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Koji Igarashi Kickstarts Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (2.5D, backdash, 2018)
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8. IGA said so in one of his interviews. But he said it's a preliminary number and with stretch goals they're looking to expand that.
Dreamwriter
Member
Why are people thinking the Wii U version will be cut down or inferior? This isn't some AAA 3D game pushing hardware and polygons/effects, it's a 2D game with some 3D elements but still designed to look mostly 2D. It should be pretty simple to port it to Wii U with nothing lost at all. The developers weren't considering the Wii U port too different to do themselves because the system wasn't powerful enough, but because the engine they chose doesn't support Wii U so it would require being a completely separate code base to do the exact same things.
Sir_Crocodile
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Not only that, it's being made by people who have released AAA games on the gamecube & wii and therefore know the wii u's cpu backwards, forwards and sideways, and should have a good working knowledge of the graphics from the blackgate port.
shanafan
Member
To each their own of course, but allowing this game to reacher an even bigger audience is pretty awesome.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Nice that the Wii U version was added. Any chances of this game matching the greatness of the SOTN soundtrack?
It's a big deal in terms of the work involved. And for those who have a Wii U and not the other systems.
shanafan
Member
I also think the final product on PS4 and Xbone will not suffer because of the WiiU port, on the contrary I think the porting on WiiU may suffer a bit (there are too many factors involved, so it's only a random prediction, only time will tell how good the WiiU version will be).
Yes, I'm pretty curious to see how the WiiU version will turn.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Not off the shelf, no. Armature would either need to spend a lot of time on it or use a different engine.
I hope we get regular videos of the wii u build, as all things being equal I'd prefer that to the ps4 version as I like the propad.
When these guys left and were fired from Retro Studios the studio didn't miss a beat in terms of quality. I'm more likely to believe the reasons why the Metroid Prime series was so good extend greatly beyond them. Yet their own offers were bad. Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate is not a good game period. Just because they came from Retro Studios doesn't mean that quality is automatically replicated. That's been shown in the past to not be the case when people have thought that about other developers. This on top of them perhaps trying to alter UE4 or porting the game to a completely different engine!? No.
On paper? Maybe. But I don't think Epic would port UE4 to the WiiU, and I don't think the devs are equipped to do it all by themselves, that's a rather large undertaking. The WiiU port will most likely be on a different engine, perhaps UE3 or something in house. Which means it most likely won't have the shaders the devs of the actual game will be using to give the 3D models their 2D look (as they mentioned leveraging UE4 for those) so it will either look drastically different or the developers might find a new solution for the visuals.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
They're not being asked to make a game, just port it. Their creative talents aren't in question here, their technical ones are.
Dreamwriter
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They were fired from Retro? Do you have a link to that, I hadn't read about that, just that they left to form their own company. As for "the studio didn't miss a beat in terms of quality", these people left right after finishing Metroid Prime 3, so they have a good enough legacy behind them. And their Wii U port of Batman Blackgate didn't get mediocre reviews for its technology or quality in porting, but in the game design, and this time Armature isn't going to be designing one bit of the game but doing a straight port.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284720
First thread I could find on it. From what I recall being said they were escorted out for trying to headhunt other employees for their new company. Was found out and they were taken out of the building. I can only assume they were fired for doing that even if they were planning to leave later on.
Hmm. Maybe fired is the wrong word since we don't know for sure and it's an assumption but being escorted out would lead one to believe being fired would be the next course of action.
Even if they're doing a straight port I still don't have a good feeling on this. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
thebisonxrc
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Now that there's a Wii U stretch goal, I'm in. I really hope it reaches that point
Holy Order Sol
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Gahigiddy waiting at the bottom confirmed
I need to see that photoshop.
Someone photoshop IGA into the frame, and "Konami sucks" instead of "Rare sucks"
Finale Fireworker
Member
You didn't even read the update, then.
I want to see this at the bottom of the goal castle.
Someone photoshop IGA into the frame, and "Konami sucks" instead of "Rare sucks"
From the Kickstarter page
Yamane did the SOTN score
And Ippo did the Megaman Zero/ZX scores, he knows his shit too. Gonna be a great soundtrack for sure
And I don't believe it.
8 is a low number, i hope with the new goal achieved that number grow
i expect at least 15
RPGCrazied
Member
Come on guys, 3 million for Wii U port. Lets do this. This game needs to be on everything possible.
Holy Order Sol
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lol
AmethystEnd
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You seem like a reasonable person.
RPGCrazied
Member
But that gamepad play!
AmethystEnd
Member
It's weird that there is a population of people who have a Wii U and nothing else and want to play the game?
FlashbladeNeo
Neo Member
Some people just don't care about others
I believe they got booted when Nintendo found out they were trying to get others in the studio to leave with them.
RobFox64tm
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Glad a Wii U version might be in the cards now, but I realize that Nintendo will likely have moved on to NX by the time this releases. At least I won't have to buy a new system to play this, but knowing that it'll be an inferior port still kind of irks me a bit. Maybe they'll offer up a better version on Nintendo's new system, if it is capable.
Did any of you guys read the FAQ? Former Retro developers (armature) are handling it. I wonder how that's suppose to be a sign of inferiority (considering these are the key people who did Metroid Prime and pushed the GC hardware).
Upped my pledge to physical.
The Lamonster
Member
Who writes these updates? I know it's not Iga himself.
shanafan
Member
Sorry, but what is weird about that?
There are a number of Castlevania titles available through the eShop, and they might want to experience a brand new title in the series.
stan423321
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Don't believe what, exactly?
Theonik
Member
That's what he was saying.
But actually. The only people who are weirder than people who bought the WiiU are people refusing to buy another console or gaming PCs.
WEIRDOS.
Guymelef
Doesn't believe in ports
(Today, 02:29 PM)
Sir_Crocodile
Member
fangamer or ben judd I assume
Theonik
Member
They haven't detailed how it will work. I guess that will be discussed after it hits that goal.
RobFox64tm
Member
It would mean something if Retro Studios as a whole was developing, but a couple of guys that worked there once does not insure anything. I'm sure the game will be competently done and "play" just as well as the other versions on more powerful hardware, but you can't deny that sacrifices will be made to get that to happen. Even if they are just cosmetic changes, that still denotes a compromise in the original intended vision for the game. It's still very nice that they are throwing us Nintendo fans a bone, but there is no way this will parity the other versions and it's disingenuous to think it could.
The campaign hit the local coop goal on the first day and they still haven't detailed what that means.
Theonik
Member
There will not be complete parity no. The PS4/PC versions will run at 1080p, XB1 900p probably, and WiiU will run 720p with concessions for example. There is no sorcery that will make it just work without concessions and not affecting other versions.
With that being said, if you absolutely must have it on WiiU it's great that you can. And the concessions are something you just have to live with.
Edit:
SOON(TM)
They have hit the stretchgoals much faster than they anticipated so they are struggling to keep up and Fangamer doesn't seem up to the task and is still obsessed with following their existing plan to an extent when it comes to content, which I guess is another way to do it. This means you won't hear about the WiiU till the last week at the latest maybe? But they should announce the physical WiiU if such a thing can be done ASAP otherwise they risk losing money.
RobFox64tm
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Don't get me wrong, I want the Wii U version, but not because of some staunch refusal to branch out to other systems or anything, but because I simply can't afford to make expensive purchases like that for a while. It's possible this might change by the time this game is finished of course (in which case, I'll be getting a new PC). As it stands right now, I'm really glad I'll at least be able to play it, perfect or not.