasty, and it's rad.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

What the fuck did I just read?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture

https://rainn.org

 

[Jburton]

What the fuck did I just read?

Utter nonsense is what you just read.

 

[entremet]

"he's just trolling" comments are the worst. dude should be called out for being a prick- full stop.

concerts are the worst for sexist, misogynist and gropey dudes. wouldn't be surprised if he was like that.

He is being called out.

Do you want him in jail?

What's the end game here?

 

[El Sloth]

This dude is a chode for wearing the shirt, but I hope the internet doesn't decide to ruin his life over it.

 

[Jburton]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture

https://rainn.org

Only a theory, not fact.

Let's not push it as such.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

He is being called out.

Do you want him in jail?

Most of the posts in here so far are just dismissing it or getting upset at the Internet outrage machine.

 

[Somnid]

I'm not even sure what that means. Is it a statement about society? Is it a personal mantra? A todo list? It's a stupid shirt but I'm not sure I can infer much else without context.

 

[andymcc]

He is being called out.

Do you want him in jail?

Did I say that?