PS4 reaches 2m sales in the UK
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The Abominable Snowman
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I still haven't jumped in to this gen yet. I'm happy when I hear about how well the two consoles are doing!
Unknown Soldier
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These people are the proverbial fish in a barrel
krypt0nian
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They are truly like bug zapper topics.
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RSVP now for the 25mil party
BYOSalt
Is this an automatic ban if they do it? lol
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I thought the salt mines would already have that covered?
To be honest though, that map would be kind of awesome for a Souls game.
Bl@de
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New Miyazaki game based on "Journey to the Center of the Earth". Explore vast underground areas similar to the salt mine picture. End game is in the center - similar to Ash lake but larger scope and different art design of course.
Believe!
John Bender
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You want an excel list with all games which are currently available on the PS4?
You know, "PS4", the console which has the most games this gen.
Seriously, grow up, or do that stuff on twitter.
There used to be something similar for the UK - ELSPA sales awards - but they stopped publishing that ages ago unfortunately.
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New Miyazaki game based on "Journey to the Center of the Earth". Explore vast underground areas similar to the salt mine picture. End game is in the center - similar to Ash lake but larger scope and different art design of course.
Believe!
A Jules Verne style Souls game would be pretty neat.
Microsoft Chad
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We are talking about SCEA not SCEE. SCEE in the UK has been competitive pretty much all the time.
ethomaz
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1.7m is too high perhaps not possible with PS4 at 2m.
The gap between them have to be bigger than the September gap (330k) because PS4 sold more in Nov + Dec combined and sold more in 2015.
My personal estimate is 1.6m for Xbone... more than that seems not possible unless PS4 is close to 2.1m instead 2.0m.
panda-zebra
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Yep. 1.5:1 ratio at 1m, giving 1,000,000 vs :666,667, a lead of 333,333 at the start of September (as Destiny released).
October I can find nothing.
November we know xbone outsold ps4 as it reached its own 1m sales, but as ethomaz said, we also know that ps4 out-sold xbone in December by a margin that more than offset November's xbone win.
So at this point the gap is larger than 333,333 unless October produced unexpected results we somehow never heard about (unlikely). Since then we know this about the ps4 from MCV "The machine is currently the best-selling UK games console for 2015 so far." so again, that gap has to be even wider during the following 4 months.
So suggestions of 1.7m xbox one sales are too high. If the ps4's wins since then were minimal and very close, 1.66m would be the very highest xbone could be, but more likely it's somewhere between 1.5m and 1.6m as ps4 touches 2.0m.
MrNyarlathotep
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Melchiah
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How often is the latter said here compared to the former?
I only rounded to the nearest 100k, so in that case 1.66m = 1.7m. 1.5x was also rounded, it could have been 1.45x which would give a little bit more leeway. If XB1 was only between 1.5m and 1.6m then that would mean that PS4+XB1 sold less than 100k combined across March & April, which is really low, especially as it includes Easter. But I really don't see much point in debating whether it's at 1.6m or 1.7m as we don't have accurate enough data to know whether it's above or below 1.65m.
Microsoft Chad
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Well as of RIGHT NOW May 6th the Xbox One is probably at 1.7, PS4 2.1+ million.
Welfare
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Sony passed 2 million this past weekend. It's not at 2.1m today.
Boombloxer
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FTFY
Wii U has more games people want to play. People just don't want to buy a Nintendo console.
Edit: Actually I was thinking exclusives. With multiplats included, yeah there are more PS4 games people want to play.
Does anyone actually say the WiiU has no games? I doubt that.
Boombloxer
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Exactly, which is the whole point. You look at the entire library.
Microsoft Chad
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Oh well nvm then.
LegendofDragoonLives
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That must be why they're getting killed in software sales compared to PS4. It all makes sense.
panda-zebra
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Neuromancer
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Yeah that's not actually a thing.
shadowsdarknes
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Straw man?
Straw man.
theprodigy
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Par for the course considering the poster.
MrNyarlathotep
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"Its only for Nintendo games" is basically the same thing.
No.
We know what a console with literally the lowest possible software support that is still sellable looks like; it is the WiiU.
We know that the PS4 is the de facto choice of support for third parties.
The fact that entering its second year on the market their total software libraries are ballpark equal, with a sizable amount of the PS4s total software library not requiring a PS4 to play, and the sales it has had makes asking what software is driving those hardware sales a legitimate question.
It is certainly not a question whose very nature is SO OFFENSIVE TO EVEN CONSIDER that a mob must demand bannings of all who dare suppose it.
EDIT:
Presupposed question response:
"But the WiiU has been out for a year longer, you can't compare" -> That's (more than) a year with moribund software support. It really didn't gain anything from it.
lol wut?
Sure, but Wii U was released in 2012.
Also, don't understand why you even bring that to this thread, because I didn't see anyone mentioned Wii U here.
MrNyarlathotep
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As above; that a console that has been labelled "nintendo games only" since basically launch still has a comparable sized software library to the console that everyone is supporting surely begs the question what software is driving those adoption rates?
Ok. But I still don't understand why you bring "Nintendo" here. And how this related to PS4 sales in the UK?
MrNyarlathotep
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Its related to people demanding that any people asking what software is driving those sales should be banned.
EDIT: because some people might use that as a troll, but surely in a sales age topic legitimate discussions about sales shouldn't be automatically assumed to be console warz, and surely this is a topic to discuss things more than "wow, congrats sony, kazfaceonrandommoviescene.gif"
Microsoft Chad
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No because the Wii U came out in 2012, it's had like a 30% game increase since mid 2014, both consoles not the Wii u will be double the Wii U's numbers buy the end of the year or withing 8 months probably.
Welfare
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Gonna have to ask this. How many of those were released before 2014? After 2014?
Yep, I'd say closer to 30%, basically sales outside of the USA and UK aren't really worth mentioning to be honest.
These two regions are the only two that matter for Microsoft and they're still getting outsold by the PS4. The difference isn't that much when you just focus on these two markets.
But when you focus on the rest of the world you see that the PS4 is miles ahead due to the fact it sells outside the US and UK as well (and leads there).
MrNyarlathotep
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I'm not talking about WiiU hardware sales as anything other than as a corollary as to what a console with a small library and a resultingly small sales looks like.
I'm saying that a console that has been on life support for well over 2 years has a comparably sized library to the industries golden child begs the question; what are the games driving those hardware sales?
Thats not an anti-Sony troll, and it shouldn't have people demanding blood.
The two machines have comparably sized libraries. One sells like shit, the other doesn't.
why?
Its why I linked the source.
shadowsdarknes
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Wii U has no games is not a noteworthy trend.
However, critiques of the Wii U are leveled because the system ultimately has limited appeal. It misses out on key genres. If you're not big into Nintendo's offerings, then choices are limited. If you aren't a fan of one of their games, you may have to end up waiting months for another notable release.
But in general, "Wii U has no games" is not a common theme.
"PS4 has no games" is just from a bunch of butt hurt fanboys downplaying the system's strong sales.
However, critiques of the Wii U are leveled because the system ultimately has limited appeal. It misses out on key genres. If you're not big into Nintendo's offerings, then choices are limited. If you aren't a fan of one of their games, you may have to end up waiting months for another notable release.
But in general, "Wii U has no games" is not a common theme.
"PS4 has no games" is just from a bunch of butt hurt fanboys downplaying the system's strong sales.
MrNyarlathotep
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But - honestly - isn't that also the case with the PS4? (and indeed the Xbone)
There is a scarcity of games actually being released across the board.
We've seen insane software droughts so far this gen. The DOA WiiU really shouldn't still have a similar sized software library to the PS4, when Nintendo are the only people regularly putting out WiiU titles.
shadowsdarknes
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The gap is only going to widen.
But look at how this conversation started.
Someone asked what games are all these people playing on their PS4s?
Obviously a backhanded comment at the system's library. Its not hard to look at some sales data and see what people have been playing.
The poster was not trying to have a fruitful discussion about the games driving sales of the PS4.
People started calling the poster out. And then you come in with this Wii U no games discussion for no real good reason.
The flow of events does not make sense.
But look at how this conversation started.
Someone asked what games are all these people playing on their PS4s?
Obviously a backhanded comment at the system's library. Its not hard to look at some sales data and see what people have been playing.
The poster was not trying to have a fruitful discussion about the games driving sales of the PS4.
People started calling the poster out. And then you come in with this Wii U no games discussion for no real good reason.
The flow of events does not make sense.
MrNyarlathotep
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He totally was though, and people jumped down his throat anyway.
Not at all.
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Except that he did jack shit to convey the message that he wanted a civil discussion until after people jumped on him.
That he was even arguing with me on my recommendations gives me the impression that he has zero inclination of learning from his mistakes
There isn't a scarcity though is there? You say the Wii U has more games over a longer period - sure - but that means more PS4 games are getting released per month?
And why are you just assuming library size is the defining factor? Nintendo misses out on Destiny, Dragon Age, Far Cry and going forward things like Batman, The Witcher etc
It's not a long stretch to suggest that people buying the PS4 want those games is it?
No kidding. The gamefaqs level trolling is just sad.