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[Vire]

Inticreates staff have developed mainly the Mega Man X series (when they were part of Capcom), Mega Man Zero, ZX / Advent, and MM9 and MM10.

I wouldn't go so far call them "unproven"

If we used one potentially bad project to discredit a developer, then pretty much every developer should be discredited as well.

I just don't understand this. One game ( that isn't out yet) is enough to ruin this entire studio's previous works on the Mega Man Zero and ZX games as well as the newest Shantae game? I don't get it.

My point wasn't that they were incapable of making a good game. If you read the last few pages, it was about the concern that there was no proof of concept and nothing to go on. I'm saying people would be put at much greater ease if they saw the game in action.

How's the quote go? You are only as good as your last success? Something like that at least.

 

[zeopower6]

So they have a publisher, but they won't name it until the campaign is over? Not sure how I feel about that.

Contracts, y'all!

 

[Ravidrath]

I wish they were transparent about it, but I understand why this is happening.

Publishers are ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED right now - budgets are higher than ever, and they have no idea what will sell.

A lot of this is because Western bizdev people, for the most part, are glorified marketing people and don't actually know anything about games.

I mean, if I were at a publisher I would've funded this in a heartbeat because I know that Iga has a lot of pent-up demand for a new game, he's extremely experienced, and that all of his non-3D games have been profitable.

But most people at publishers don't know any of these things, so it seems risky.

 

[Crocodile]

IT WAS KONAMI ALL ALONG.

 

[Extollere]

I think the danger is without being transparent, people will assume that a game like this could be made for $500k or whatever they end up with. It raises expectations while lowering the cost of doing business.

Oh, looks like he is being a little more transparent in other interviews.

So a publisher is putting up 90% of the scaled planned development budget. Congrats for subsidizing a multi-million dollar company efforts.

Really? Producing a game is an investment, sometimes a risky one. Just because a publisher has millions of dollars doesn't mean they'll invest it in a game they view uncertain to flip a profit. KS is a way to validate the demand, and make the investment seem less risky. Fans get the game they want, and the publisher makes a return. You can't always just say you want something and expect it to happen... money talks.

 

[cm osi]

well, time to make a kickstarter account. i don't want to use kickstarter but those limited stuffs surely won't be avaible at launch. let's eat this frog

 

[BassForever]

They're gonna have to roll out more stretch goals soon looks like they'll all be done by tomorrow

 

[Skunkers]

This is kind of cool but yet here I am in this weird " I don't know what I expected" position.

I have never played a Igavania game and yet it rubs me the wrong way that he can't just put the Castlevania name on it.
Makes me question how much one really possesses something abstract like an intellectual property.
Is a fading company like Konami really entitled to a name like Castlevania if they are not going to cultivate it?
Who should maintain an IP old as Castlevania? Then again, is this Bloodstained game really an Igavania or still connected to the expectations of everything that comes with the Castlevania name?

Uh. Yes, they are entitled to it, it's their IP... and it was theirs long before Iga was working on them. Konami should maintain it; whether they will or not remains to be seen. And yes, obviously it is an Igavania.

 

[YianGaruga]

NDA

Staying mum and not saying anything in regards to a potential publishing contract is a thing.

Contracts, y'all!

I understand that, but they want me to pay money for a project that is risky and doesn't exist yet, so I'd like to know who and what is involved. A publishing contract doesn't come without strings attached.

 

[Seik]

Haha...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

L

O

L

*Pledges 60$*

FUCK YESSSSSSS! Also my very first pledge for a kickstarter.

Iga nailed that video and hyped the shit out of me so much.

 

[wrowa]

My issue with the publisher thing is first and foremost that I don't buy the official reasoning for it. IGA has to use Kickstarter to prove a publisher that is potentially willing to invest 4 million that there's actual demand for the game ? Come on. Everyone who follows Kickstarter and the gaming community knew that a new Igavania game is the kind of game that would meet its funding goal on the first day. The Kickstarter pitch could have been a single line saying "A new Igavania coming 2017 to PS4, Xbox One and PC" and it still would have been funded without a problem. And a publisher willing to invest millions doesn't have this amount of insight or the capability to do a little market research?

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

They're also co-working on Shantae 4, which is 2.5D with sprites and looks like this

But people will keep thinking it's their fault MN9 looks drab lol

Also Azure Striker Gunvolt

 

[zeopower6]

They're gonna have to roll out more stretch goals soon looks like they'll all be done by tomorrow

I wonder if they have someone updating the achievement and stretch goal images as we speak.

Seems a bit slow since they've reached a few already.

 

[Spieler Eins]

 

[theSlacker]

They're gonna have to roll out more stretch goals soon looks like they'll all be done by tomorrow

If someone would start tallying up the "achievements" we might be able to see some more of them right now. Same with crossing out stretch goals. Game will pass another one of them in like 10-20 minutes and still haven't crossed out the first one. >:C

Spoiler

Why does that make me as angry as it does?

 

[Soodanim]

Looks like we've found the game that got me to sign up for Kickstarter. Did Yooka-Laylee while I was there, too.

 

[Vamphuntr]

Also Azure Striker Gunvolt

I hated this one so much. Ugh the levels were so bland.

 

[skLaFarebear]

My issue with the publisher thing is first and foremost that I don't buy the official reasoning for it. IGA has to use Kickstarter to prove a publisher that is potentially willing to invest 4 million that there's actual demand for the game ?Come on. Everyone who follows Kickstarter and the gaming community knew that a new Igavania game is the kind of game that would meet its funding goal on the first day. The Kickstarter pitch could have been a single line saying "A new Igavania coming 2017 to PS4, Xbox One and PC" and it still would have been funded without a problem. And a publisher willing to invest millions doesn't have this amount of insight or the capability to do a little market research?

I'd recommend reading the quote underneath.

I wish they were transparent about it, but I understand why this is happening.

Publishers are ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED right now - budgets are higher than ever, and they have no idea what will sell.

A lot of this is because Western bizdev people, for the most part, are glorified marketing people and don't actually know anything about games.

I mean, if I were at a publisher I would've funded this in a heartbeat because I know that Iga has a lot of pent-up demand for a new game, he's extremely experienced, and that all of his non-3D games have been profitable.

But most people at publishers don't know any of these things, so it seems risky.

 

[zeopower6]

If someone would start tallying up the "achievements" we might be able to see some more of them right now. Same with crossing out stretch goals. Game will pass another one of them in like 10-20 minutes and still haven't crossed out the first one. >:C

Spoiler

Why does that make me as angry as it does?

I THINK we should be able to see the two other castle stretch goals by now.

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[~Kinggi~]

My issue with the publisher thing is first and foremost that I don't buy the official reasoning for it. IGA has to use Kickstarter to prove a publisher that is potentially willing to invest 4 million that there's actual demand for the game ? Come on. Everyone who follows Kickstarter and the gaming community knew that a new Igavania game is the kind of game that would meet its funding goal on the first day. The Kickstarter pitch could have been a single line saying "A new Igavania coming 2017 to PS4, Xbox One and PC" and it still would have been funded without a problem. And a publisher willing to invest millions doesn't have this amount of insight or the capability to do a little market research?

Its a smokescreen for sure. All i know is the pub better be someone i like. Also if they are getting that many millions to fund the game, this game should be fairly large with great visuals.

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

My issue with the publisher thing is first and foremost that I don't buy the official reasoning for it. IGA has to use Kickstarter to prove a publisher that is potentially willing to invest 4 million that there's actual demand for the game ? Come on. Everyone who follows Kickstarter and the gaming community knew that a new Igavania game is the kind of game that would meet its funding goal on the first day. The Kickstarter pitch could have been a single line saying "A new Igavania coming 2017 to PS4, Xbox One and PC" and it still would have been funded without a problem. And a publisher willing to invest millions doesn't have this amount of insight or the capability to do a little market research?

Same thing happened with the Veronica Mars movie that started on Kickstarter.
The studio wanted to see if there was an audience for it before funding the film.

Fastest film to reach a million on KS at the time.

Cant rule it out, especially when backtracking is viewed as outdated by most publishers as well as most casual gamers

Yeah getting a bigger player to match or multiply funds from a smaller source(s) is not a new thing in the fundraising world.

 

[alfredofroylan]

Maybe this's the mysterious publisher:

 

[ephemeral garbage]

My issue with the publisher thing is first and foremost that I don't buy the official reasoning for it. IGA has to use Kickstarter to prove a publisher that is potentially willing to invest 4 million that there's actual demand for the game ? Come on. Everyone who follows Kickstarter and the gaming community knew that a new Igavania game is the kind of game that would meet its funding goal on the first day. The Kickstarter pitch could have been a single line saying "A new Igavania coming 2017 to PS4, Xbox One and PC" and it still would have been funded without a problem. And a publisher willing to invest millions doesn't have this amount of insight or the capability to do a little market research?

in addition to market research, this is also marketing

it seems to be pretty effective no?

 

[Kojirospath]

I hope there is a 6 mil stretchgoal called 'fuck you, you piece of shit no faith publishers!' Which results in selfpublising Only when they reach 5,9 mil ofcourse. Don't burn bridges you haven't crossed yet

 

[Crocodile]

Yeah getting a bigger player to match or multiply funds from a smaller source(s) is not a new thing in the fundraising world.

 

[Wagram]

I might have to pledge $60 for this. This will hit all of its stretch-goals easily. It's like a gigantic fuck off to Konami. Everything from the genre to David Hayter.

 

[theSlacker]

I THINK we should be able to see the two other castle stretch goals by now.

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Yeah, I've also been watching them closely. It depends on what the hidden secondary achievements are for those rankings, but defiantly met the first ones for each. Well other then tumblr as I don't even know how to see how many followers they have on that.

Pls someone update them. It's making me itch.

 

[Padawan of Windu]

I was sooo excited to see what this was finally...but no Nintendo? Are you fucking kidding me? No money from me then.

 

[FLAguy954]

One person doesn't make a game. I don't think people are worried about Igarashi's involvement - it's the relatively unproven talent of Inti Creates. Especially after the incredibly (if I'm being generous) lukewarm reception to MN9 thus far.

Lmao Inti Creates have proven themselves time and time again.

They were responsible for the whole Mega Man Zero series, Mega Man ZX, Mega Man 9 & 10 and other games. Just because people are reacting to the art direction of MN9 doesn't mean that Inti Creates is all of a sudden an 'unproven' dev.

 

[theSlacker]

Lmao Inti Creates have proven themselves time and time again.

They were responsible for the whole Mega Man Zero series, Mega Man ZX, Mega Man 9 & 10 and other games. Just because people are reacting to the art direction of MN9 doesn't mean that Inti Creates is all of a sudden an 'unproven' dev.

It is the most recent thing on people's minds and the most relatable to this. I can't blame people for comparing the two.

 

[Shizuka]

I bet the publisher is either Deep Silver or 505 Games. Probably Deep Silver.

 

[Smellycat]

$700000!!!

My issue with the publisher thing is first and foremost that I don't buy the official reasoning for it. IGA has to use Kickstarter to prove a publisher that is potentially willing to invest 4 million that there's actual demand for the game ? Come on. Everyone who follows Kickstarter and the gaming community knew that a new Igavania game is the kind of game that would meet its funding goal on the first day. The Kickstarter pitch could have been a single line saying "A new Igavania coming 2017 to PS4, Xbox One and PC" and it still would have been funded without a problem. And a publisher willing to invest millions doesn't have this amount of insight or the capability to do a little market research?

I am not really seeing the issue. Everyone who is backing this game is basically getting a copy of the game, plus other LE goodies. About 9300 people are backing it right now and the game has reached $700,000. Meaning, each person is paying about 75 dollars for a LE version of the game.

 

[theSlacker]

Second stretch goal, here we come. Took what? An hour and eight minutes to get here from the last one?

 

[AcademicSaucer]

And 700k

 

[BassForever]

I was sooo excited to see what this was finally...but no Nintendo? Are you fucking kidding me? No money from me then.

Believe in stretch goals

 

[alfredofroylan]

$7000,000 and 2° playable player unlocked

 

[JackelZXA]

It is the most recent thing on people's minds and the most relatable to this. I can't blame people for comparing the two.

Considering the percentage of amazing 2D Action games to "eh", they're still at a really solid batting average.

 

[Red Arremer]

Nice.
Seems kinda weird though, wasn't the game supposed to be co-op anyway (which is awesome btw)? Why would there be only a second playable character now?

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

going to bed now i expect to be well past the 850k stretch goal by the time i wake up dont let me down

 

[ghibli99]

I'm in for the digital tier. Low risk, and I can't imagine it'll be terrible. Hell, if it's at least as good as the portable Castlevania games, or even somewhere between those and SOTN, it'll be totally worth it.

 

[Muzy72]

Shouldn't some of the backer achievements already ev unlocked?

 

[Smellycat]

Second stretch goal, here we come. Took what? An hour and eight minutes to get here from the last one?

5:38
6:45

So about 7 minutes yeah

 

[Stone Ocean]

Shouldn't some of the backer achievements already ev unlocked?

They'll probably do that once they start doing proper updates

 

[theSlacker]

Considering the percentage of amazing 2D Action games to "eh", they're still at a really solid batting average.

I defiantly agree, but I can still see where the people who are worried are coming from.

 

[Dimitri LH]

2nd character get!

 

[LowParry]

$60 in. Let's do this Iga. Don't let me down!

 

[Mr. RHC]

This is great.

 

[BassForever]

Think I might go ham and do $150 for that hard cover art book

 

[theSlacker]

They'll probably do that once they start doing proper updates

They better start doing that soon. Another couple of hours and it will be past all the visible stretch goals.

 

[jdkluv]

One person doesn't make a game. I don't think people are worried about Igarashi's involvement - it's the relatively unproven talent of Inti Creates. Especially after the incredibly (if I'm being generous) lukewarm reception to MN9 thus far.

Just for your information: Inti Creates aren't the main developers behind Mighty No. 9 - Comcept (Inafune's studio) is. They are just the contract worker Comcept got for the game.

Inti Creates is a good company and has made a lot of great games. Blame Comcept's incompetence if you have to.