Mental Health |OT| Depression & Co.
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CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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It would take days to weeks if at all. SSRIs don't have withdrawal symptoms, just a relapse into depressive or anxiety symptoms. You'll be fine if you miss a day; happens to me occasionally.
That's why. It's like birth control; it'll manage the mood so long as you take it regularly. Alternatively, you might have a low dosage.
I don't think any form of medication would cause you to withdrawal in less than a few days. You should be fine.
MisterLuffy
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Not yet. I will though once I see what my schedule is like. But I'm not sure if I'm going to work there very long since I applied for a part-time and they might let me go. On the other hand, they could keep me if I do a great job working there. However, I'm more worried about time since I want more time with homework and studying. My classes are going to be hard. I spoke with an adviser at the CS department about where I stand in this major. He told me about this CS class I'm going to take this fall that would be difficult. He suggested me to not overwhelm myself with other classes because of projects we're going to have in that class. I'm taking 4 classes this fall. Imagine how overwhelming it would be for me to work along with taking 4 classes. If I could rearrange my availability, it would be working at Monday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Awesome, thanks.
In regards to the relationship between depression and drug adherence, I don't know about any studies, but it would make sense that the effect depression has on memory negatively affects drug adherence.
Edit: Speaking of bad memory, I really hope I'm not just forgetting that I did take it. I'd be in for some pretty hardcore side effects if I accidentally took an extra 20mg of Escitalopram...
Will you be following up with your doctor soon? There are a litany of other medications that you can try!
A GP will be able to provide medication but that's about it. A therapist and psychiatrist will offer more specialized care in talk therapy and medication, respectively. Sometimes there is some overlap between the two.
I urge you to keep calling, and leave messages! Therapists and psychiatrists almost never answer the phone because they're in sessions all day long and probably don't get enough phone calls to justify having a dedicated receptionist. If you leave them a message with your info and ask if they're accepting new patients they should get back to you within a few days.
The therapist who DID answer was likely waiting for a phone call from a patient for a phone appointment, picked up thinking you were him, then needed to get you off of the line quickly so when the patient called it wasn't busy. Or at least, that's my guess.
As you said, ERs sadly aren't the best place for mental health care, though some are better than others. An ER that is attached to a larger mental health ward might actually have a mental health practitioner available all the time whereas a smaller set up might be limited to just emergency management.
Hang in there Bree, there are a lot of resources available to you. Your insurer's website is a good place to start, they often provide a list of covered providers within an x mile radius. Alternatively your GP may be able to provide you with referrals.
Well, my next questions would be overwhelmed by what, and out of sorts how? Once you've got a stronger ID on what factors are contributing to your suffering you're better able to modify your life to mitigate those factors. If you're interested in pursuing it, talk therapy is built to explore these questions. Alternatively, you can also make a lot of progress with personal reflection.
It's important to keep in mind that medication is symptom relief; it won't take away bad days and it won't fix all of your problems. It's just there to make sure that when things are bad they're at least much more bearable. That being said, if you're still losing the will to live than perhaps the medication isn't yet filling in all the gaps you want it to, though it may just need more time. If you're not happy with your medication, be sure to bring it up with your doctor.
I hope things look up in the next few days SevenDevils. Please let us know if there's anything we can do.
I'm really sorry you're suffering so heavily, Fish. Please let us know if there's anything we can do. Vent, PM, ask questions, whatever.
I hope things are looking up, at least slightly.
First of all, congratulations on the job! I'm so glad to hear that you got it
I must say I'm really struck by how quickly you've bent this fantastic success into feeling like a total, hopeless failure, or a disaster waiting to happen. It's only June; you've got plenty of time before the fall to figure out how your job will interface with your classes, and the answer will likely be clearer once you start the job and it's no longer an unknown!
Do you encounter such catastrophic thinking regularly?
Also, have you considered seeking therapy?
I would really encourage you to write out what you want to say in advance of your next appointment; it helps me tremendously.
I think you may be overestimating the quality of everyone else's upbringing. Everyone's childhood and upbringing had deficiencies and part of adulthood is exploring those shortcomings and catching up on what you've missed. While this can be frustrating and demoralizing it definitely isn't hopeless; rather, we are often able to pick up skills more quickly and concretely as adults than we were as children. I still maintain that at your age it is far from too late to catch up on what you feel you may have lacked in your personal growth thus far.
You also mention that it is painful. I have had similar thoughts. I don't understand how the anyone could ever expect me to cope with the painful, chaotic, uncaring universe, and live through the endless hurt it brings me. Yet that's the value of therapy. A therapist can help you work through why those experiences are so painful and how to mitigate that pain in the future.
I promise you it isn't hopeless.
You really need to take it every day for a while to get an idea of how it's going to affect you. If you've been forgetting, check out the app I linked below.
After a few particularly dramatic medicine screw ups I started using an app to check off when I've taken my medication.
They're trying to set me up with someone. But I heard that last year so this time, I'm going to be on top of them more. The curse of Medicaid. Any insight you have to offer on the joys of therapy would be appreciated. I mean, it can't be harder than Dark Souls, right?
Any insights I have about the joys of therapy?? Hmm...
Therapy is about the relationship between therapist and patient.
Also, therapy will require you to be uncomfortable.
That's all I've got for now. Further bulletins as events warrant.
After a while I got into this sort of groove with Dark Souls where it was hard, sure, but it didn't bother me and I knew that if I kept chipping away at it I'd come out on top eventually. I'm still working on having that attitude toward my life. It goes in and out.
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Ah, that seems pretty handy! I actually don't have a smartphone though, so that's not really an option for me. Haha. There are plenty of other ways I can keep track if I need to though. If this starts happening to me more often, I'll keep track one way or another, but for now it's not really an issue. Thanks though!
Honestly, you rock for not having a smartphone. This thing poisons my brain.
Alternatively you can get a pill case and fill it every week. If pill still in case, it wasn't taken. Simple!
Haha. Well thanks! People think I'm crazy for having one of these, but my thought is that I'm already on my computer enough when I'm at home. I feel like I don't need to be on it when I'm out doing stuff too. It's really nice, since it lets me fully appreciate hanging out with friends, being out places, or even just waiting around doing nothing since it gives me some time to just sit and think without feeling like I could be doing something more productive/interesting. I hope I never have to get a smartphone, to be honest.
Plus, my battery literally lasts a full month. It's awesome.
And cool, I'll keep that in mind if I decide I need to keep track of my meds better! Thanks for the suggestions.
blast processed
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Overwhelmed in the sense that I can't multi task like I used to. The position I'm in at work doesn't allow me to work one problem at a time, I have to make quick decisions all the time and I feel at this moment I can't do it. Because of that I don't feel myself which is why I said "out of sorts". I'm starting to think I can't handle this position anymore. I like where I work, I've been there quite awhile now but I just don't have it in me anymore.
I would love to cut my hours or days back, but I don't think thats a possibility. I feel I need to see someone and I reached out to a therapist that was recommended to me, but he seemed like an ass over the phone that didn't feel like being bothered. My Dr recommended someone, but at that time I was in the 2 week stretch where I felt good. I'm going to see what his availability is.
GalacticToast
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So, I just spent the weekend, well from Friday through Tuesday in a mental health center on an involuntary hold. I was held because I was considered a danger to myself, which makes sense. I bought a gun with every intention of killing myself with it. It didn't pan out that way, obviously, so I had to spend the entire weekend lying my ass of in order to get out of there. I was finally discharged yesterday. I was put on Zoloft, diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder. I guess it's not that big of a deal. I just, I don't know what I'm doing with my life. I graduate Saturday with a B.A. In Communication Disorders but...I'm just, kind of lost, I guess. I don't know how to be happy. I always ruin something that ends up with me being alone. I'm just tired of feeling so empty and unmotivated to do anything with my life. I've been going through the motions and doing what's expected of me, but never because it's something I've wanted. I don't even know what I want. That's probably the first problem.
Mengy
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I don't suffer from depression, and to be honest I've never really understood people that do. I mean I know it can be a result from physical health issues and chemical imbalances, but the entire idea of someone being clinically depressed just escapes me.
Then, yesterday I saw this video from Booggie on his youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7iTP-HaoFg
And somehow, after hearing him describe what living with depression can be like, and what he goes through daily, I actually think I have a better understanding of it now.
I think, for many people who don't suffer from depression, it can be very hard to sympathize, understand, or even contemplate what it's actually like. A lot of people are just ignorant of the reality of it I think. I know I am, or was, probably still am, but I feel like I have a better grasp of it now. I don't think society in general does a great job of making the issue relatable though, nor educating the majority of what it's truly like nor how common it is.
Hope all of you are doing well.
Then, yesterday I saw this video from Booggie on his youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7iTP-HaoFg
And somehow, after hearing him describe what living with depression can be like, and what he goes through daily, I actually think I have a better understanding of it now.
I think, for many people who don't suffer from depression, it can be very hard to sympathize, understand, or even contemplate what it's actually like. A lot of people are just ignorant of the reality of it I think. I know I am, or was, probably still am, but I feel like I have a better grasp of it now. I don't think society in general does a great job of making the issue relatable though, nor educating the majority of what it's truly like nor how common it is.
Hope all of you are doing well.
It's always kinda weird seeing depression and anxiety portrayed in popular culture. I was watching the trailer for this new game Hellblade, where the main character is a Celtic warrior with apparently really severe depression and anxiety and schizophrenia and other things in the spectrum of mental illness, and the whole world is essentially hell and she has to fight it. Gameplay looks meh but the premise caught my curiosity because I want to see how they handle it.
So I posted in that Duggar thread about how that whole case has been triggering me like crazy over the last couple weeks. Due to my cousin's abuse and me and my sisters. To add on top of that my insurance has been giving me the run around on my contacts for my Kerataconus and the long term disability just gave themselves an extension of another month to make a decision. I also got a friend invite on facebook from my brother out of nowhere. He was the abuser of me and my sister. Every day i've debated closing my facebook account because I don't use it anyways and I just didn't want to give him any avenue of contacting me, following me or finding me. It's given me panic attacks every day so bad I went through my bottle of valium taking extra's. That was fine because I was taking less than prescribed anyways for awhile so I had extra.
Luckily I have therapy tomorrow to talk about this but tonight I talked to my sister and apparently she gave him her email to contact her because he was trying to reach out to everyone. Apparently a couple years ago he was in a bad accident driving a semi and has severe back and neck injury. He almost died and he said it gave him perspective on everything he done and how shit his life was being alone with no family. I can empathize with the near death experience changing your perspective and doing things to you mentally since it happened to me with my heart problem. anyways he was trying to reach out to us to basically atone for everything he did and be a family with us. This has threw me for a bigger loop. I've always said he is the one person I would never forgive for everything he has done to my family, especially me and my sister. I can't help but thinking though at what point do I become the bad person for holding onto the hate and not letting it go. Or am I right to hold onto it to protect myself? My mind is a jumbled mess right now.
Luckily I have therapy tomorrow to talk about this but tonight I talked to my sister and apparently she gave him her email to contact her because he was trying to reach out to everyone. Apparently a couple years ago he was in a bad accident driving a semi and has severe back and neck injury. He almost died and he said it gave him perspective on everything he done and how shit his life was being alone with no family. I can empathize with the near death experience changing your perspective and doing things to you mentally since it happened to me with my heart problem. anyways he was trying to reach out to us to basically atone for everything he did and be a family with us. This has threw me for a bigger loop. I've always said he is the one person I would never forgive for everything he has done to my family, especially me and my sister. I can't help but thinking though at what point do I become the bad person for holding onto the hate and not letting it go. Or am I right to hold onto it to protect myself? My mind is a jumbled mess right now.
MisterLuffy
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Piano said:First of all, congratulations on the job! I'm so glad to hear that you got it
I must say I'm really struck by how quickly you've bent this fantastic success into feeling like a total, hopeless failure, or a disaster waiting to happen. It's only June; you've got plenty of time before the fall to figure out how your job will interface with your classes, and the answer will likely be clearer once you start the job and it's no longer an unknown!
Do you encounter such catastrophic thinking regularly?
Also, have you considered seeking therapy?
Thanks. No, I don't think therapy will help me. Catastrophic thinking? I had to look up what that means, and just reading this part "...it can increase anxiety and prevent people from taking action in a situation where action is required". I think this relates when I went to my orientation, watching videos, learning about customer service made me feel that I will not do my best there. Yesterday during the orientation, I felt uneasy when watching videos. Especially on customer service, just seeing the demonstration of customer service made me feel a bit discouraged because I can't emulate it. Whenever I open my mouth sometimes, I say the wrong things. Also, I tend to forget words I want to use in explaining something. I was the only one in the group who was not excited to work at a retail job.
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Ever tried Venlafaxin/Effexor?
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miss one pill and the withdrawal sets in
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
SNRIs and MAOIs use has to be pretty adherent and time of dosing matters, but SSRIs are not that bad especially on a low dose.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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Feeling like I need someone to talk to and have been feeling pretty bad for a while now. Not sure how this works but is there anyone available that I can talk to in a PM maybe?
I'd be more than happy to chat. Feel free to PM me if you'd like.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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Thank you. About to now.
I have a little update. I did something that is either crazy smart or crazy stupid, and right now looking like the former.
I emailed my former boss and explained everything to her. She said she has to discuss it with some people that are on vacation until late next week, but she is at least considering it.
I emailed my former boss and explained everything to her. She said she has to discuss it with some people that are on vacation until late next week, but she is at least considering it.
That's awesome! The very worst thing that could happen is you're exactly where you'd be if you hadn't sent the email. I really hope it works out!
Nice, that's cool!
I think reaching out to a therapist is a fantastic next step, SD.
It could be quite useful to explore with a therapist why it is you can't multitask like you used to - perhaps it's a greater anxiety or stress, but again, it's interesting to consider what the source of them is.
I hope you're able to make an appointment soon! Keep us posted if you feel comfortable.
Obviously being put on involuntary hold (or being in a mental health center in general) is an uncomfortable and unpleasant experience, but have you considered seeking mental health treatment on an outpatient basis?
I've found that the meaning of life is what we make it, and learning how to make that meaning is really, really tough. It's not as easy as just "deciding" to be happy - so try not blame yourself for not "knowing" how to be happy. The answer is different for everyone.
That being said, that answer absolutely, definitely exists for you. It might take some digging but there must be some clues as to what gives you purpose in life.
Is there anything that has been consistently meaningful or enjoyable for you?
Ponn01, I have no comparable experience I can pull from, and even if I did I'm not sure I, or anyone else, can really give you a definite answer on what you should do. What I can volunteer, though, is that you can't win a fight with your feelings. If your feelings have calmed to a point where you think you could bear the discomfort and uncertainty of crossing that bridge, then perhaps it's the time to do so, if you're so inclined. If your feelings are still too much, then they're still too much.
I hope you find some peace, no matter how things transpire.
Why don't you think therapy will help you?
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Insane Metal
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smokeandmirrors
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Went to my doctor and she's putting me on Welbutrin at least for the time being for anxiety/focus issues and she does seem to think it's possible I have adhd. Waiting on some bloodtests to come through on other stuff and then she said we'll work on it more. so at least I'm finally getting somewhere..
grap3fruitman
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How do you guys get answers from your doctors so quickly? It's been almost a month since I saw this last guy and I still haven't heard anything. Is there a trick to it?
smokeandmirrors
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It's a smallerish practice and I've known her for years now. Turn around for appointments for me is around a week or less. She also knew I've had issues with anxiety and knew I had been previously medicated so that might've sped things up.
My last doctor was like that but it was also a very large practice.
pixelation
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I hate it... that i'm basically living just because i'm forced to. And i hate all of the expectations that my family has for me and that i have been unable/unwilling to fulfill... wish i could just disappear and off myself w/o anyone ever knowing...
MisterLuffy
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Piano said:
Because I can't seem to help myself. I remember going to my counselor at college to share my problems. She does give me some advices that could help me, but I have to do the work. When you've mentioned catastrophic thinking and had to look up the meaning of it, I think to myself that I have this type of thing with school, jobs, life, etc. I always perceive things to be difficult and confusing. I want to tell myself that I should look at things differently in order to overcome hardships. It might not happen, hopefully it does in the future.
LurkerofThreads
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I am having some major problems and could use someone to talk to. I do not know what to do anymore.
You're free to PM any of us if you're having trouble.
Pyroclastic
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I have had therapy in the past but I think needed someone different as we just ended up going in circles towards the end. She was a really friendly, compassionate person, but I think I needed someone who would be a bit tougher on me.
I will seek it out but I think I should try and make an actual good attempt to get a career and be self sufficient first. I've had periods these last 6 years where I've felt incredibly bad and genuinely incapable of doing much but inbetween them there has been a lot of bone idleness.
Thanks. I talked about this at therapy and it helped me. I broke down unexpectedly and surprised them, I think the therapist was so surprised they were considering taking me over the mental facility across the street. They never saw me like that because i'm usually a rock. I still have my FB account and look at the friend request for about 5 minutes a day and then close it. I'm still lost but I feel I will come to a decision soon. I was glad I broke down though and talked about it because later a couple other guys in group came forward and were able to admit to their abuse after hearing me and said I inspired them to come forward.
Why you in hospital mate?
I have no friends. This doesnt bother me too much during the week as im busy with work but on the weekends its dreadful. I just spiral further and further down every wasted weekend of my life. Im 25 and on a saturday night laying in bed in the dark staring at the ceiling. The usual
Omega Ultimus
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Do you have any hobbies that you are currently doing or interested in that can possibly transition over to a social setting?
Do you live in a big city?
terrisus
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Spent about 45 minutes in the evening constantly vomiting.
Felt sick and dizzy and nauseous and all of that fun stuff.
My wife didn't really want to be bothered by it.
So I just called emergency to come get me.
They got me a bunch of fluids and anti-nausea stuff and such, and kept me there for a number of hours.
I think it was mainly a combination of the heat and motion-sickness (which is made worse by my issues from my stroke).
And then just kind of laid around in a bed in a hallway for hours, because, you know, US medical system.
I'm better now, I guess...
But, blah =(
Hope you feel better, terrisus. =) Head up and try to stay positive.
Rajack
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I'm not okay right now. Definitely not okay. I departed TransGAF for personal reasons and now I feel fucking gutted, empty, and I feel like discarded trash. Depression and anxiety are through the roof with dark thoughts and my self worth, self esteem, and desire to keep living rather than just existing are in the negative figures. I am absolutely and completely broken as a person. When will I be able to afford the mental healthcare I need to start functioning in the world again?
GAF, I was hoping someone had some advice for me. My friend since the cradle is really bad off. He's 29, drinking himself to death, facing worsening depression, and has no real future. He has a degree in biology, but that was 7 years or so ago and he's worked as dishwasher for close to 5 years.
I took him to Wal-Mart today because he was drunk and had forgotten to turn his car lights off last night and killed his battery, and then afterwards we're hanging out and within 45 minutes or so of drinking shot after shot he had to go back home to sleep it off. He tells me he contemplates suicide. I don't know what to do, he has no motivation, no drive. He's really lost almost all his intelligence because he just doesn't read anything or learn anything.
He has no money, so he can't go back to school, he has no skills, so he can't get a better job, he's gained a lot of weight and lost his once decent looks. We had to wait an hour for Wal-Mart to charge his battery and so he's telling me his problems today and I just had no advice to give. In the past I've tried giving him advice, but he would just make excuses why it can't be done. He comes from a successful family, all of them medical doctors, I'm sure they'd want to help if they knew what I know. Maybe provide him living expenses so he can get a decent apartment, quit his horrible job, and allow him to take out government FAFSA loans to go back to school.
What it boils down, I think, is this just a 'you can't save someone who doesn't want to save himself' kind of situation?
I took him to Wal-Mart today because he was drunk and had forgotten to turn his car lights off last night and killed his battery, and then afterwards we're hanging out and within 45 minutes or so of drinking shot after shot he had to go back home to sleep it off. He tells me he contemplates suicide. I don't know what to do, he has no motivation, no drive. He's really lost almost all his intelligence because he just doesn't read anything or learn anything.
He has no money, so he can't go back to school, he has no skills, so he can't get a better job, he's gained a lot of weight and lost his once decent looks. We had to wait an hour for Wal-Mart to charge his battery and so he's telling me his problems today and I just had no advice to give. In the past I've tried giving him advice, but he would just make excuses why it can't be done. He comes from a successful family, all of them medical doctors, I'm sure they'd want to help if they knew what I know. Maybe provide him living expenses so he can get a decent apartment, quit his horrible job, and allow him to take out government FAFSA loans to go back to school.
What it boils down, I think, is this just a 'you can't save someone who doesn't want to save himself' kind of situation?
I live in Sanford. (I know...why havent i killed myself after living here almost 30 yrs. Its such a shithole.)
I still haven't tried to call to make a doctor appointment. Nerves have been getting the best of me lately. Going to try this week.
i recently bought a digital piano in hopes of learning but i find it hard to motivate myself to practice. not that playing the piano is a social activity. only hobby i have that can transition into a social setting is the fact that im an alcoholic. i have no other hobbies to speak of.
i live in orange county CA. there are plenty of people around. im just too depressed to find the willpower to get up and get out.
im just venting really thanks for the concern tho. ive been this way so long i dont see a way out. im not even looking for a way out ive just accepted it
Have you tried to analyse why it is you think you feel this way?
Alcohol addiction is a life threatening disease.
Need to treat that first asap. No putting it off. No delays.
When I was taking lessons, my crotchety teacher would punish me for not practicing by smacking my hands with a ruler. Get me in a room with you and that digital piano and I'll get you properly motivated.
Seriously though, music is the one thing that really fights depression for me. I know it can be hard to get up there and do the work but man, I always feel so accomplished when I do.
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