Stella has been removed from FFXV; Itamuro writing game; Demo 2 June 9; FFXV not @ E3
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At this rate they really should have just cancelled this game, them going through this many changes and taking this long to do it does not instill confidence in me. Director dropped, transitioning from a spin-off to a main entry, entire characters being dropped, story being rewritten (by someone worse). Yeah...
So uhhhh... New avatar, Kagari?
Also, no sequels is good news.
Nope. NEVER FORGET.
So uhhhh... New avatar, Kagari?
Also, no sequels is good news.
That one's not too surprising to me.
This seems to be a game that was inherited by senior staff who didn't come up with the original idea, so I imagine they'd want to do something else afterwards.
HAHAHA
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
I mean
-All male party
-Messy writer change
-No strong female characters, are the summons all male too? Poor Shiva
This game is shaping up to be a mess
Queen Lightning doesn't look so bad now, does she GAF? Praying for FFXIII-4 @ this point
-All male party
-Messy writer change
-No strong female characters, are the summons all male too? Poor Shiva
This game is shaping up to be a mess
Queen Lightning doesn't look so bad now, does she GAF? Praying for FFXIII-4 @ this point
Um. If you mean me, I know things. Obviously I'm not allowed to talk about them lol.
I remember that brief change during TGS last year D:
Ah I see. Guess I have to live with second hand impressions again.
Karsticles
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Literally the only character that looked cool to me. :/
TheGreatDirector
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You're drifting off into the deep end. Come back before it's too late.
Can we not do this drive-by? The reason people were invested in the original character is because of the way she was pitched as. Character design, just the visual, on its own, is already an expression of an intent. When you see Cloud with a big ass sword you know he's a tough guy in some kinda uniform even without having played the game or seeing him in action. Character traits therefore are expressed in the design itself. Design has been changed, the new girl looks a lot more younger, less confident and more vulnerable, just from the outset. But we had more to the pitch of Stella than just that. We had scenes in which she was shown being in some kind of imposed rivalry with Noctis, we had scenes from trailers and descriptions that gave ideas of what her character is like. All of these were presented to us in order to sell us, potential audience, on the character of the upcoming game. That's what people were invested in.
We had a strong girl from a rival family who had similar abilities to the protagonist, being stuck in a Romeo and Juliet-esque star-crossed lovers situation. That was the pitch and some people found it interesting and an appealing point of the game.
It is now being discarded and replaced with what the new dev team thinks would work better for the game they are making - which is fair - but if an interesting pitch like Stella is being replaced with a vulnerable princess archetype that might not even hold a candle to better ladies in the series such as Ashe, Garnet or Yuna, well then of course people will be a little bit worried (although fair is fair, I'll admit that we don't know many details about Lunafreya yet - other than the way she is presented so far or, er, pitched to us if you want).
I mean.
Don't be ignorant about how this works.
Nomura was credited under "Concept by" and "Main character design".
artsi
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But they did. They cancelled Versus XIII, and started working on XV.
And now it might be actually finished.
They're saving everything for gamescom in August.
Not all blonde females are carbon-copies.
Mobius may interest you!
sensui-tomo
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going to go full Sarcasm mode
Oh boy FFX-2 a game with all females ITS THE WORST THING EVER...
Seriously give the all guy thing a chance, not like we've ever had an all male Final fantasy before, but nope gotta have a female or else it sucks, but it doesnt matter when its the other way around.
Oh boy FFX-2 a game with all females ITS THE WORST THING EVER...
Seriously give the all guy thing a chance, not like we've ever had an all male Final fantasy before, but nope gotta have a female or else it sucks, but it doesnt matter when its the other way around.
I mean
-All male party
-Messy writer change
-No strong female characters, are the summons all male too? Poor Shiva
This game is shaping up to be a mess
Queen Lightning doesn't look so bad now, does she GAF? Praying for FFXIII-4 @ this point
Why would you pray for XIII-4 when Tabata said that
Lightning replaced Stella
Like I said, I knew about this months ago. I'm more upset at Tabata for lying as long as he did.
yea he should have talked about this a lot earlier.
I'd love this for the meltdowns. Maybe introduce her with "Kept you waiting, huh?"
Bots are better than you
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Has the game reached Duke Nukem Forever-levels of messed up development and jokes yet?
What a mess, keep on pouring money on that game ... And plz continue to ignore DQ in the west ... NOT! Really hope that SQEX gets its sh*t together...
What a mess, keep on pouring money on that game ... And plz continue to ignore DQ in the west ... NOT! Really hope that SQEX gets its sh*t together...
Oh. Will there be new music in Gamescon trailer?
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you guys got your wish about the no-field-music thing tho
semiconscious
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Interfectum
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I mean
-All male party
-Messy writer change
-No strong female characters, are the summons all male too? Poor Shiva
This game is shaping up to be a mess
Queen Lightning doesn't look so bad now, does she GAF? Praying for FFXIII-4 @ this point
Having an all male party and no strong female characters doesn't necessarily mean the game will be a mess.
The writer change and the fact it's been in development hell for almost a decade does mean there are pretty big warning signs though.
Spehornoob
Member
I didn't hold any particular attachment to Stella, but a change in writers now? No trailer at E3? I'm not really feeling it. Is the new demo just an update or will it be released otherwise? I want to try this for myself to see if the gameplay helps change my mind.
Part of me (a lot of me, honestly), kind of just wants the series to lower it's scope a little bit. Hell, I'd take fixed camera angles and the ATB back any day. Especially if it meant less than five or six years in between sequels.
Part of me (a lot of me, honestly), kind of just wants the series to lower it's scope a little bit. Hell, I'd take fixed camera angles and the ATB back any day. Especially if it meant less than five or six years in between sequels.
AuthenticM
Member
Yeah seriously. Final Fantasy doing a bro road trip ? This has never happened before. In fact, even outside of Final Fantasy, I don't recall ever seeing this. Let them do their story: it sounds super interesting.
decoyplatypus
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I'm sure Nomura's vision is still intact and Tabata is just bringing the game across the hahaha
threelights
Member
They are literally using a demo to focus test the gameplay because they can't do their own vision for the game...
Also, story and script are different things people. Itamuro is doing the script. The story is still Nojima's (or a Frankenstein version of Nojima's)
MatrixMan.EXE
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Dissidia writer.....this game will make no sense. I can feel it already.
Paracelsus
Member
At this rate Versus will beat the record as the only game able of being three different games altogether: FFVersusXIII, FFXV, FFXVIgnis
So uhhhh... New avatar, Kagari?
Also, no sequels is good news.
I don't know man. If the story is as stand-alone as they say but the game sells dozens of millions, you can be sure they'll make sequels for it anyway, potentially creating new story arcs that make the original look bad.
I'm just saying I would prefer a well-constructed trilogy (or duology) with smaller story instead of one big story stand-alone story in one game and a sub-par story in the sequel.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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This has been answered repeatedly. The thread is only a few pages long.
Try reading it.
AuthenticM
Member
Gonna need a source on how Luna has no part in the action.
If they are ready to show
Why skip the bigger event where their company is hosting a press conference?
Baffling really
sensui-tomo
Member
I'd just like the game to come out, THEN shit all over it if it sucks, but hating a game because GENDERS is seriously the dumbest set of mentality a person can have... that'd be like not wanting to watch mad max fury road because it had women in it.... oh wait.......