Samsung Silent On Disastrous Galaxy S6 Sales
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Yep. Apple lost out on a lot of money not making the phones reasonably sized sooner.
ImpalingNarwhal
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Isn't it getting pretty good reviews, though?
I think you nailed it. Plus the fact that you have two galaxy 6's. Which one am I supposed to buy?
Damon Bennet
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the edge 6 screen is incredible though. Best screen I've seen on a phone, and I truly dislike Samsung!
Phat Michael
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Damn I thought it was selling really well. I didn't realise 10m was bad though... Guess I'm out of touch with what is going on.
GoldenEye 007
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Is that the real issue, though? I thought the prevailing thought from a lot of people was that nobody really wanted large phones from Apple and that Apple shouldn't go that direction.
Unless they figure out something that mass market cannot get from an iPhone (or Apple screws up tremendously), I'm afraid their best days are behind them.
Nearly everyone that I've spoken to about their Galaxy purchases in the past several years boiled down their reasoning down to one or two reasons:
1. They hated Apple.
2. They wanted a bigger screen.
Nearly everyone that I've spoken to about their Galaxy purchases in the past several years boiled down their reasoning down to one or two reasons:
1. They hated Apple.
2. They wanted a bigger screen.
CassidyIzABeast
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Is it because they release new versions too often?
diffusionx
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Not just that, but they are getting squeezed by other manufacturers in the Android world. Even if you don't want Apple, you have a million other options for a big screen phone with nice build quality.
Samsung's dominance in the phone world was a fad.
Bluekaveli
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Lack of SD card fucked them over.
Sales figures say otherwise. There has been huge demand for phones that size since 2011/12, and Samsung has been the market leader.
As soon as Apple stepped in to the ring, it was already over.
Well, luckily for the holding company, they've hedged their bets by holding onto those manufacturing contracts.
High end Android is going the same way that high end Windows PCs went. Demand is low there, and the hardware market turns into a race to the bottom.
Alligatorjandro
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The S6 might be the best Android phone ever made.
Veritigo_X
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Glad to hear it. They got rid of a lot of the reasons I bought Galaxy phones so hopefully this makes them go back instead of trying to make yet another iPhone.
I wouldn't say it was a fad. They set a high bar with the S2 at a time when Android was pretty clunky and slow, and the rest of the Galaxy S line has always been top of the line spec-wise even if everyone dislikes Touchwiz. Only in recent years has Moto, LG, and HTC really stepped up their game to compete.
Why did it take this many post for somebody to say this. That to me is the bottom line. We want SD.
captmcblack
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They gotta let it be cheaper out of contract.
There are so many great phones you can pick up out of contract, it's almost stupid to get it. I'd buy it for $350/400 right now if I could get it on any carrier (read: VZW) without contract concerns for pricing, or have it be some gimped/lite version of it.
There are so many great phones you can pick up out of contract, it's almost stupid to get it. I'd buy it for $350/400 right now if I could get it on any carrier (read: VZW) without contract concerns for pricing, or have it be some gimped/lite version of it.
diffusionx
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What I mean is, it's a fad because it of the unique market conditions of the time. It was never going to last. And it's not just Moto/LG/HTC. It's Xiaomei, OnePlus, etc. etc.
The Android market has become the PC market in hyperdrive, where a ton of virtually anonymous manufacturers kill each other on margins to bring virtually the same product to retail.
the first month is going to be the highest.
Everything that differentiated it Android from iOS, Samsung conveniently ripped away.
1. SD Card slot
2. Removable battery
On top of that, Sammy has started to lock down their bootloader. It's so many steps backwards, I can't begin to fathom what the hell they are doing any more. It's great that Touchwiz is lighter, but that's not what the conversation should be in 2015. Touchwiz should be completely gone.
1. SD Card slot
2. Removable battery
On top of that, Sammy has started to lock down their bootloader. It's so many steps backwards, I can't begin to fathom what the hell they are doing any more. It's great that Touchwiz is lighter, but that's not what the conversation should be in 2015. Touchwiz should be completely gone.
I did not read it right lol
They were gunning hard for the Apple audience with S6 and it backfired immensely. Those that traditionally buy Android decided to stick with their older phones as S6 was barely an upgrade (in some aspects, even a downgrade).
And the Apple audience were too interested in iPhone 6 and 6 Plus to give a damn about Samsung.
Also, Samsung has built up quite an infamous reputation over the years now. Their phones have been loaded with bloatware, build quality has been poor, same for customer service and general product reliability. Samsung tried to go for premium when their products are anything but. I see no reason to recommend S6 to anyone when iPhone 6 and LG G3 exists on the market. G3 is almost half the price, same screen resolution and comes with SD support to boot.
And the Apple audience were too interested in iPhone 6 and 6 Plus to give a damn about Samsung.
Also, Samsung has built up quite an infamous reputation over the years now. Their phones have been loaded with bloatware, build quality has been poor, same for customer service and general product reliability. Samsung tried to go for premium when their products are anything but. I see no reason to recommend S6 to anyone when iPhone 6 and LG G3 exists on the market. G3 is almost half the price, same screen resolution and comes with SD support to boot.
Considering Apple sold 10 million iPhone 6 on launch weekend, as in in three days, the S6 sales are really not too hot.
If they can only manage to sell 10 million in a month, how much can they sell in June or July? The number is only going to go down, especially once September hits and the new iPhone comes out.
I could have sworn I had recently read how well the s6 and s6 edge were selling. Infact they apparently couldn't make the s6 edge quick enough to meet demand.
It's no shock that the iPhone is the best selling handset. Yes android sells more than iOS but that includes 100 times more handsets.
Take the best selling handsets in android world and compare their individual sales and they fall short up against the iPhone.
I don't see people queuing for days for any android handset...Do you?
It's no shock that the iPhone is the best selling handset. Yes android sells more than iOS but that includes 100 times more handsets.
Take the best selling handsets in android world and compare their individual sales and they fall short up against the iPhone.
I don't see people queuing for days for any android handset...Do you?
Definitely a part of it. iPhone growing in size + ever more competition from cheaper phones in the Android space + diminishing returns from advancements.
Very true. And Android as an OS doesn't suck anymore, so if you have a bunch of similarly specced phones coming out that do everything well, people gravitate towards lower cost and good hardware design, which has never been Samsung's strong suit imo.
Yeah - did some digging. I think this is actually more telling.
S4 - Sold 10 million units in the first month.
S5 - Sold 11 million units in the first month.
S6 - Shipped 10 million units in the first month.
So sales are down generation to generation - albeit with a higher ASP.
jamesinclair
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What's hilarious is all the people claiming this would be Samsung's best selling phone ever.
I told them it would bomb.
Samsung was the main "other" option in an iPhone world. But the six copies every flaw in the iPhone without offering any advantage. So why the fuck not get an iPhone.
I've owned three Samsung phones. My upgrade is in September, and without replaceable battery, sd card, or waterproof, I will no longer be a customer.
The S6 is the Wii U of smart phones
This year the S6 has lost almost all the things that used to differentiate it from the iPhone and other Android phones. iPhones have bigger screens now, and Samsung no longer has removable storage or batteries or waterproofing to separate it. Now about the only reason for an average person to get a Galaxy over an iPhone is that they prefer Android, and the only reason to get a Galaxy over another Android phone is minor hardware differences/advantages.
i don't doubt it solely because samsung has been so quiet about it... i just can't take most of that guys articles seriously enough to believe HIM
people are also reading too much into it. Of the 10 million people who buy a phone in the first month, 100 give a shit about a removable battery or a memory card. Its the same thing that apple always dealt with, but they have a captive audience and ever expanding territory.
Shocking news - Phones are good enough to last more than a year. Combine that with Androids amazing mid range phone expansion and the high end is very niche on Android... and i would assume that a good amount of high end buyers are on S5s or G3's and see no reason to upgrade this year
My thoughts exactly. Bring back expandable storage and waterproof the thing and I'll be there day one.
Deaf Spacker
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I'm not surprised, I think that the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus fucked it up for Samsung and they chose to ignore it, plus the lack of removable battery and SD card slot meant that it was another iPhone clone.
Lmao. The percentage of people who care about this is likely single digit.
I think the bigger issue here is For android phones there are many other good options now. Especially off contract affordable close to high end phones. The landscape has changed.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I don't think hardware spec wars has the same effectiveness it used to. Low-priced phones like the Moto G and the Asus Zenfone 2 are extremely capable devices.
Mango Positive
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I still love my Galaxy S4 (running Google Developer Edition Lollypop). I honestly have no need or desire to upgrade my phone. I think we're reaching a point where technology isn't moving forward at such a rate that makes upgrading every 2 years essential.
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