CrunchyFrog
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They should call it bendghazi [/kneeslapper]
Samsung Silent On Disastrous Galaxy S6 Sales
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They should call it bendghazi [/kneeslapper]
The S4 was a garbage phone that had terrible build quality. Most people get a phone every 2 years so its not surprising. I switched to ios after being exclusive with android from the beginning because of how shitty the S4 was. TBH I'm probably switching back to Android, but im done with Samsung.
Yup, same with PCs. Obviously Samsung also has a much bigger amount of competitors than Apple.
The mobile market is much less a freely moving market as one would think. People tend to stick to their OS, this might change once iOS or Android go stale (maybe they won't but who knows).
Well, I gotta be honest, I was a fan of Samsung, having used the Note 2 since it came out. It was a lovely phone, and so I got an S6 less than a week ago.
I wanted to love it, I really did. It looks great. The camera is fantastic. But I just can't deal with the shit battery life, the overheating, the constant apps (especially Chrome) crashing every few minutes), the fact that it randomly doesn't push notifications (emails) in a timely matter...
Gonna return it and probably get an older phone. I need something non-huge and none of the current phones look very appealing (especially for the price).
I wanted to love it, I really did. It looks great. The camera is fantastic. But I just can't deal with the shit battery life, the overheating, the constant apps (especially Chrome) crashing every few minutes), the fact that it randomly doesn't push notifications (emails) in a timely matter...
Gonna return it and probably get an older phone. I need something non-huge and none of the current phones look very appealing (especially for the price).
Funky Papa
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I'm sorry, but this:
Is an incredibly misleading statement. I mean, from which other smartphone platforms people would switch? Windows Phone's quota is marginal and BlackBerry is dead and buried. Of course new iPhone users would switch from Android.
Is an incredibly misleading statement. I mean, from which other smartphone platforms people would switch? Windows Phone's quota is marginal and BlackBerry is dead and buried. Of course new iPhone users would switch from Android.
ArtHands
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the point he was illustrating is that there's a huge portion of the new iphone 6 users that uses non-iphone previously, not the point that most people who switched are from Android.
You are not only focusing on the wrong point, but there's also nothing misleading about that.
Huh? How is that misleading if it's true? lol
They are just stating that most of the iPhone 6 purchasers were not previous iPhone owners, but Android users. How else would you word that statement?
You took the statement out of it's context to make a very strange point.
Funky Papa
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Yes, I took it out of context. I wasn't adressing Talon but the article itself. It just struck me as a very bizarre and selective statement. It annoys me when journos reproduce bullshit from high ranking excutives without any critical thinking.
I should have made myself clear. I don't disagree with Talon at all.
I sold my s5 and bought a iPhone 6.
IRT to the WSJ piece.
1. Business journalism is a confluence of the worst impulses of journalism. WSJ not quite being Forbes or Fortune level of ballwashing but still ultimately the same breed. They are just bad at understanding technology at a base level and make dumbass assertions like the one you quote.
2. That said, Daisuke Wabayashi is anything but an Apple parrot. Dude's been trolling Apple at a half-Dewitt-level for well over two years now (e.g. that Apple Watch story that had its title changed).
ZackieChan
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Good to know that Samsung's shittiness is increasing that iPhone market share. Yikes.
weekend_warrior
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He said "the majority of switchers to iPhone came from smartphones running Google Inc.s Android operating system" while trying to make it sound like the majority of iPhone 6 buyers came from Android.
It's either intentionally misleading or it's a redundant statement. Obviously the majority of switchers would be coming from Android, since it holds a significant market lead over the next largest platform. That's like saying "the majority of rain came from the sky". That statement alone doesn't give any insight into how many iPhone 6 buyers actually came from android.
Bananajama
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I used to always want the latest phone and the best gadgets
Few years ago realised it was all folly
So my current phone is a £90 Moto 4G
Few years ago realised it was all folly
So my current phone is a £90 Moto 4G
Totally. They should have stuck with 32-bit for one more year until they could do custom 64 bit cores, but I'm confident they'll make up for it.
Not necessarily. It's not necessarily only smartphone switchers. There's still a fair amount of Greenfield from dumbphone users - not in the US and Europe but in China and other emerging markets.
We only crossed the worldwide 50% smartphone mark late in 2013, if I recall correctly.
The fact that 85% of iPhone 6/6+ buyers were new to the platform refutes the point that Condom made - that users stick to their platforms without switching anymore.
Me too
Or worse, when you sell people a shitty phone then release a new improved "Plus" or "Turbo" edition a month or two later. That's probably what helped kill HTC, and they still do that kind of stuff! HTC One -> HTC One+. Their naming conventions didn't help either.
It's not just the Android part of that quote that's hugely misleading (or it's been quoted out of context). Read it again.
He's not saying that only 15% of iPhone 6/6 Plus buyers switched from a different platform. He's saying that only 15% of existing iPhone users have upgraded to iPhone 6/6 Plus. The implication is that the remaining 85% (less the small percentage that switch to another brand) remain untapped and are future revenue when they do make the switch.
I think what Tim Cook was supposed to say is that, not only is there many more sales ahead from previous iPhone users when they eventually upgrade, there's also been a lot of new customers coming from rival products, the majority of which are coming from Android.
So, as Tim Cook says, "“We certainly believe there are legs to it.” That's really it. It's just not communicated very clearly.
lol. don't give samsung any ideas
Seriously? It's probably as close to the iPhone 6 design as Samsung could legally get away with.
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The main difference is the back being glass... like the iPhone 4.
Jazzy Network
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Are you seriously arguing the front looks like an iPhone?
10M is considered disastrous?
Sony, HTC, Microsoft would be very happy with those sales for their flagships.
Samsung of course has way higher expectations due to their dominant position in that market, especially since they really seem to spend an enormous amount of money on marketing. I see more adverts, billboards, commercials for Samsung Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge than for all other phones combined.
Anyway, I'm not really following the smartphone flagship wars etc, but the Galaxy S6 looks great imho and seems to be their best Galaxy S flagship in years imho.
Sony, HTC, Microsoft would be very happy with those sales for their flagships.
Samsung of course has way higher expectations due to their dominant position in that market, especially since they really seem to spend an enormous amount of money on marketing. I see more adverts, billboards, commercials for Samsung Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge than for all other phones combined.
Anyway, I'm not really following the smartphone flagship wars etc, but the Galaxy S6 looks great imho and seems to be their best Galaxy S flagship in years imho.
Nathan_Drake
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I am on the S4 right now. It is my first Galaxy and first Android device. My phone is laggy as shit. I am not sure what percentage if the phone versus the carrier (AT&T). Prior to this phone I had a Windows Nokia 920. I loved the device. It was a tank and took beautiful pictures with the Zeiss lens. The downfall was the lack of apps, even basic popular ones that you would expect. It got better before I switched but you still aren't seeing the windows logo next to the apple and android ones with most apps and products. So I "upgraded" to the S4 for a dollar. My text often show a busy signal before eventually sending, only 5 to 20 seconds when it happens but still annoying. I feel the phone needs restarted every few days because switching between apps or programs will lag. The battery is not impressive but I am using it wah more now that I have all the apps I coveted.
So on topic. I want to check out the 6 in person but I don't think I will be staying on the Galaxy team. I doubt I ever go iPhone. I wish phones like Sony's Xperia was more available in the US and by AT&T. Remote play my PS4 on my phone? Yes please
No, it really isn't.
The frame looks similar, but no sane person would ever mistake an S6 for an iPhone. The Edge, in particular, looks totally different.
I mean if you really wanna go down that road, then the iPhone 6 ripped off the HTC One and Samsung power button placement.
10M is considered disastrous?
Sony, HTC, Microsoft would be very happy with those sales for their flagships.
Samsung understandably has way higher expectations, especially since they really seem to spend an enormous amount of money on marketing. I see more adverts, billboards, commercials for Samsung Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge than for all other phones combined.
Anyway, I'm not really following the smartphone flagship wars etc, but the Galaxy S6 looks great imho and seems to be their best Galaxy S flagship in years imho.
In a vacuum the numbers are pretty good, but when compared to its biggest competitor's most recent release selling more in one quarter than this phone may sell in a year, I'm not even sure "disastrous" is a harsh enough word. This is particularly true because a launch quarter is almost always going to be the biggest quarter for a phone's sales, and it fell below Samsung's own projections (from what we can tell).
If we take ten million for first month, and subtract one million per month afterward (TOTALLY making that up, by the way, I'm not sure what their sales trends are on a per month basis over a year for past flagships) and evening out at two million for the last four months, that puts them at 60 million, ten million short of their original estimates of 70. Totally napkin math based on sales simply slowly falling over a year's time, so take it for what it is. Point is, for them to hit their 70 million estimate they'd need to fall to no less than probably 5.5 million each month, which seems unlikely.
poppabk
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What was so shoddy about the S4? I would keep mine for another year if I wasn't effectively throwing money down the drain through my contract. It's been dropped a couple of times, but other than a few dings it is working better than the day I bought it.
It is but I was talking about the average consumer. They won't know about adding skins, they see the OS on the phone think it looks ugly and then leave.
hydragonwarrior
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There's been disastrous galaxy s6 sales.
Souldestroyer Reborn
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I was actually thinking of moving to android from iOS (iPhone 5s) but I wouldn't pay that price for a Samsung product.
I was thinking of going down the Sony route as they make solid hardware, but then I thought that I'm tied to the iOS Eco system.
However my iPhone is 64GB and runs like a champ for the most part, so why upgrade and continue paying £50+ p/m?
So I'm now considering just getting a £10/20 sim only deal at the end of my contract. That gives me all the data etc that I need at 4G speeds.
There's no need to upgrade so often anymore. The tech has largely stagnated and there are only marginal increases in what you get for your buck at the top end.
I was thinking of going down the Sony route as they make solid hardware, but then I thought that I'm tied to the iOS Eco system.
However my iPhone is 64GB and runs like a champ for the most part, so why upgrade and continue paying £50+ p/m?
So I'm now considering just getting a £10/20 sim only deal at the end of my contract. That gives me all the data etc that I need at 4G speeds.
There's no need to upgrade so often anymore. The tech has largely stagnated and there are only marginal increases in what you get for your buck at the top end.
With its many battery draining features.
I doubt my preferences are common but I just refuse to get Android phones on contract, with bloatware, and skins. So yeah, there is basically no way I'm getting any Samsung phones until I can get a Google Play edition and now I'm looking to get a phablet so the 6 and 6 Edge are kinda out of the race for me anyways.
Would love a vanilla, off-contract Note 5 though.
Would love a vanilla, off-contract Note 5 though.
ScottSullivan
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I still use an S2 fuck it thing works fine, plays youtube and podcasts and browses. I don't know why everyone feels the need to upgrade their phone every damn year
Lots of previous apple users usually wait for the S version, myself included. I got a nexus 6 free from work and its a great phone, but when the 6s+ is out, I'm buying it.
and terrible camera software/hardware.
and memory leaks
and I don't understand people who say to just slap a launcher on Touchwiz
all it does is change the home screen and app drawer which is prob the least intrusive part of Touchwiz.
Xperia seems like the winner this year on the Android side.
Can you replace the battery easily on the Xperia?
It's about to be saved
Does that say Avengers: Ass of Ultron?
They should have shown off phones with the other Avengers as well.
Except for Black Widow. She always gets shafted
Shrug, I never really had issues with battery on any of my phones except the Nexus line. I usually change my phone around the 6 mo - 1 year mark anyway so its never really been an issue for me. I can see why it would be for some. Isn't the Xperia (compact) battery pretty god-tier anyway?
It's about to be saved
Looks really ugly imho.
I don't think so, because they have to remain waterproof.
They do have a long battery life already though iirc, compared to other flagships.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...us-to-the-era-of-two-day-battery-life_id60955
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I've really taken a hard look at getting an S6 after going from a Galaxy Nexus to iOS when the 5S came out, but for the price and the features...meh, I'm probably just going to wait until the iPhone 6S comes out this year. I used to really like all the customization I could do with Android, but now I just want my shit to work without thinking too much about it. iOS 8 has been sort of disappointing in how buggy it's been, but 9 should fix that, and I've generally thought the "S" line of iPhones tend to be more solid. I've had my 5S for longer than any phone I've ever had and it's still pumping along.
The family itunes account is nice too, I like iMessenger, I like being to use "find my iphone" for my wife from my phone (or vice versa), I like my iPad being able to receive regular SMS texts or calls from my phone...I feel like at this point I'm pretty much committed to iOS regardless of the merits of other devices.
The family itunes account is nice too, I like iMessenger, I like being to use "find my iphone" for my wife from my phone (or vice versa), I like my iPad being able to receive regular SMS texts or calls from my phone...I feel like at this point I'm pretty much committed to iOS regardless of the merits of other devices.
it is, really liking mine.
boiled goose
good with gravy
As an Android user the new galaxy's are too expensive. Plenty of cheaper options.
Mammoth Jones
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I don't like Samsung because of the Samsung Instinct. Not sure what you don't understand with that statement.
Yea, I'm sure they're building better phones now but I personally won't buy one. With that said I purchased an S6 for my wife as that's the phone she wanted.
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