Dude, nothing is going to happen to Rachel. Spokane Washington, while not very diverse, is still a very nice city to live in. About ten pages back, you wrote how you're worried someone may do something to her, now you're worried about her reading these pages. Is she a relative or something? I just don't get this outpouring of support you're giving? You're completely glossing over the feelings of others so that you don't trample over Rachel's.
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NAACP Leader Exposed as White Woman in Blackface
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Dude, nothing is going to happen to Rachel. Spokane Washington, while not very diverse, is still a very nice city to live in. About ten pages back, you wrote how you're worried someone may do something to her, now you're worried about her reading these pages. Is she a relative or something? I just don't get this outpouring of support you're giving? You're completely glossing over the feelings of others so that you don't trample over Rachel's.
Yup, I'm right there with ya. You've got to wonder if at least some people suspected, but didn't dare mention it in case they caused massive offence.
This is actually a much better, informative post. Thanks. Regarding the first bolded sentence, I guess I just had a hard time believing anyone would do something like this on such a large scale/for such a long time without something going on in their head. I mean, I can't imagine someone would put that much effort in for the lulz.
The second bolded sentence is an example of something I didn't know, and why I made a point to mention my ignorance of trans issues in every post since I was looking for explanations like that.
The Silver
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No seriously, what the fuck is "feeling black" supposed to mean? How does one "feel black"?
Is there there some different chemical makeup in the brains of all the different races? Is that where we're going now?
You wanna change your skin color to be darker or whiter go ahead, you wanna change your eyes to be more western or asian go ahead, that doesn't mean you've suddenly changed your heritage.
Is there there some different chemical makeup in the brains of all the different races? Is that where we're going now?
You wanna change your skin color to be darker or whiter go ahead, you wanna change your eyes to be more western or asian go ahead, that doesn't mean you've suddenly changed your heritage.
teruterubozu
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Actually the article says many board members had "longstanding doubts" and that many in the organizations "had questions about her representations about herself for some time." Heck, she even had private investigators on her case.
Bobby Roberts
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I believe in the article linked in the OP, there are quotes from NAACP members who knew what was up but essentially let it play out because nobody quite knew just what the fuck they were supposed to do with the situation.
Aaronology
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Implying that everyone could see she was white but didn't want to admit/face it? Which then implies there aren't plenty of black or mix-raced people who do, in fact, look white.
I think she was able to get away with it precisely because of how common biracial people are today. The why is what I'd love to know, though.
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Why does there have to be some sort of hidden motive to give people who could need support support? I post in all sorts of threads on these issues. I posted in the one about Chinese women forming a social movement committed to not shaving their armpit hair recently to support them, and I'm not Chinese or a woman and I shave my own armpit hair.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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So is there anything like "transracial" stuff?
Because there are differences between men and women whereas there aren't really differences (non-culturally) between colors of people other than skin...
Because there are differences between men and women whereas there aren't really differences (non-culturally) between colors of people other than skin...
Bobby Roberts
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No.
The term seems to have been coined yesterday, specifically in response to this bullshit.
Freewheelin'
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seeImplying that everyone could see she was white but didn't want to admit/face it? Which then implies there aren't plenty of black or mix-raced people who do, in fact, look white.
I was gonna say, someone must have suspected or wondered what she was playing at but who's going to accuse her without some solid evidence? Now her parents have just come straight out with it.
Go up to the next light-skinned black woman you see and ask her if she's really black or not without any sound evidence or reason and see how that goes for you.
DoktorEvil
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Her NAACP credibility and authority was based on her supposed experiences "as a black woman". It hurts the credibility of the NAACP.
If she had authority and credentials to speak on matters that she and the NAACP align on, changing her skin color should be irrelevant. She shouldn't have taken it upon herself to bronze her skin just to make her points heard.
I have no choice but to be brown skinned my whole life. She can take off bronzer and pretend to be someone else.
If there's anything I do not tolerate, it's people who are two faced. She is beyond two faced.
PhoenixDark
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Eh that strikes me as a meaningless position on this issue. What exactly did she lessen, in concrete terms? From what I've read she has worked on the Freddie Gray case, has worked with Marilyn Mosby, and has done a variety of other positive concrete things. I certainly wouldn't defend her lying about her identity, but ultimately the actual things she has done as an activist strike me as more important.
Could she have made an impact as a white person in the same position? Sure; the NAACP was founded in part by white people. Am I offended or mad at her for this? Nah...nope. If anything I find it hilarious on one hand, and unfortunate on the other because it could invalidate the work she has done.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Well, the term was actually coined by trolls on 4chan that hated transgender women so I wasn't expecting it to be an actual thing even after this...
Pristine_Condition
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She was deceiving a lot of people and putting money in her pocket doing jobs and taking leadership positions, teaching positions, and interview requests and attention that probably all would have gone to actual members of the community she was claiming to represent.
Theres also the very real possibility that she was falsely making police reports of crimes that may not have occurred, which, if indeed they didn't occur, wasted valuable police time and resources.
I fail to see how she wasn't hurting anyone.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Just hearing the term tingles my 4chan/8chan/ /pol/ senses.
I bet money they started that shit just to piss people off.
I can kinda see where people are getting ideas about trans people from; if you replace 'black' with 'woman' in some contexts, you get statements used by terrible people to shit on us (see that recent NYT article about Caitlyn Jenner and "real woman" bs), however, where that breaks down is the distinction between race (a social construct) and sex+gender (a biological construct in tandem with a social construct).
Cabbagehead
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Implying that everyone could see she was white but didn't want to admit/face it? Which then implies there aren't plenty of black or mix-raced people who do, in fact, look white.
I think she was able to get away with it precisely because of how common biracial people are today. The why is what I'd love to know, though.
After surgery.
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I'm (obviously) not worried about that. I'm more worried about the fact she'll be ridiculed and/or ostracised for the rest of her life, by pretty much everyone.
I'm not sure I agree. This woman's behavior passes through "make fun of her LOL" right in to "she likely has a mental illness."
Implying that everyone could see she was white but didn't want to admit/face it? Which then implies there aren't plenty of black or mix-raced people who do, in fact, look white.
I think she was able to get away with it precisely because of how common biracial people are today. The why is what I'd love to know, though.
New game of war ads in gaf threads now? jesus
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DoktorEvil
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This is the fuckery I cannot tolerate. Who knows how many people she stepped over just to assert herself as an activist and NAACP leader.
Cabbagehead
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That's her fault. She made that a possibility.
Dude Abides
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Why are conservatives so worried about how other people think about themselves?
Are their lives that empty and devoid of meaning that they have nothing better to do than fret about other people's lives that have no effect on them? Fucking weirdos.
Sorry if I come of as combative, some of the comments when it comes to this subjects come from a place of purposeful ignorance and equivocation. The topic its pretty complicated as it is, when it comes to "lying" there is a huge amount of types to it, ive once had a patient that faked a pregnancy to the point that she began to lactate. On the transgender biological differences I dont know much about the subject but this kinda helps to grasp how complex it is.
I do feel sorry for her, and I kinda regret mocking her on the first few pages of this thread, but then again im not black and im not gonna try to sell black people here how this is not worthy of their outrage because at some level its hurting them too.
Why are some people defending this woman? Even on gaf I have never seen anyone defending a "weeaboo." I remember a thread with someone who had a friend lying to everyone she was part japanese or something and people were claiming mental illness. There is no such thing as "transracial," race is a social construct that has no basis in biology.
Metalingus5150
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what the hell....
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She either has a mental illness or can't live with the way her body looks. If either those are acceptable reasons to ridicule someone, I want out.
I think an extreme example to explain what I mean would be to consider the guy who proposed the time cube, which was roundly mocked by many GAF members.
But for me, somewhere in the middle of reading that, I passed right through "lol look at this crazy person" straight through to "oh... he is really crazy. As in, he should probably seek professional help." That made the time cube a lot less funny, to me.
I feel that the woman in this thread is somewhere along the border between "Lol what an idiot" and "she should seek professional help." I don't enjoy making fun of mentally ill people.
But for me, somewhere in the middle of reading that, I passed right through "lol look at this crazy person" straight through to "oh... he is really crazy. As in, he should probably seek professional help." That made the time cube a lot less funny, to me.
I feel that the woman in this thread is somewhere along the border between "Lol what an idiot" and "she should seek professional help." I don't enjoy making fun of mentally ill people.
know what popped in my head while reading more and more about her, Münchausen syndrome by proxy. Not the exact thing but seems like they could be related.
Alligatorjandro
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Why do we assume she has a mental illness?
Anoregon
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Because what she did is fucking crazy.
John Kowalski
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If only.
Entertaining the ridiculous concept of transethnicity though and drawing comparisons with being transgender is equating that with mental illness.
I can't believe people on here are seriously doing that, out of a misplaced need to try and rationalise what she has done.
It's not an assumption, it's a possibility based on her behavior. I mean, I don't know if the time cube guy is insane either, but it sure seems like it.
Obviously I'd 1) need to be a doctor for starters and 2) need to examine the person to know for sure. But it's close enough that I think "okay, hold on here guys. Are we sure she isn't mentally ill? Because she seems sort of crazy, and not in the colloquial way we sometimes mean crazy."
You think it's rationalizing to say someone may be mentally ill? That's the opposite of rationalizing -- that is suggesting her behavior is entirely irrational.
Sho_Nuff82
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Lots of people suffer from self-hatred due to their appearance and skin tone, this is no way a bizarre or unique phenomenon. People who are biracial, adopted, or children of immigrants deal with cultural identity choices their entire lives. People fascinated with other cultures can and do immerse themselves into those cultures, their traditions, their languages, their histories. At all of this, few people would raise an issue.
She is attempting empathy by not only saying "I understand the African American people, I am knowledgeable of their experience, and love their culture", but by twisting this into "I am the African American people, I have lived their experience, I am their culture." It's a lie that not only trivializes blackness to mere skin tone and memes (eg "lol white people at the movies"), it does a disservice to the whole equality movement when people start asking questions about her dubious "hate crime" experiences.
Bobby Roberts
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Well, shit.
It's misplaced when it's equating it with something like being transgender to try and understand it.
ViewtifulJC
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bob_arctor
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Correct, in addition to ethnicity on a social level being much more than skin tone, hair texture, and a label.
Gee, i dont know. Maybe due to the fact that she is lying and manipulating people around her, that she has a fake "dad" and that she is making a mockery of the organization that she represents? Or that being black is simply a costume for her, that she can put on and take off whenever she feels like.
Lives that are devoid of meaning are the ones constructed upon layers of lies. Being a weirdo to me is accepting any and all forms of "i am a Horsekin!" without any critical thinking or logic.
But hey, thats like, my opinon, dude
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