squidhands
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Winter Soldier is going to end up having Cap's back, Tony is fuuuuuucked.
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Except, Cap understood her motivations right from the beginning of the film -- the conversation with Maria Hill illustrated that, so he also understands when those motivations shift. Meanwhile, Tony has repeatedly done stuff behind Steve's back in the movies. Pretty much all of Tony's messes are created by Tony ... you've noticed that, right? Not so with the other heroes.
That makes him really interesting, but not really making him someone you'd go out of your way to trust, other than in a fight.
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Avengers: Age of Ultron spoilers
Excuses,
Excuses,
Ok I don't remember exactly, but
But it is still a win.
Excuses,
Iron Man was much more worried about civilians during the fight. Only at the end, just before getting KO Hulk considered the civilians.
Excuses,
Sucker punching is still punching
Ok I don't remember exactly, but
isn't banner shown as human in the quinjet afterwards? afaik hulk wasn't really calmed by the Black Widow's lullaby that time.
But it is still a win.
Tony won, period.
Things were much simpler when Domokun just kill a kitten.
#TeamStark
If only because I feel like Tony's had enough character assassination in the comics and the movies have done a great job in developing him. I'd hate to see him do a full 180 like he did in the actual Civil War comics. Age of Ultron spoilers:
If only because I feel like Tony's had enough character assassination in the comics and the movies have done a great job in developing him. I'd hate to see him do a full 180 like he did in the actual Civil War comics. Age of Ultron spoilers:
I'm generally happy that Vision was treated as a way to "undo" Tony being wrong about creating artificial intelligence. Also the fact that the world doesn't really know where Ultron stems from means I don't think the world holds any ill will towards him anymore than they did prior to the movie (which to be fair, is something people have had judging by a good deal of Avengers backlash and even backlash against Tony in the world that was shown).
Winterfang
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If this one delivers. Boy what a trilogy =)
Rickelodeon
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#teamsteve
With that guy until the end of the line
This is straight up just another Avengers movie other than in name, and it's gonna be sickkkkkk. Cap, Tony, Bucky, Falcon, my boys Spidey and Black Panther, and my new favs Wanda and Vision among many others? Sign me up.
With that guy until the end of the line
This is straight up just another Avengers movie other than in name, and it's gonna be sickkkkkk. Cap, Tony, Bucky, Falcon, my boys Spidey and Black Panther, and my new favs Wanda and Vision among many others? Sign me up.
That's how all Marvel movies should be imo. Focus one one character above the rest but still have others in on the action. Avengers just doesn't work well, what with trying to evenly split time between so many people.
Edit: Started typing my reply when the thread wasn't three pages long. Ah well.
No, you're right. It's like a symbiote but, um, a suit of armour rather than a sentient alien organism.
No, you're right. It's like a symbiote but, um, a suit of armour rather than a sentient alien organism.
Winterfang
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Funny in the comics Civil War I was team Tony, but in the movies I'm team Steve.
Aw yeah, Iron Man looking cool again, hated the IM3 suit.Bleeding Edge
A Link to the Past
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Off-topic,
If I didn't like Avengers that well, but I liked Guardians, would I get value out of Age of Ultron?
On-topic,
I never actually knew what this movie was about, I thought it was time travel, lol.
If I didn't like Avengers that well, but I liked Guardians, would I get value out of Age of Ultron?
On-topic,
I never actually knew what this movie was about, I thought it was time travel, lol.
Messypandas
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If you didn't like the 1st one I can't imagine you being anything but disappointed with this one IMO
thehypocrite
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What's the reason for them to fight? Also there's no way cap can win, he will last a second vs Iron Man
PhoncipleBone
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I know we had Zemo concept art for Winter Soldier, so I wonder if they are still using that design idea or a new one. I wanna see more Zemo concept art.
I don't think Avengers 1 and Civil War are going to be anything alike as films.
Messypandas
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No worries
I misread the post.
Messypandas
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Cool. Edited.
Coriolanus
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What character assassination? Tony's been an alcoholic shitstain from day 0.
A Link to the Past
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All right, thanks. What about the Captain America films? What are their tones? For clarity, my issue with Avengers wasn't really the writing - it was cute, funny - I just felt that the action was usually a bit mindless (for me, anyway).
WrenchNinja
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Civil War was fucking stupid in the comics too
This one is even more mindless.
The first Captain America film has a tone somewhat similar to something like the Rocketeer, quite old fashioned and campy. It has unspectacular action.
The second is more serious, like an action thriller with some espionage, drawing some elements from 70s political thrillers. It's got great action, probably the best of the MCU (cinema wise, Daredevil has the best overall) so far.
Maximus.
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Felt the comic ending was anti-climatic.
torre_avenue
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But, with the cast announced in this film, how the hell is this going to play out?
You got Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye,
, and the Falcon. Is the
going to be prominent here, with Scarlet Witch being here?
You got Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye,
Baron Zemo
New Avengers group formed in AoU
MagicWithEarvin
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Why are they gonna fight
Messypandas
Member
Because Downey is getting 5 times as much as Evans to be in a Cap film.
bananafactory
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Uncertain in the movies as of yet, but based on the events of Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron, it seems Cap is in favour of protecting people when the need arises whereas Tony is more...proactive...in terms of surveillance and eliminating threats before they can become a problem.
So it's kind of like control vs individual freedom. That's been my takeaway, anyway. I could be wrong.
Why the spoilers? We have known for a while that Baron Zemo will be in this movie.
BTW, it was just confirmed yesterday that Rhodey/WM and Gral. Thunderbolt Ross will be there too.
Exactly the themes that The Winter Soldier brought to the table. HYDRA seems in line with Stark, as long as what project Insight was.
If you didn't like the 1st because its first 1/3rd is a complete drag on repeat viewings, its plot is paper thin, and its villain sucks as a villain, then you might like AoU
E the Shaggy
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The government institutes a "Super Hero Registration Act" which means, in a nutshell, if you have powers, you have to use them for the government. If you have a secret identity, you have to reveal it to the government and be on their payroll, otherwise you go to jail.
Tony agrees with the Act as a measure to control super powers while Cap sees it as an encroachment of peoples' freedoms. The two fight, putting together their own teams of heroes who agree with their sides.
StalkerUKCG
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Hulk was dominating that fight, The rupulsors did nothing to him, He took the best Stark could give in the repeated face punch and the prison. Hulk was just ripping him apart regardless. Veronica is going to run out of parts sooner or later and Hulk wasn't even slowing down. Remember a key trait of hulk is the longer he fights the harder he is to stop. By throwing more hulkbuster together as they fight Stark is just making the end result worse. Once windows effects wore off Hulk realized what was happening and a part of him or banner decided to stop. Tony didn't knock him out of hulk. If that was a possibility it would be happening more often. Hulk was calming down and Stark hit him anyway.
Not going to argue that but Civil War was the moment he went passed the moral event horizon, simply because even though he had a reasonable viewpoint, Cap was literally not allowed to be wrong.
Besides that, the point being more that the movies have done a better job in making Tony a character who develops for the better, and me just generally hoping that there's actually some validation for legitimate conflict in this movie.
Sorcerer
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How are they going to end this?
I know Evans said he was quitting acting to direct and then backtracked.
Witch would lead to the inevitable conclusion if he leaves after his Marvel contract is up.
But if Evans is staying with Marvel, I am puzzled.
I guess they could change the ending but that seems piss poor.
I know Evans said he was quitting acting to direct and then backtracked.
Witch would lead to the inevitable conclusion if he leaves after his Marvel contract is up.
But if Evans is staying with Marvel, I am puzzled.
I guess they could change the ending but that seems piss poor.
ChosenPredator
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Im with black panther too 
RocketRacoon
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Looks hype really.
People who don't like the Identity Story, it's obviously going to change.
Age of Ultron Spoilers
Also to the people who complain that the movie will make Tony look bad, don't dare read the books then. He literally gets called Judas.
People who don't like the Identity Story, it's obviously going to change.
Age of Ultron Spoilers
AoU is about Tony Stark creating a robot that kills thousands of people behind the Avengers back. In turn it's about the Avengers doing bad shit behind everyones back. So when the Feds come knocking and want the Avengers to be more regulated, and for Tony to take responsibility for Ultron, that is where the split will occur. There won't be any Hulk since he's taking a break, these things have been set up pretty clearly.
Also to the people who complain that the movie will make Tony look bad, don't dare read the books then. He literally gets called Judas.
ChosenPredator
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I await for the moment spider man is the reason it stops when they unmask him and he's a 15 year old kid.
Not a comic book person but I'm liking Captain America in the movies so far.
But wouldn't it be a fairly one-sided fight? Not quite batman vs superman but still, iron man should just be able to fly cap into space and asphyxiate him or drop him to his death.
Will it just be a bunch of posturing, some fancy fighting and then a third act realisation that they are all on the same team really, then go off and kick the real antagonist's ass?
But wouldn't it be a fairly one-sided fight? Not quite batman vs superman but still, iron man should just be able to fly cap into space and asphyxiate him or drop him to his death.
Will it just be a bunch of posturing, some fancy fighting and then a third act realisation that they are all on the same team really, then go off and kick the real antagonist's ass?
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