Heavy Xbone price reduction [promotional price cut that never went back up] and game bundling is to be thanked for that.
Math. How does it work?
Ratios can change even if PS4 is selling better.
PS4 reaches 2m sales in the UK
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Heavy Xbone price reduction [promotional price cut that never went back up] and game bundling is to be thanked for that.
Math. How does it work?
Seems really resonable. I truly believe that sales ratio is now 2:1 WW in PS4 favor ( 22+ mil. )
Microsoft Chad
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That means both consoles are doing better than the PS2 so far.
Ps2 is the highest selling console in the UK correct?
Ps2 is the highest selling console in the UK correct?
Actually, it's more like 1.9:1 than it is to 2:1. Still, the PS4 should easily extend the gap to 2:1 when the price drop goes live.
Triggerhappytel
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Math. How does it work?Ratios can change even if PS4 is selling better.
The ratio can't decrease if the PS4 is selling better though... right?! If the gap is closing between the two surely that implies the Xbone must be selling better? I have just got back from a long drive+meeting so I'm not feeling particularly lucid right now.
How did you reach that conclusion?
/scratch head
Quick check on Amazon.fr
Hourly Top 100:
Ctrl-F PS4: 3 SKUs
Ctrl-F XB1: 1 SKU, well behind 2 PS4 SKUs
Month of April top 100:
Ctrl-F PS4: 4 SKUs (including the Batman pre order special ed)
Ctrl-F XB1: 1 SKU, behind all 4 PS4 skus
Conclusion: PS4 is still selling in France, even if only on Amazon
/s if not obvious
Yes, it can. The ratio will get smaller if PS4 still is outselling the XB1, but by less than it outsold it before.
theprodigy
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why? UK:US ratio went up a bunch from before, France/Germany:US is basically the same as before
1 million:666k=1.5
2 million:1.5 million=1.33
gap got bigger, ratio got smaller
Sorry, I don't get this post. Can you please rephrase it?
Microsoft Chad
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I think he's saying the ratio in the UK and U.S. went down and it's the same in France and germany?
Don't quote me on that.
theprodigy
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you're implying that the US:world ratio for XBO has gone up, yet the UK has increased its relative share vs the US while France/Germany are roughly the same
...I'm comparing end of 2013 to whatever the latest post-holiday 2014 update was, that's already there
Oh, that's what you meant. Anyway, remember all those insane XB1 deals in last year's holiday. I reckon that increased the US:ROTW gap to something closer to 70:30 for a while. Of course I'm just speculating.
ethomaz
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Brazil official market will be really low... most sales come from Gray Market... officially it is possible Xbone to be ahead but in the Gray Market I have my doubts because both machine costs the same.
I know at launch (November/December 2013) that at Sta. Efigência the guys selling PS4 and Xbone that I asked said to me PS4 was selling like 10:1 and they are getting sold out of PS4s too fast while Xbone have piles of consoles to sell.
Anecdotal from the biggest gray market place in São Paulo at launch months.
Triggerhappytel
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Great, now let's have another generation like the PS2's, please.
Pretty please?
I'm shocked (and at the same time, not shocked) at just how aggressive Spencer has been with the prices.
Not that they can afford to fall further behind, but a $350 CAD Xbone + MCC + BF:Hardline is pretty bonkers compared to PS4 at $450 + The Last of Us.
Welfare
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All these deals are retailers doing it, not MS.
krypt0nian
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Welcome, hookers and blow to be served at tea time.
cripterion
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How do people come up with this stuff?
Appreciate the smartass replies but I'm currently in charge of promoting them in a famous supermarket chain and we had the amazing sales of 0 over the last weekend.
I don't doubt people still buy them online but you were in my shoes you would be less laughing seeing the fucking stock of PS4's and Vitas unsold, despite the current promo.
GHG
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Maybe it says more about your marketing and promotional skills rather than then product then?
Psycho_Mantis
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cripterion
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Welfare
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What about the One?
cripterion
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Yeah, it's easy for the dude to talk shit when he doesn't have a clue about the current situation.
It's not selling either, priced at 349€. Both consoles aren't selling much in that store.
It's flying off the shelves.
Psycho_Mantis
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cripterion
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Poor wording on my part. What I meant was I'm wondering how well they sell in french stores considering the poor sales in my shop. Better?
krypt0nian
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Yup, everyone who wanted one got one. Jesus fuck...
Saint of Killers
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I keep reading thread title as Peaches 2m before automatically correcting myself.
Peaches > XB1/PS4
Peaches > XB1/PS4
I wouldn't be surprised if what you're saying isn't far from the truth.
PS4 is in need of a price-cut; they've been adamant on that launch price.
Perhaps Sony is just waiting for better timing in announcing a price-cut, in hopes of bolstering sales momentum.
Just before the holiday season is probably when that announcement will happen.
cripterion
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It was poor wording form my part, clearly I'm talking about my own experience.
This is the PS4 pack we have to push and there's basically no box showing it's available in store. It's priced at 449€ and if you have the shop's store you get 20€ credited back on your account.
The PS4 is on demo but it's not even connected to internet and so got just old demos of NHL15, FIFA15, Trials Fusion, FEZ, Thief.
Store is huge, it's a hypermarket and most people coming in are here to do grocery shopping so it's not like a person's going to drop 500€ on a whim, no matter how kids want one bad. Funny thing is I still saw people buying PSP's.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Another confirmed gaffer that does not live in France.
Mass_Pincup
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Oh the PS4 sell well enough, just go to the St Lazare's FNAC any day of the week and you will most likely see someone buying one.
KennyLinder
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There has certainly been a bit of a turn around in the UK since 360/PS3. Everyone I know who has a current gen console went PS4, a fair few of them were switchers to PlayStation. I only know 4 people with an Xbox One. Two of them have both systems, one has a partner at Microsoft and another bought one cause his brother was getting one (who then changed his mind and got a PS4 ouch!).
The reality though, is that they're probably pretty close over here. Xbox One is advertised during big shows like Game of Thrones so MS aren't sitting about. They were even advertising Halo 5 the other day.
The reality though, is that they're probably pretty close over here. Xbox One is advertised during big shows like Game of Thrones so MS aren't sitting about. They were even advertising Halo 5 the other day.
cripterion
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I'm in a Carrefour in 77, it's countryside out here.
Which is?
Cthulhu_Steev
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Do you work in a towel shop?
cripterion
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PS4 + 3 games : LBP3, Driveclub and The Last of US priced at 449 (20 credit back if you own the store's card).
Yea, that seems like a terrible combination for selling consoles: country side + located in a hypermarket + high price.
You're spot on in assuming no parent will drop that much cash on a whim given the location and price of current gen console(s).
The PSP still selling is pretty amusing though lol
Welfare
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Oh good luck selling that.
cripterion
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Sure, try selling products to people that think 90euros is too much for a console.
Honestly it's not about the games. People are just damn cheap (that frequent the store) and the timing just isn't right but that's my opinion. I'm sure the situation is much better in Micromania (the equivalent of Gamestop).
Thing is I got word that it was like that in all the supermarkets with this promotion. Sales being bad last weekend, a new promo came in, now it's the PS4/PS TV or PS4/The Order + a Dualshock 4 for 399€.