for me this game allows me to have more fun than the other games, basically because a match won't last that much and because it is more difficult to have a snowballed champion killing all 5 team memers because someone feed them
Heroes of the Storm is the Smash Bros. of MOBAs
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for me this game allows me to have more fun than the other games, basically because a match won't last that much and because it is more difficult to have a snowballed champion killing all 5 team memers because someone feed them
Also, this thread was a mistake and will just bring in assholes
Of course it will, it's a moba thread.
Askherserenity
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Yeah, I guess a lot of people are going to have a problem with that. Hasn't bugged me yet. I haven't spent any money on it and I was able to get three of the heroes I wanted to play as the most. You get pretty good amount of heroes for free on rotation and I probably have enough in game currency to buy a couple more heroes. I've just been saving them up I guess.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I have a feeling that lots of people will say HoTS is shit because they have a lot of time and money invested into LoL or DOTA2.
Basically downplay the competition in an effort to maintain the userbase in the system they are invested in.
Blizzard is doing some good things with HoTS, The champs are a little expensive atm though.
Basically downplay the competition in an effort to maintain the userbase in the system they are invested in.
Blizzard is doing some good things with HoTS, The champs are a little expensive atm though.
More like Mario Party. Smash has depth
the game ahs deep, but in a different way, as I told before, the real strategy comes from gaining control of the map gimmicks instead of rushing to destroy buildings, and it can also lead to awesome comebacks
theprodigy
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drotahorror
Member
Played maybe 10 full games of it. It's solid and I would play it over LoL or Dota2 but..
SMITE.
top down view and clicking everything is lame compared to aiming with a mouse and using wasd for movement.
SMITE.
top down view and clicking everything is lame compared to aiming with a mouse and using wasd for movement.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
If Smite's visuals weren't absolutely terrible, I could get into it more. The aesthetics of it are just too janky for my taste.
It's the only game of this kind I ever considered to play for more than a few games because I didn't care about them.
It does have Blizzard's usual production values, meaning you get top notch voice acting among other things, competition is TERRIBLE here. Graphics and model details are actually pretty good too, the game can be pretty demanding unlike the competition and doesn't look very good on lower settings though.
Cast coming from the most popular all time favorite games, easily recognizable, they are unique and have their established lore behind them, they even comment on it in the game when characters from same universe are in a team, this will help them easily pull their fans here. Versus nameless dota2 heroes that are all generic rip off of Warcraft characters, they didn't even bother to come up with proper names for them... it's all generic. LoL is better in this aspect IIRC but I haven't touched that in ages.
The community so far in the beta are really nice mostly, they might whine, but they are not plain hostile. I hope those toxic people stay in those mentioned games and don't come over here ever.
It's been fun, hope it does well when it launches. They need to work on their match making a LOT though.
It does have Blizzard's usual production values, meaning you get top notch voice acting among other things, competition is TERRIBLE here. Graphics and model details are actually pretty good too, the game can be pretty demanding unlike the competition and doesn't look very good on lower settings though.
Cast coming from the most popular all time favorite games, easily recognizable, they are unique and have their established lore behind them, they even comment on it in the game when characters from same universe are in a team, this will help them easily pull their fans here. Versus nameless dota2 heroes that are all generic rip off of Warcraft characters, they didn't even bother to come up with proper names for them... it's all generic. LoL is better in this aspect IIRC but I haven't touched that in ages.
The community so far in the beta are really nice mostly, they might whine, but they are not plain hostile. I hope those toxic people stay in those mentioned games and don't come over here ever.
It's been fun, hope it does well when it launches. They need to work on their match making a LOT though.
SteveWinwood
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no
smash isnt mind numbidly boring
also people care about smash bros and it's characters
smash isnt mind numbidly boring
also people care about smash bros and it's characters
For what its worth this is coming from someone who plays a LOT of League (around 1500+ games on my profile) I got into the Alpha for HotS and it was alot of fun for a while, but i still find myself saying "League does ____ better" and then wanting to migrate to that...
HotS is fun, dont get me wrong, I just personally feel like League is a little better in almost every way, but thats just my opinion...
And for what its worth im also a huge fighting game player, mainly play Street fighter, Motal Kombat, and various Anime fighters... i cant stand smash... so take that as you will.
HotS is fun, dont get me wrong, I just personally feel like League is a little better in almost every way, but thats just my opinion...
And for what its worth im also a huge fighting game player, mainly play Street fighter, Motal Kombat, and various Anime fighters... i cant stand smash... so take that as you will.
Leafhopper
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Aren't you bolstering OP's point then? People play HotS because of the Blizzard characters you know.
thisisvlad
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Tried the beta. Game wasn't for me. Went right back to D3.
CountAntonius
Member
The game I always wanted. The top down view always took me out of MOBA's.
Have you played recently? It was ugly as hell in beta but it's gotten a lot better.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Are we now comparing Blizzard characters to Nintendo characters? If you want to play because Blizzard characters then you might as well squint your eyes and play Dota, over half the heroes are almost exact copies of Blizzard's(for obvious reasons).
SteveWinwood
Member
the voice acting in Dota is better than hots by a very large margin
it's okay I'll chalk it up as uninformed
huh i wonder why that is
that makes sense
cause they cant be playing it for fun
mr stroke
Member
you're missing out, HOTS is a game changer, and IMO the best MOBA ever made
Leafhopper
Banned
I was just stating that, that's one of the reasons why people are playing it. I am not comparing the characters.
Also not all the characters in Dota and Heroes overlap exactly. Starcaft characters for example. Also they may not like Dota, or they only want to play on battle.net etc. There is a bunch of reasons why. Someone told me they liked Heroes (although I think it's silly in a way) is because Blizzard made it.
I must be a mutant then because I only know maybe 20% of the cast in Heroes and I like playing it.
Weird.
witchedwiz
Member
Hots is a nice game, but that's that..
Not overly punishing to nabs, and as a result most people seems content playing it "so-so" without stepping you4 game..
Lol and dota2 instead put you in a brutal position: your under performance will most likely be the loss factor?.
In hots your bad performance at most is an issue, but with shared exp, unless you're TERRIBAD you can't really cause a loss on your own.. In the other competitor if you feed your lane.. You grow monsters
Other thing hoTs is generally slow and they might want to add some new mechanics here and there to apice up thing..
Ap carry duel can ve brutally fast, in hotS instead assassin 1vs1is rarely about who engages better, lest One is a stealther..
I may sound biased, but even though i appreciate hots, as far as i am concerned it's the lame cousin of the moba genre when compared to notable alternatives..
If the chars were not SO fanboys-food, it would easily be on smite-level or even below that, imho..
Not overly punishing to nabs, and as a result most people seems content playing it "so-so" without stepping you4 game..
Lol and dota2 instead put you in a brutal position: your under performance will most likely be the loss factor?.
In hots your bad performance at most is an issue, but with shared exp, unless you're TERRIBAD you can't really cause a loss on your own.. In the other competitor if you feed your lane.. You grow monsters
Other thing hoTs is generally slow and they might want to add some new mechanics here and there to apice up thing..
Ap carry duel can ve brutally fast, in hotS instead assassin 1vs1is rarely about who engages better, lest One is a stealther..
I may sound biased, but even though i appreciate hots, as far as i am concerned it's the lame cousin of the moba genre when compared to notable alternatives..
If the chars were not SO fanboys-food, it would easily be on smite-level or even below that, imho..
To the PC crowd, many Blizzard characters are held in similar regard to a lot of Smash characters, and unsurprisingly so. Blizzard have been putting out great games for over 20 years now.
drotahorror
Member
Really? Looks good to me -
Honestly though, it looks pretty solid I think
That's not maxed out or anything. I don't have any pictures of the redesigned conquest map which looks nice.
I think their artstyle is similar to WoW's. Has to be so everyone can run it on their toaster.
SMITE was lacking AA for a long time, but now that's fixed, it's a pretty good looking game indeed.
Gipsy Danger
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Yup, I really do. I never even played WoW, StarCraft, or Diablo once in my life. I somehow got into Hearthstone despite that, but I really don't have a connection with the characters, and I still find HotS as enjoyable as I do. I just feel that the game is extremely well made.
To those saying "no depth," I don't know. Just cause it's accessible and simplified doesn't mean it has no depth to it. This is another parallel I drew in my mind between HotS and Smash. Both really simplified current conventions, making it easy to access. But they can also be picked up and ran with on a competitive level. All the while, being extremely fun. There's a certain point when playing LoL and DOTA 2 (just my personal experience) stops being fun and just becomes stressful. if I lose in HotS, I still had fun, so everything's okay.
Anybody who is interested in trying it out should enter "/join neogaf" in the main chat once the client is launched. That's our channel.
I'm "egruntz" in-game as well. Battletag is the same. US--add meeeee.Gipsy Danger
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I'd bet you won't see a lot. HotS was made to fill a niche for people who were interested in MOBAs but not willing to input the time to be good at Dota or LoL. I'm sure some may switch over but it won't be anything to worry about for the big 2.
In hots your bad performance at most is an issue, but with shared exp, unless you're TERRIBAD you can't really cause a loss on your own.. In the other competitor if you feed your lane.. You grow monsters
I don't know how much you've played, but HOTS is so team oriented that all it takes is that one idiot on your team to throw the game. Anything 4v5 is likely going bad and if it happens at the wrong point of the game it's over. If it happens late it's definitely over.
It's not directly comparable to letting your opposition farm up, no, but one person can just as easily throw the entire thing in HOTS. It just revolves around not assisting the team or responding to objectives instead of being out maneuvered/out farmed by your 1v1 counterpart.
I play Hots with friends who gave up on Dota or League, we have a good time and I enjoy the more relaxed experience. I like the importance of timing when to take merc camps and knowing which skill builds are more useful on which maps. There are things about the game that frustrate me tough and times I wish it had more elements of other games but for what it is I have more than enough fun to justify the time I put in.
I still play Dota 2 regularly for the challenge of the game and the feeling of progress I get when I see myself avoiding past mistakes and making good choices that help lead to victory. I love having items and being able to use a wide variety of them based on the situation.
I think there's plenty of room in the loosely defined genre of Moba for Hots but I don't know that in the end it will be quite as special and game changing as some think it will.
I still play Dota 2 regularly for the challenge of the game and the feeling of progress I get when I see myself avoiding past mistakes and making good choices that help lead to victory. I love having items and being able to use a wide variety of them based on the situation.
I think there's plenty of room in the loosely defined genre of Moba for Hots but I don't know that in the end it will be quite as special and game changing as some think it will.
sleverfunk
Member
Hots is fun, gotta agree with that.
it's easier, accessible and threre is nothing wrong with that.
but I feel at home at dota2.
it's easier, accessible and threre is nothing wrong with that.
but I feel at home at dota2.
I fucking love Dota 2. I am super garbage at Dota 2. I really enjoying Playing HotS because it is a more laid back game. I love the fact that people can't talk shit cross-team. Heroes is a solid game, yeah its super easy compared to Dota/League but it is fun and it'll teach you some basic strategies. It is absolutely a more arcade-y MOBA though, have fun with it!
mr stroke
Member
yes
Amen. I am in the HOTS beta, but I dislike LoL and DoTA to a degree that I still haven't let the install finish and played it. I suppose I can give it a shot, but I'm not a big fan of MOBA outside of watching the competitive play.
Playing the games themselves doesn't appeal to me thusfar. Community is toxic as well. Jesus Christ. Not even UT and Q3A had communities this toxic to new players. Its unreal how bad it gets in LoL in particular.
HOTS is fun. I enjoy that it's a bit more laid back than DOTA2 and LOL. I'm sure it'll get better in time too.
Been playing Infinite Crisis a bit. Obviously, I love comics (see avatar), so that helps, but I like that it sits smack dab in the middle of the other MOBAs in terms of accessibility and complexity/depth.
Been playing Infinite Crisis a bit. Obviously, I love comics (see avatar), so that helps, but I like that it sits smack dab in the middle of the other MOBAs in terms of accessibility and complexity/depth.
shiftplusone
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HOTS is casual enough compared to DOTA that I can play it "in addition to" dota and not as a replacement for it
its definitely a good game though
its definitely a good game though
It's a blast. I was skeptical before the beta, but after a few games I was sold. Not sure how much money I'll actually put into it, but the core of the game is excellent imo.
I like the visuals also. As a longtime fan of Blizzard's games it's pretty fun seeing various characters from different IP's all in one place.
I like the visuals also. As a longtime fan of Blizzard's games it's pretty fun seeing various characters from different IP's all in one place.
More like Mario Party. Smash has depth
HotS has depth too but it's more focused on the teamplay and how you control the map as a team rather than on individual skills.
For example, you can't solo win a match even if you made most of the kills. If your team forgot to push or doesn't take objectives, you won't win in this game.
https://youtu.be/qh1tCppxCk4?t=14m43s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPjRqCFXkek
BolognaSoup
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I started playing League about 10 months ago and it was just about the only game I played until last week. I got way into it. I started HotS last week and I'm loving it. It's pulling me away from League quickly. The community is SO much better and the removal of all chat is a freaking godsend. People no longer spend half the match antagonizing or typing angrily at the other team. There's also not as much for people to get mad at their own team for.
Li Li is awesome.
Li Li is awesome.
BolognaSoup
Member
He makes a great point about comebacks and surrenders. I feel like I've already experience a much higher percentage of comebacks thanks to things like good objective control. You also don't get that snowballed fed Riven or Akali, etc that just steamrolls through every time she shows up because one lane had a bad start.
I've played a lot of LoL and Dota over the years. Been playing HotS since alpha, and have barely gone back to the other mobas. There's something about it that's real satisfying.
I also haven't found a big difference in opportunities to show off skill in HotS vs the other games in the genre. Being able to time last hits and looking at your opponents' items aren't really big deals at all. When it comes down to it, if you're mediocre at Dota/LoL, you'll be mediocre at HotS as well. It requires the same level of map awareness, positioning, and micro.
I also haven't found a big difference in opportunities to show off skill in HotS vs the other games in the genre. Being able to time last hits and looking at your opponents' items aren't really big deals at all. When it comes down to it, if you're mediocre at Dota/LoL, you'll be mediocre at HotS as well. It requires the same level of map awareness, positioning, and micro.