EdibleKnife
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He stands for freedom for the citizens primarily.
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He stands for freedom for the citizens primarily.
FunkyDealer
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In his right hand.
Laughing Banana
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Which one is stronger, Spiderman or Captain America?
darkhunger
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He stands for America's values of liberty and justice, not for laws made by politicians, corrupt or incompetent or otherwise.
ArtHands
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I think it will be the biggest superhero film until the next Avengers actually.
Spiderman
I know that, I was just joshing a bit. Cap usually has his shield out and ready to absorb the impact. In the panel he has it strapped to his back like a backpack...which always cracked me up at how the straps seem to grow and shrink as needed (which I thought was cool how they did it in the movies).
So, will we get this scene in the film, or a variation on it?
I really hope they find a way to get SOME version of this speech in the movie.
it'd be even sweeter if they used a teenage Peter Parker as the catalyst for it, just like in the comics.
EXACTLY.
i loved the civil war saga.
In fact, this saga made me appreciate Captain America even more, while at the same time simultaneously pissing me off about the character assassination of Tony Stark.
i have always been interested in national politics from a 'morality' POV, and it was interesting to see what the 'marvel' opinion was on personal freedoms VS. national safety -which is really what the conflict between iron man & captain america was about.
"If you love this country, take it back from those who would destroy it."
Winterfang
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I just want the movie to make people switch sides between Tony and Steve. And ends with a shocker.
Shuggananas
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"steve is kill"
"no"
But America's values were written by politicians..
i have to disagree with the implication here.
a law on it's own, written by any politician, doesn't automatically constitute a country's values. in order for it to do so, that specific law needs to be accepted and integrated into the moral fibre of it's citizen -only then does it become part of a nations 'values', imo.
"truth, justice, and the american way", as cringe-worthy & outdated as it sounds, is still at the centre of your country's perceived values… despite all the efforts from various politicians, lobbyists to act in a manner that is otherwise.
Entryhazard
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Please don't mix up Steve Rogers with U.S. Agent
Winterfang
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Captain America costume is so dumb in the comics.
i have to disagree with the implication here.
a law on it's own, written by any politician, doesn't automatically constitute a country's values. in order for it to do so, that specific law needs to be accepted and integrated into the moral fibre of it's citizen -only then does it become part of a nations 'values', imo.
"truth, justice, and the american way", as cringe-worthy & outdated as it sounds, is still at the centre of your country's perceived values despite all the efforts from various politicians, lobbyists to act in a manner that is otherwise.
well put. Fair enough.
I love the idea of this movie, but whether it'll have the space or balls to explore them enough, I'm doubtful.
GraceflAnger
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It's being directed by the Russo brothers, same two that directed Winter Soldier. I'd expect Civil War to have the same tone as Winter Soldier, hopefully a little darker.
I doubt that the film has that much in common with Millar's crossover other than the name and general premise (Avengers fighting each other).
They should kill off Tony Stark in this or Infinity War Pt 1. RDJ has to be pretty close to calling it quits by this point, and it would mix up the formula a bit.
They should kill off Tony Stark in this or Infinity War Pt 1. RDJ has to be pretty close to calling it quits by this point, and it would mix up the formula a bit.
When the government has doing shit wrong, Cap has told them numerous times to go fuck them selves. They either stripped him of his title and shield
and he just went by "The Captain:
Or said fuck it all took a whole new identity. "Nomad"
Don't know why folks think he is a walking talking propaganda piece.
TheDarkKnight774
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I'm so disappointed that they are hijacking The Winter soldier sequel with this nonsense. I want more a continuation of Brubakers run with Falcon, Black Widow, Cap, Bucky, etc. throw in the return of red skull
But no..we gotta do a movie interpretation of a disappointing marvel event.
But no..we gotta do a movie interpretation of a disappointing marvel event.
Spider-Man is stronger but Captain America has more experience, plus he isn't above killing should it come to that.
Captain America would never kill someone like Spider-man though.
I think the premise will be much more about registration as a policy than Avengers fighting each other. I've expressed this before, and I know a lot of people don't agree, but I don't think this is a movie about heroes fighting each other in brawls like the comic was. Yes, Iron Man and Captain America will probably fight at the end, that's what they're marketing everything around, but Iron Man isn't going to be the main bad guy.
I think It'll end up being pretty similar to Winter Soldier, where Winter Soldier does fight Captain America, but he was simply being controlled by the "real bad guys" aka Hydra. In this case, I think the registration act is going to be something the Hydra remnants take advantage of, and Baron Zemo and Crossbones will be pulling the strings to turn all the heroes against each over, creating the big rift between Tony Stark and Steven Rogers, and they won't realize it until it is too late.
As far as it being a Captain America movie, I think that makes the most sense. Also worth noting that in the comics, during the Civil War arc, the Captain America book itself was more about Red Skull planning the mechanisms leaving up to Captain America's assassination, rather than Civil War itself. They could be using inspiration from that. Baron Zemo was also involved in a story arc later on where he "exposed" Bucky's role as the Winter Soldier to the world to put him on trial. It would be interesting if they fused these storylines, and made it about Zemo exposing that Bucky killed Tony Stark's parents, and Steve Rogers deciding to defend him.
RDJ has stated before that he's gonna ride the super hero wave to the shore. Basically, he's gonna stick around for a while. Likewise, Chris Evans still wants to play Cap for as long as possible, but that'll be the only role he does while he focuses on directing in everything that's not Marvel.
I totally forgot about WS killing Stark's parents; that would be a more plausible plot and cause for a rift between Steve and Tony.
And Cap said something like "I kinda deserved that"
Good guy Steve yada yada
Well didn't Spidey punch Cap in the face when the latter failed to tell him that Flash is the current Venom?
And Cap said something like "I kinda deserved that"
Good guy Steve yada yada
Spiderman once ripped a woman's face off because he was angry. Steve got lucky
Movie Steve seems to be stronger than regular 616 Steve, but people underestimate how strong Spider-man is.
Marvel properties are attracted to social or political commentary, from war profiteering (Iron Man) to surveillance (Winter Soldier) to racism (X-Men). They will not pass up Civil War haha.
Actually I say they are about even. Cap does beat up a lot goons, but when it comes time to flex he has held his own. He has dropped Mr.Hyde with one shot, held his own against the Apocalypse Twins(he got hit with time acid, acid that burns in the future, past, and present, and was like bitch please), taken out ballistic missiles with a shield throw, just to name a few.
Yeah folks tend to forget Spidey is strong as fuck.
I still have no idea how Spiderman was being depicted as an underdog for so long.
He is magnitudes above Steve in strength class, incredibly fast and durable, plus a genius intellect. He shouldn't even be poor. If I worked as a recruiter in Avenger's office, I would send fruit baskets and PS4 to his doorstep.
EchoChamber
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Spiderman but cap haz Moar freedoms though.
More_Badass
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Wait, what?
Messypandas
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Compared to Thor or Hyperion, Spider-man is still pretty low-level, but he is probably the most powerful of the street level characters. People like Luke Cage might be faster/more durable, but no one else has as complete a package as Spidey in that scene.
More_Badass
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darkhunger
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Spider-Man was actually recruited by the Avengers multiple times over the years, but he always said he prefer to work alone and declined. Bendis changed that part of his character.
A better look at Iron Man's Bleeding Edge armor (Mark 46?) in Civil War from Umberto:
https://instagram.com/p/2TPoQ4DpgP/
https://instagram.com/p/2TPoQ4DpgP/
For a long time everyone could be on an avenger's team but spiderman. He tried once, back when Avengers got 2k a week salary. But he found out he would need to show his real name for tax purposes and so he dipped.
Kraven's family was killing everyone vaguely spider related and they killed his brother and Spider Woman. So Spiderman put on his black suit and started fucking up their shit.
And coincidentally, the Avengers became the biggest team in comics for over a decade when Spider-man and Wolverine joined.
And made Luke Cage a major player. Bendis forever has a free pass for that.
A better look at Iron Man's Bleeding Edge armor (Mark 46?) in Civil War from Umberto:
https://instagram.com/p/2TPoQ4DpgP/
I get a genuine kick out of seeing how the armour has improved and changed from Iron Man 1.
More_Badass
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AoU spoilers:A better look at Iron Man's Bleeding Edge armor in Civil War from Umberto:
https://instagram.com/p/2TPoQ4DpgP/
Cho's comment about Tony's suits being outdated and the synthetic tissue tech
George Oscar Bluth II
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A better look at Iron Man's Bleeding Edge armor (Mark 46?) in Civil War from Umberto:
https://instagram.com/p/2TPoQ4DpgP/
Again: Oh sweet baby Jesus.
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Cap is the ideals of America, not the laws.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. Metal and skin synthesizing? Stark gonna be all over this shit.
A better look at Iron Man's Bleeding Edge armor (Mark 46?) in Civil War from Umberto:
https://instagram.com/p/2TPoQ4DpgP/
Very cool. I'm kind of waiting for them to change up the helmet a bit more. For as much as the armor has changed since IM1, the helmet has more or less looked the same.
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