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[Busaiku]

$60 via PayPal, $60 via Kickstarter so I could get physical PS4 and Vita copies.

There's probably an easier way to do that, but oh well!

You could just do $120 through Kickstarter.
When you get the backer survey after it ends, you can specify both versions.

 

[ArjanN]

2 hours
55k to go!

It's still 2 hours and 55 minutes, kickstarter rounds down on the hours.

 

[Hero Prinny]

Oh by the way, so some of you stop chatting, I was willing to make an exception and backed this and yooka laylee. So stop all your "YOURE OPINION DOESNT MATTER CUS U NO BACK!!" cause seriously, even if I didnt decide to back it, I should still be able to share my opinion without getting flamed. Especially about the boss thing cause if it was any other game some of you wouldve called foul as well

 

[Valkyri von Thanatos]

I slept on it and decided not to, but I do appreciate it exists. I figured that for what it is (6"x9", ~50 pages), I wouldn't pay 25 bucks for it if I saw it at a book store. Maybe 9.99, but not 25.

I've been very indecisive on this matter. Is this information just speculation? I've never heard of any specifics on it.

Edit:

Oh by the way, so some of you stop chatting, I was willing to make an exception and backed this and yooka laylee. So stop all your "YOURE OPINION DOESNT MATTER CUS U NO BACK!!" cause seriously, even if I didnt decide to back it, I should still be able to share my opinion without getting flamed. Especially about the boss thing cause if it was any other game some of you wouldve called foul as well

I do not completely agree with you, mostly restricting it to the $60 is the weird part, other than that I think backers deserve some kind of exclusive part. Preferably as DLC later, locking content forever always sucks. In any case, I did think it was little too hostile to basically declare you to be simply trolling. Lots of people did similarly when people expressed concerns on the extra platform stretch goals, and that too I thought was unfair to characterize people with concerns or controversial opinions as trolls.

 

[Stoof]

Fuck it, went in for $150. Also I decided to watch the stream on a whim and it's pretty good so far.

 

[AmethystEnd]

I've been putting off backing it because of a certain unease I feel with it, especially after MN09. Now I find myself with 3 hours left trying to decide.

I just look at it -- And I don't like it. I don't mean that I don't like Igarashi's games, I do, but I don't like what I see in terms of the Kickstarter. It's a big game show. It's so sliced up with gizmos and bonuses and gifts and stretch goals -- It's so parsed out. Something about this level of exploitation makes me uncomfortable.

But.. I love Igarashi's Castlevania games. (I just recently started playing Portrait of Ruin again in bed every night.) That's the conflict.

Exploitation? They're making the most of the platform (Kickstarter) in ways no other campaign has done so far, yes. Was there something in the campaign that was somehow against the ToS or against the spirit of KS?

It was sliced up to give us new goals to constantly be excited to reach. Until they're pulling what Inafune did, where they did ANOTHER campaign for some side thing without MN9 even being out, I can't see what could possibly be interpreted as "exploitative".

As for it being a "show", well what's wrong with that? They're entertaining the backers while pushing for more pledges. I consider this preferable to Kickstarters where the initial campaign video is amazing, but then we really don't get anything from the people running it beyond stretch goals being marked off the stretch goal chart for 30 days.

 

[R_thanatos]

Bismark the third ??

 

[Busaiku]

Bismarck Kappa III
Beautiful.

 

[Shouta]

Bismark Kappa the Third, DEAD

 

[chrono01]

We need Bismark Kappa the Third in Bloodstained.

 

[Sevyne]

Bismark Kappa the Third, DEAD

Needs to be the playable boss in Boss Revenge Mode.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Bismark Kappa the Third, DEAD

Attack on Kappaclysm

 

[KiteGr]

So.. what happens AFTER they reach the 5,5m stretch goal and there is still an hour left on the kickstarter.

 

[2345425]

Backed, 40k to 5.5m

 

[Stike]

Yeah we're just about 50k short of the final stretch goal.

Fantastic. Costume unlocked, Boss Mode unlocked... we can call it a day!

Was this the first game to achieve all available stretch goals?!

 

[Theonik]

Bismark Kappa the Third, DEAD

Make it so

 

[Hero Prinny]

Considering the description we got from Iga, it's gonna be a super weak joke boss.

The way Iga talks about himself as the boss he'd end up making the boss incredibly weak. I bet it's like, he goes down in like 3 hits and attacks very poorly.

Well thats good to hear

 

[Sou Da]

You should play D4

 

[munchie64]

Dual audio, hell yes.

 

[Red Arremer]

I've been putting off backing it because of a certain unease I feel with it, especially after MN09. Now I find myself with 3 hours left trying to decide.

I just look at it -- And I don't like it. I don't mean that I don't like Igarashi's games, I do, but I don't like what I see in terms of the Kickstarter. It's a big game show. It's so sliced up with gizmos and bonuses and gifts and stretch goals -- It's so parsed out. Something about this level of exploitation makes me uncomfortable.

But.. I love Igarashi's Castlevania games. (I just recently started playing Portrait of Ruin again in bed every night.) That's the conflict.

I don't see how pulling up a professional-looking project is "exploitation"?

 

[R_thanatos]

Ok let's look for a david hayter japanese counter part right now..

( as long as it's the same amount of voice as before i'll be ok with it , BTW )

 

[Jobbs]

Exploitation? They're making the most of the platform (Kickstarter) in ways no other campaign has done so far, yes. Was there something in the campaign that was somehow against the ToS or against the spirit of KS?

It was sliced up to give us new goals to constantly be excited to reach. Until they're pulling what Inafune did, where they did ANOTHER campaign for some side thing without MN9 even being out, I can't see what could possibly be interpreted as "exploitative".

As for it being a "show", well what's wrong with that? They're entertaining the backers while pushing for more pledges. I consider this preferable to Kickstarters where the initial campaign video is amazing, but then we really don't get anything from the people running it beyond stretch goals being marked off the stretch goal chart for 30 days.

I said something about this whole process makes ME uncomfortable, and I'm not entirely sure why. I feel like the need for a Kickstarter was the reason Bloodstained exists, rather than the need for Bloodstained leading to the Kickstarter existing. Since it's Comcept again, after how horrible M09 came out, I'm just.. Hesitant.

I don't see how pulling up a professional-looking project is "exploitation"?

They're exploiting, to the max, all the tricks and gizmos and flashing lights that are typical of Kickstarter, and it's something I'm just a little uincomfortable with, especially when taken to these extremes. Clearly my view isn't shared by all -- But I do feel kind of uneasy about the whole thing. The game should just be the game, not a series of components tacked together by stretch goals. That's not how good game design works.

 

[Dice]

Well at least we know Wii U will get one great 3rd party game in 2017.

 

[PandaPandaPanda]

they need a final stretch goal

5.75m bismarck kappa the third boss

 

[Rymuth]

Ok let's look for a david hayter japanese counter part right now..

Shuichi Ikeda

 

[ArjanN]

8-4 on stream now.

 

[Chaos17]

Someone with fine ears please tell us what they're saying because the volume is so low T_T

 

[AmethystEnd]

I said something about this whole process makes ME uncomfortable, and I'm not entirely sure why. I feel like the need for a Kickstarter was the reason Bloodstained exists, rather than the need for Bloodstained leading to the Kickstarter existing. Since it's Comcept again, after how horrible M09 came out, I'm just.. Hesitant.

Ah. Well, I can understand that.

 

[Shy]

Ok let's look for a david hayter japanese counter part right now..

Akio Otsuka.

 

[hawk2025]

I said something about this whole process makes ME uncomfortable, and I'm not entirely sure why. I feel like the need for a Kickstarter was the reason Bloodstained exists, rather than the need for Bloodstained leading to the Kickstarter existing. Since it's Comcept again, after how horrible M09 came out, I'm just.. Hesitant.



They're exploiting, to the max, all the tricks and gizmos and flashing lights that are typical of Kickstarter, and it's something I'm just a little uincomfortable with, especially when taken to these extremes. Clearly my view isn't shared by all -- But I do feel kind of uneasy about the whole thing.

MN09 came out? When?

It's not that it's "not shared by all", it's that you've failed to explain the logic behind why you feel this way. It doesn't make sense.

They are pitching a product to get investors. If the very idea of doing a good job in this objective makes you uncomfortable, then yes, you should stay away of this, and you should stay away of investments in general.

If you don't even understand this very basic fact, you will excuse me if I don't take seriously your knowledge of how "good game design works".

 

[ArjanN]

Someone with fine ears please tell us what they're saying because the volume is so low T_T

Turn up your volume.

It's just a general supportive message.

 

[Jotamide]

ART!

 

[Holy Order Sol]

I don't see how pulling up a professional-looking project is "exploitation"?

not poverty enough

 

[Red Arremer]

The game should just be the game, not a series of components tacked together by stretch goals. That's not how good game design works.

But that's not what the game is going to be. Have you even looked at the stretch goals?
We will get the base game, and the stretch goals are all just a bunch of extra bonus modes and characters to play. The main game is not really influenced by the stretch goals at all (beyond possibly the "biggest castle" one, which might indicate as big a map as they can make).

 

[Theonik]

Oh man. Iga REKT.

 

[Chaos17]

Oh by the way, so some of you stop chatting, I was willing to make an exception and backed this and yooka laylee. So stop all your "YOURE OPINION DOESNT MATTER CUS U NO BACK!!" cause seriously, even if I didnt decide to back it, I should still be able to share my opinion without getting flamed. Especially about the boss thing cause if it was any other game some of you wouldve called foul as well

I said something about this whole process makes ME uncomfortable, and I'm not entirely sure why. I feel like the need for a Kickstarter was the reason Bloodstained exists, rather than the need for Bloodstained leading to the Kickstarter existing. Since it's Comcept again, after how horrible M09 came out, I'm just.. Hesitant.



They're exploiting, to the max, all the tricks and gizmos and flashing lights that are typical of Kickstarter, and it's something I'm just a little uincomfortable with, especially when taken to these extremes. Clearly my view isn't shared by all -- But I do feel kind of uneasy about the whole thing. The game should just be the game, not a series of components tacked together by stretch goals. That's not how good game design works.

Kickstarter is our last bastion of hope to see dead IP/GENRE to get resurrected. Yes, everything ain't perfect but if we don't put our hope then our memories of the past will stay memories and never be revived because who would beleive in them if it's not their fans ?

Either you beleive and want put hope in those dreams or not.
And this thread is about carrying that hope and spread it as much as dreamers can.

 

[Ultimadrago]

This had better be good. Already pre-pre-regretting paying the little I did for Mighty No. 9 and I hope it doesn't happen again here.

 

[chrono01]

We're going to need a 6M stretch goal. Insane.

 

[FF Seraphim]

Waiting for the game is going to be the hard part... We all know it is going to reach 5.5m goal

 

[AmethystEnd]

But that's not what the game is going to be. Have you even looked at the stretch goals?
We will get the base game, and the stretch goals are all just a bunch of extra bonus modes and characters to play. The main game is not really influenced by the stretch goals at all (beyond possibly the "biggest castle" one, which might indicate as big a map as they can make).

Not sure if you saw the update, but they clarified somewhat about the biggest castle. Iga says that with that stretch goal reached, the world will be approximately 25% bigger than he had initially planned.

 

[Jobbs]

MN09 came out? When?.

I backed MN09 hoping and in part believing I'd be getting the real spiritual successor to mega man -- the next generation of mega man, similar to the transition from NES Mega Man to Mega Man X, which was vital and full of energy.

Instead we get...

It's not out, no, but despite backing it, all of my interest in the game has drained away after having seen it.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

There's a stream? Where?

 

[chrono01]

There's a stream? Where?

http://www.twitch.tv/ffstv

 

[Sou Da]

I backed MN09 hoping and in part believing I'd be getting the real spiritual successor to mega man -- the next generation of mega man, similar to the transition from NES Mega Man to Mega Man X, which was vital and full of energy.

Instead we get...

It's not out, no, but despite backing it, all of my interest in the game has drained away after having seen it.

Your screenshot isn't really indicative of anything. At all.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

LOL he posted that screen AGAIN

we get it, Ghost Song is the only honest KS ever

 

[Stike]

Waiting for the game is going to be the hard part... We all know it is going to reach 5.5m goal

Nah. Here's how I do it:

I am busy and focussed on other games that are out, or come out soon, and when the time has come, you suddenly receive that game here and think: HOLY SHIT!

 

[Red Arremer]

Not sure if you saw the update, but they clarified somewhat about the biggest castle. Iga says that with that stretch goal reached, the world will be approximately 25% bigger than he had initially planned.

Yeah I missed that. So the only main-game related stretch goal is the bigger map, and I don't see how that is "bad game design".

 

[R_thanatos]

Shuichi Ikeda

Akio Otsuka.

Ah ah ah .. let's hope they can surprise us

 

[Jobbs]

LOL he posted that screen AGAIN

we get it, Ghost Song is the only honest KS ever

I didn't say it was dishonest, I said something about it is making me uncomfortable, especially with Comcept involved. (edit: I meant Inti Creates, brain farted)

 

[zeopower6]

I don't think there's time to unveil one more goal ~