Roy (our boy) & Ryu confirmed for Smash Bros

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Roy is now to Marth what Ganondorf is to Falcon. Not completely removed, but just enough to not feel like the same character. Roy actually feels and looks like his own character even if his moveset isn't 100% unique. The small additions they've made really make him more palatable.
 
I've heard people saying that the Rhythm Heaven songs play in Miiverse... Has that been confirmed yet or is it just speculation? I hope that's not the case... Plus that'd be odd, since Miiverse already has a bunch of music for it on the disc...
 
He's hacking in order to play the characters. He's probably using some kind of exploit to make the game think he's playing Mario.

Nahh, he's switching what character is being loaded and everything most likely. Since Roy and Ryu are in the game (all their files and everything) he can switch what's being referenced and what to load etc etc.
 
The demand for Falcon getting the FS everyone's been wishing he had since Brawl is renewed

You just opened another can of worms, Sakurai.

Just imagine, you press a button on a certain frame of the current FS and the cockpit flies open, you hear the Meaning of Truth blaring from Falcon's bitchin' sound system in the Blue Falcon and all you hear is a deafening "FALCON PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH" while his helmet falls off, then suddenly pure white explosion.

As a bonus, you can play the rest of the match as helmetless Captain Falcon.

Edit: For extra stupid hype, using this makes you both lose a stock guaranteed.
 
Changing Roy actually makes him a more interesting addition.

Though he's still Fire Emblem Swordsman #573.

Sakurai/Smash's team unwillingness to pick cool side or supporting characters in a franchise where one of the main themes is the main character being a sworduser. :/
 
Not necessarily, I think that would be a bad design choice. What if I wanted Hadouken when someone was near? It very well could be but I hope it's a different input, like forward B.

Nah, it actually makes sense.

Hadouken is FOR long range, and you can do it anytime by just using neutral B. The Shoryuken seems like it only activates when using it point blank though so you can recover and not lose that final smash.
 
Hacking I guess.

Twitch chat is like a slow motion car wreck that you can't look away from.



The CSS isn't actually displaying the DLC characters and he seems to access them through Mario.

hax



It's weird...

Probably only way he could get them to be selectable on the CSS atm.

He's hacking in order to play the characters. He's probably using some kind of exploit to make the game think he's playing Mario.

Prolly the way the hack works to let him play as them and select the stage: tricking the game into thinking he's playing as a character and stage that are not locked.

Memory Hax

Thanks guys.
I asked because Twitch is doing some weird shit and keeps freezing on me so I thought it was some sort of bug (as the DLC is not supposed to be really availabe)
 
Technically he's Fire Emblem Swordsman #2

Lucina is one that tips it over the edge, trash character.

Yeah Lucy is the supreme bootleg clone, Roy actually has different stuff to him even back in Melee when they shared animations.

She on the other hand is Marth without tippers, aka rubbish. I really don't get why they didn't just put Chrom in like they initially planned if they were gonna go so half-hearted with her.
 
Luigi is the most by far.

Falco is probably ahead of Roy too.

Luigi really isn't as decloned as people want to think he is. 3/4 of his aerials are identical. His crouch animation, down smash, up smash, 3/4 of his throws, his walk and run animations, his backwards jump and double jumps are all directly from Mario. Even his idle animation is only slightly modified.
 
I'm at work and can't watch the stream at the moment. What major differences are there with Roy?

I only got to see a few minutes before he went back to the CSS.

Fsmash has a new animation
Ftilt is a new animation
Jab is a new animation
Usmash is a new animation with fire emitting from the sword (like PM Roy Usmash kinda)

And that's all I got to see.
 
Lol these leaks. There be some heads rolling at Nintendo.

Roy is now to Marth what Ganondorf is to Falcon. Not completely removed, but just enough to not feel like the same character. Roy actually feels and looks like his own character even if his moveset isn't 100% unique. The small additions they've made really make him more palatable.

Well least that good. I probably check him out then.
 
Luigi
Wolf
Ganondorf
Lucas
Falco
Roy
Toon Link
Dr. Mario
Dark Pit
Lucina

This is how I rank the clones right now from most separated to least.

I'd switch DP and Lucina since you at least have to change up your style a slight bit when going from Marth to Lucina whereas you can do the same stuff more or less as the Pits.
 
I only got to see a few minutes before he went back to the CSS.

Fsmash has a new animation
Ftilt is a new animation
Jab is a new animation
Usmash is a new animation with fire emitting from the sword (like PM Roy Usmash kinda)

And that's all I got to see.

His Fair has literally 0 startup. You use it and it's out like instantaneously
 
I've heard people saying that the Rhythm Heaven songs play in Miiverse... Has that been confirmed yet or is it just speculation? I hope that's not the case... Plus that'd be odd, since Miiverse already has a bunch of music for it on the disc...

It's just speculation since they're in the coding and are obviously not going to be associated with Dreamland 64 or Castle Rooftop. Hopefully they won't be so I can hold out some hope for a Rhythm Heaven stage.
 
I only got to see a few minutes before he went back to the CSS.

Fsmash has a new animation
Ftilt is a new animation
Jab is a new animation
Usmash is a new animation with fire emitting from the sword (like PM Roy Usmash kinda)

And that's all I got to see.
Very cool their updating him.
 
I only got to see a few minutes before he went back to the CSS.

Fsmash has a new animation
Ftilt is a new animation
Jab is a new animation
Usmash is a new animation with fire emitting from the sword (like PM Roy Usmash kinda)

And that's all I got to see.

Jump animation is new
Dash attack is new
Neutral special is unique
Up, down and side specials all have new animations
Idle stance is new (although not new to Roy, he always had this different from Marth)
Aerials are all new

He appears to only share his crouch, down tilt, down smash, run animations and throws with Marth.
 
Well, the stage the Rhythm Heaven music plays on is as of yet unconfirmed, just speculation. Far as I'm aware, there's no way to tell until the stages release. I think saying it'll play on Miiverse is valid enough speculation, but it's odd that it wouldn't have been with the rest of the Miiverse music from the start. Being added after the fact says to me "well we tried/considered adding a Rhythm Heaven stage, but now we're not so let's just slap some of this music wherever."

And if that's the case then THE ROAD TO SMASH 5 BEGINS HERE

and if it's not attached to any stage once the update rolls out then holy shit holy shit

All my fingers and toes crossed for a Rhythm Heaven stage

and character
 
Yeah Lucy is the supreme bootleg clone, Roy actually has different stuff to him even back in Melee when they shared animations.

She on the other hand is Marth without tippers, aka rubbish. I really don't get why they didn't just put Chrom in like they initially planned if they were gonna go so half-hearted with her.

Chrom would take Robin's spot in that scenario though. He'd have a completely unique moveset, but it'd be just a sword moveset. When they decided to make Robin, then Chrom lost his position. Meanwhile, Lucina was planned as a Marth costume and then at some point moved to clone. Chrom and Lucina weren't really competing for the same "spot".
 
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