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not familiar with the
gorilla
character...but that preview made it seem like filler?

is a
gorilla
actually one of flash's adversaries in the comics? (noob)
Grodd
is one of the Flash's arch-enemies. Second only to the Reverse Flash (in the same way Brainiac is like Superman's main villain after Luthor).

Its pretty crazy to see how successful The Flash is for the CW. It has yet to dip below something like 1.3, which is practically unheard of for a show on that network. .

To put that into perspective, anything between 0.7 and 1.0 is considered a success for them. All of their other successful shows fall within that range, with a few breaking past 1.0 on certain weeks. The Flash has yet to dip into what their other shows get on average.
It comes down to 2 things really. One, the show is really good. Two, The Flash is one of DC's most popular characters and this is the first major thing they've done with him in a long time.
 
not familiar with the
gorilla
character...but that preview made it seem like filler?

is a
gorilla
actually one of flash's adversaries in the comics? (noob)

Genius scientist with super strength and telepathic/telekinesis ability. He's no joke.
 
I'm sure it will be revealed but man it would be interesting to know
how old future Barry is when he's fighting Thawne? How long has he been the Flash? How is everything different in the "original" timeline.

he goes missing in 2024 or so, so about 9 years older than current Barry. When eobard kills wells he tells him he changes the world in 2020,so flash has likely been around for 4 years.
 
he goes missing in 2024 or so, so about 9 years older than current Barry. When eobard kills wells he tells him he changes the world in 2020,so flash has likely been around for 4 years.

yup.
I mean it might even been as little as 3 years if he ended up in a coma for 9 months when the events went down in 2020 like he did in the current timeline.
 
I want to comment how annoying and honestly stupid the "Barry is getting with his sister" comments are to me. Everyone seems to be so in tune with all the little details and nuances of the show yet bring this up all the time just glossing over the fact that Iris was Barry's childhood crush BEFORE Joe adopted him. I mean good lord it's not like they grew up together in the same house as toddlers or anything. The bottom line is i think it's pretty clear that even though he was taken in by Joe and views Joe was a father, he apparently never looked at Iris as a sister and continued crushing on her all while he grew up.
 
The Flash did better in ratings than Agents of SHIELD last night.

Thats insane/awesome.

I'd wait to see if there's adjustments but yeah, in terms of ratings Flash and AoS have been pretty damn close all season. Agents of Shield's ratings should be a lot higher, especially with how much season two has improved.

Its pretty crazy to see how successful The Flash is for the CW. It has yet to dip below something like 1.3, which is practically unheard of for a show on that network. .

To put that into perspective, anything between 0.7 and 1.0 is considered a success for them. All of their other successful shows fall within that range, with a few breaking past 1.0 on certain weeks. The Flash has yet to dip into what their other shows get on average.
I think the only new CW show which has "meh" ratings even for CW standards is Jane The Virgin but it's a great show and critical darling and now award winner so it certainly isn't going anywhere since its profile raising. Other shows have not so great ratings but the CW (or CBS/WB) are making money off them due to foreign sales and syndication deals.

I want to comment how annoying and honestly stupid the "Barry is getting with his sister" comments are to me. Everyone seems to be so in tune with all the little details and nuances of the show yet bring this up all the time just glossing over the fact that Iris was Barry's childhood crush BEFORE Joe adopted him. I mean good lord it's not like they grew up together in the same house as toddlers or anything. The bottom line is i think it's pretty clear that even though he was taken in by Joe and views Joe was a father, he apparently never looked at Iris as a sister and continued crushing on her all while he grew up.

We... Well, me and another poster, discussed it months ago, it keeps coming back up but not everyone has ignored that Barry and Iris were best friends and Barry already had a crush on her before they lived together.

he goes missing in 2024 or so, so about 9 years older than current Barry. When eobard kills wells he tells him he changes the world in 2020,so flash has likely been around for 4 years.

No need to mask that, judging from the episode it was revealed in the particle accelerator didn't have an accident in the original time line.
 
It's still fucking funny that they thought to themselves "You know who the Flash should fight? A talking Gorilla!"

I forgot where was reading it, but there was a period of time when having monkeys/apes on the covers of their books was big business for DC... why so many of them floating about

Detective Chimp
Silverback
the Ultra Humanite has an ape-like appearance

The Flash did better in ratings than Agents of SHIELD last night.

Thats insane/awesome.

I would slightly amend to note it did better in the key demo, SHIELD had overall more eyes on the show.

But it also did pretty damn well in all the key demos for males which is where they really compete.
 
I forgot where was reading it, but there was a period of time when having monkeys/apes on the covers of their books was big business for DC... why so many of them floating about

The 70s were big for primates. Planet Of The Apes, Lancelot Link Secret Chimp, Grape Ape, BJ & The Bear...goes on and on.
 
Genius scientist with super strength and telepathic/telekinesis ability. He's no joke.

Except they've been hyping him as Talking Velociraptor. They've used two Jurassic Park homages, the sewer worker getting dragged around and lifted up the corner the like the beginning of JP and from the preview vibrations in the water and Cisco strait up saying "If I hadn't seen Jurassic Park, I'd be way less scared"
 
So how accurate are nielsen ratings? Don't you have to have some kind of device to be counted? It's always seemed like it has the potential to be highly inaccurate.
 
So how accurate are nielsen ratings? Don't you have to have some kind of device to be counted? It's always seemed like it has the potential to be highly inaccurate.

For people actually watching on TV; pretty damn accurate in terms of statistical accuracy. Also, the Live Nielsen ratings are the ones that determine ad revenue, so those are the ones that matter to the network. Watching it on DVR doesn't get any revenue for the networks.
 
Really, really good episode. I'm very surprised at how good this show is.

Dat ending. Really hope that Tom Cavanagh sticks around, easily one of the best characters/villains on TV.
 
For people actually watching on TV; pretty damn accurate in terms of statistical accuracy. Also, the Live Nielsen ratings are the ones that determine ad revenue, so those are the ones that matter to the network. Watching it on DVR doesn't get any revenue for the networks.

Ok that makes sense. So it just seems the cw has less viewers than the big networks. When it was the WB didn't they have much higher viewership? I've always wondered what happened to make them shut down the WB and start CW. I just feel like as good as the rating for the flash are (by cw standards) they would've likely been higher on the WB. I don't really have a clue what I'm talking about though so just ignore me lol.
 
Ok that makes sense. So it just seems the cw has less viewers than the big networks. When it was the WB didn't they have much higher viewership? I've always wondered what happened to make them shut down the WB and start CW. I just feel like as good as the rating for the flash are (by cw standards) they would've likely been higher on the WB. I don't really have a clue what I'm talking about though so just ignore me lol.
- The CW is shown in less areas than the other channels. So it can't have as many viewers in any case.
- All the channels are attracting less viewers than they were 10 years ago.
 
- The CW is shown in less areas than the other channels. So it can't have as many viewers in any case.
- All the channels are attracting less viewers than they were 10 years ago.

Ah ok that would make sense. For as well as the flash has done I just want even more people to get a chance to see it. Hope it blows up even more when it makes it's way to netflix.
 
First thought I had.
He's gonna use the same device on Eddie that he used on Wells to transform into Eddie and then he's gonne become his own grandfather.
I'd like that.

That's so weird.
so do you think his device not only copies the looks and sounds of a person, but their DNA as well?
 
They can totally Flashpoint, it would just be a multiple episode cross-over arc. At the end it would just restore the universe to where it was before.

You know, it's interesting that we've gone a full season without so much as a mention of Joe's wife and Iris's mom. One would think that would be a bonding point between Iris and Barry. I'm half expecting them to reveal she's from the future as well or that Iris actually is.

Wells brought it up last week.

This sucks especially for those of us with zero interest in Arrow. Not a very good course of action to have one show limit the storytelling in the other.

Producers don't really care, there's an expectation you're aware of what's happening on the other shows. More crossovers are coming.
 
The only problem with that is the whole shared universe thing it has with Arrow. In order to do Flashpoint for an entire season, you would need to change both shows or else it wouldn't work.

not true.
what if lets say arrow and flash are currently in universe A.
after flashpoint arrow remains in universe A while flash moves on to universe B
and the new spin off is in universe B thus
how Sarah is in it.

you could then continue arrow without changing universes, and have cross over episodes dealing with what the events of universe A of flash would be if they didn't trigger flashpoint. Meanwhile you can use alternate universe stuff for arrow cross overs into the flash. Finally when you resolve everything you can move flash back to universe A (and have the arrow cast react to it) and leave the spin off in universe B. I mean I would assume the speed force could handle two universes existing at the same time, I'm not an expert at the speedforce though.

Flash is doing great, it doesn't need boosts from arrow to help it, if anything at this point arrow needs boosts from the flash thus they could let the shows mostly stand alone like this.
 
I've always assumed that the season finale would be a Flashpoint type thing, with the first 3 or 4 episodes of the upcoming seasons of Flash and Arrow both dealing with it and going back to normal afterwards.
 
I've always assumed that the season finale would be a Flashpoint type thing, with the first 3 or 4 episodes of the upcoming seasons of Flash and Arrow both dealing with it and going back to normal afterwards.

that's been my assumption as well. I really don't think people will be willing to put up with a season long flashpoint,
as it would likely just feel like arrow (especially if barry loses his powers.), but the flash is great because in general it doesn't feel like arrow :/
 
Three or five episodes, two or three with Flash and one or two with Arrow is kind of what I've expected, if it delays Arrow's main arc next season then all the better because they (and Flash) have plenty (and would say too many) of episodes anyway.

Wells brought it up last week.

Forgot about that but it does seem like Joe is hiding something.
 
Producers don't really care, there's an expectation you're aware of what's happening on the other shows. More crossovers are coming.

Oh, I know and I expect more crossovers. I've given Arrow a shot but I just don't like it. Right now the elements I'm missing in those episodes don't seem very important. I just hope a major storyline like Flashpoint wouldn't suffer or not happen at all due to a shared universe with multiple other shows
 
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pls
 
I agree. I have no idea how she discovered Flash = Barry from that scene.

Barry shocked her with static electricity in his hospital bed.

The Flash shocked her with static electricity in that scene.

Iris has never experienced static electricity ever before in her life.

Ergo, Barry = The Flash ;)
 
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