Finale Fireworker
Member
Gotta go deeper into the basement.
But how do we even do that? Are the social media goals even being updated?
Koji Igarashi Kickstarts Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (2.5D, backdash, 2018)
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But how do we even do that? Are the social media goals even being updated?
Vire
Member
I'm always amazed by these people being surprised by the success of their Kickstarters. Playtonics admitted they had to scramble to quickly come up with stretch goal ideas. I mean you are announcing a spirtual successor to Banjo Kazooie and Castlevania, what'd you expect was gonna happen? People are gonna lose their shit hah.
secretanchitman
Member
Sweet! Hell yes, I am in for at least the digital copy, maybe physical. GAF is the one who introduced me to Symphony of the Night and it is a goddamn fantastic game all around.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Apparently we haven't been active enough on social media to get to see them.
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Who's betting that they're talking stretch goals right now? Lol
Lord_Balkan
Member
I am not a fan of the art style :/
Ok, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but even if it doesn't cost them 400k for Local co-op, so what?
Aren't stretch goals just promises of stuff you'll add to the project if you get to X amount? It's not necessarily "I need this much to do this", right? They could have a stretch goal where they would dance and not even record it if the game reaches 1 million or something, couldn't they?
My point being: Cheat codes probably don't cost 150k, you're right. But no one ever said they did. This is not what a stretch goal is.
Aren't stretch goals just promises of stuff you'll add to the project if you get to X amount? It's not necessarily "I need this much to do this", right? They could have a stretch goal where they would dance and not even record it if the game reaches 1 million or something, couldn't they?
My point being: Cheat codes probably don't cost 150k, you're right. But no one ever said they did. This is not what a stretch goal is.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
C'mon man, there are cheat codes!!!
Red Arremer
Member
Now is a great time to grab the game. Within the next 2 months, they will release an expansion, a story campaign that allows you to play as one of the bosses, Plague Knight.
theSlacker
Member
It's much better to have low expectations that are smashed then high ones that may not be met. :3
Goodacre0081
Member
might be a million before the stream ends
zeopower6
Member
No, but I think they will be by tonight.
Doing the livestream is probably hurting them cause they have to manage that while the KS is still pumping faster than they can update.
tbh, I think the system they have for 'achievements' is overly complicated.
In the dungeon.
Yeah, I know. But since he just said "GBA vanias", I figured he didn't care. Plus, it's actually my favorite "Castletroid".
And I purposefully left off HoDis for a reason.
BassForever
Member
Iga and co just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Kickstarter culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like on Indiegogo where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw you're backers on Kickstarter, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the kickstarter public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to back Bloodstained for any system, nor will they purchase any of Iga's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Iga has alienated an entire market with this move.
Iga, publicly apologize and cancel cheat codes for kickstarter stretchgoal or you can kiss your kickstarter goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Kickstarter culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like on Indiegogo where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw you're backers on Kickstarter, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the kickstarter public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to back Bloodstained for any system, nor will they purchase any of Iga's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Iga has alienated an entire market with this move.
Iga, publicly apologize and cancel cheat codes for kickstarter stretchgoal or you can kiss your kickstarter goodbye.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I really hope local co-op makes it.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Looks cool but the title is stupid.
This is a more of a "Do I want access to the PlayBox stuff or do I want a physical Bloodstained copy"
theSlacker
Member
We had to wait too long for this.
It's got to.
Yeah, I know. But since he just said "GBA vanias", I figured he didn't care. Plus, it's actually my favorite "Castletroid".
And I purposefully left off HoDis for a reason.
If for nothing else, playing HoD will really make you appreciate just how much IGA took its criticisms to heart when they did AoS, because it's night and day between those two.
This post gets funnier and funnier the more Japanese publishers reveal themselves to be completely shameless and petty.
Mental Atrophy
Banned
I've always had a love-hate thing with IGA, but I've always suspected it was due to budget reasons. I hope what he gets from this Kickstarter and from his outside financiers works out to be more than he got for his DS games, and that we get something really cool.
theSlacker
Member
It's going to, don't worry. I wounder what the next set of goals are. These two are probably the ones from getting 5 achievements, so still got a bunch left.
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
I'm not in love with the concept art if I'm honest. I'm glad to see the game has already been funded though and I'll buy it day one if it turns out to be good.
theSlacker
Member
They are talking about the stretch goals on the stream.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
SOTN had some neat ones back in the day. Luck mode, axe lord armor mode, richeter/maria modes, and some others iirc.
Also, more money for general polish and such.
lasrmountedmoai
Member
I'm a big dummy
Finale Fireworker
Member
I know they still have an entire month here, but revealing stretch goals for other platforms sooner than later sounds like a good idea to me. Plenty of Wii U/Vita fans who stepped away from the KS. Those fanbases are pretty passionate about funding projects on their machines.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Not a joke post. I'm a little upset because Castlevania is one of my favorite series and I want this kickstarter to do well. In order to do that, the "carrots" need to be tantalizing and adding fucking cheat codes is meaningless. Any diehard Castlevania fan will tell you that one of the major issues with these games is that they are already too easy. At least if they explained a little better what "cheat codes" they will be adding, this might make more sense.
Yes, like horse armor right? No, not all content is meaningful or "more content" as you say. Kickstarters should cater to their audience and aim to add meaningful content when people are blindly handing their money over.
You may be right, but honestly, do you think IGA's legacy has anything to do with multiplayer? The core of the Metroidvania experience is about exploration, growing your character and the solo experience. Cheat codes and local coop are not the best stretch goals. Adding another location, additional characters, more gameplay mechanics, additional bosses, an arena, or newgame+ are all better stretch goals that I thought about in 10 seconds.
I know you're being sarcastic, but this is a BIG DEAL. Kickstarters are about what the fans want, especially these type of kickstarters about one creator's "legacy" etc... Adding "Cheat codes" as a stretch goal, even if it just a BS stretch goal to get to the local coop shows a degree of mismanagement which makes some people nervous about backing the project. This is not a good thing.
Can you tell me how many potential backers they lost? I can tell you that I am still on the fence because of these stretch goals.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Cheat codes = alt OST and bad voice acting?!
Holy shit megaton in disguise!
Holy shit megaton in disguise!
theSlacker
Member
From what they just said on the stream: Good. You are right, I would rather a more robust solo game then multiplayer. Thanks for getting that.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Hahah omg thats great!
It sounds important/romantic on paper but I wager many of us play alone online anyways.
This never gets old lol.
theSlacker
Member
Zero plans to release the kickstarter exclusive physical version with the extra content in any other way: According to the stream.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
You don't get that meme?
It's always been an hilarious take on the original post for years and years when Final Fantasy XIII was announced it was going to X360. People just change the topical concern.
Cheat codes - even difficulty altering ones - are pretty fucking innocuous. It's not going to change your enjoyment of the game if they exist. Are you mad that -other- people might enjoy them? Frankly I'm of the opinion more games need cheat menus and other methods for tinkering around with the game; they're a lost pleasure. Don't act like you speak for all fans.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Oh man.
Dude, get a drink or something. Something simple as adding cheat codes on a stretch goal is as it is. I fail to see how they've mismanaged this Kickstarter by that.
This is so exciting.
Also, good call on bringing back one of Curse of Darkness's best features with the crafting. It might not have much staying power when all is said and done, but there's nothing like getting a brand new material and being able to craft four new items with it. Only, you don't know what those items are exactly, and you only have enough to craft one.
The grind is gonna eat me alive.
Also, good call on bringing back one of Curse of Darkness's best features with the crafting. It might not have much staying power when all is said and done, but there's nothing like getting a brand new material and being able to craft four new items with it. Only, you don't know what those items are exactly, and you only have enough to craft one.
The grind is gonna eat me alive.
Finale Fireworker
Member
I read this over and over because I was reading "Zero" as somebody's name/handle. I'm like, who is Zero? What is he planning?
Bullshit. I just tweeted and tumblred and everything about this game, even saying it would be a perfect fit for WiiU.
BassForever
Member
Not sure if unfamiliar with joke, or if you think my version of it was sub part
I don't like the idea of exclusive game content for some tiers. Just rubs me the wrong way.
fastballspecial
Member
I hate Kickstarter. Haven't backed anything in 3+ years.
I went in for $60. Iga is the exception to my rule.
I went in for $60. Iga is the exception to my rule.