SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!
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Interviews and press for sure. I mean the man is at E3. They're doing great there.
However, 2 of those updates were pretty minimal and not really related to S3. Plus there's no art on them. BloodStained had neat little pics with every update. They also had an aggressive campaign to get people to create fan art, videos, take related pictures/selfies, etc. I want to see Shenmue ask it's fans for that stuff because you KNOW they'll deliver. It will keep the hype going over the long month.
They aren't doing bad, but they could do a lot better, IMO. Maybe they're planning it all as we speak.
Yeah it has slowed down a ton, it doesn't seem like it will hit the bigger stretch goals.
i mean, it's par for the course for kickstarters, but the slowing down is a bit sad knowing there are many, many more stretch goals still ahead.
they need to address the physical ps4 issue, and add more tiers between 500 and 10,000
Seemingly not even gonna hit 100k today, so yeah, seems grim for the kickstarter's growth potential.
Sigh, those quotes from the KS. Ffs have they never witnessed a KS before? I hope it turns out that I worry in vain. I care less for my $300 pledge than the success of the game. No other product could get $3M on KS with this uninformative presentation.
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IrishNinja
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guys i know it's obviously slowed down, but this early on? plus the final push? we're hitting 5 mill easily, the question is how much past that, i think
yeah, wasn't clear on Rapport system either
oh god, i hadn't realized that was a cut thing until recently somehow, so i'd be all over that!
ahahahahahaha, game's not even worth bootcamp then? bye felicia
nice! but i absolutely hope they feel no need to expand the world beyond what feels right, shenmue was never a big open GTA. even 2 - which felt massive at the time - was tightly packed.
yeah, wasn't clear on Rapport system either
oh god, i hadn't realized that was a cut thing until recently somehow, so i'd be all over that!
ahahahahahaha, game's not even worth bootcamp then? bye felicia
nice! but i absolutely hope they feel no need to expand the world beyond what feels right, shenmue was never a big open GTA. even 2 - which felt massive at the time - was tightly packed.
I'd say this was expected.
1. All kickstarter projects start strong and slow down afterwards
2. Shenmue 3 had the biggest initial attention ever. A huge part of the kickstarter's target group (fans and enthusiast gamers who want to support the game for the sake of its fans) watched the conference live or read gaming media the day after. So they all already pledged money.
3. The game isn't that attractive to the rest without ports of Shenmue 1 / 2
Apart from that, the kickstarter is still doing well. I am also skeptical about that 5mio goal though.
I think this kickstarter campaign is terribly done. I have no idea what kind of game this is supposed to be, what sort of mechanics are to be implemented, no concept demo's of the said mechanics, an explanation of the stretch goals.
It's like they're only looking for money from people who are fans of the series. I can't back something I have no idea about. I expected a much more comprehensive pitch from someone who used to be the director of VF.
It's like they're only looking for money from people who are fans of the series. I can't back something I have no idea about. I expected a much more comprehensive pitch from someone who used to be the director of VF.
BoboBrazil
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Sony is a great fit for him and would grant him the budgets needed to do the projects he wants to do. They need a strong Japanese first party developer and he brings that to the table
Die Squirrel Die
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I'm looking at the kicktraq and they have todays total at just under $240k. That compares with $204k for Bloodstained.
Acquiescence
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If ever there was a time for a HD Collection to be announced, it's now. It's so frustrating that we're going through all this revitalised Shenmue attention and there's no simple means for the noobs out there to introduce themselves to the series.
This is what we need!
- An extra Pledge for people who want the Game and the Prequels.
- A port of the first 2!
I agree with you, and i'm a big fan of the Shenmue games. I've been thinking about the same...Why should people who have no knowledge of the Shenmue series back this? Sure, the record setting $2mill was most likely from people like me..hardcore fans.
You could always get info from youtube videoes etc, but let's face it, not many people are gonna do that.
And, considering that the orignal Shenmue cost about $50mill, one has to start to think about the scale and quality this third installment will be...even with Sony's backing.
Windom Earle
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Yep. I think I am going to take a break from this place for a while. GAF allows this type of negativity and propaganda to spread and prosper and I am just sick of it.
Not the biggest fan of how this whole thing happened but that isn't what's holding me back from backing, honestly. I love Shenmue 1 and 2 but the Kickstarter is pathetic compared to its peers and I doubt they'll remedy the issue.
Were it not for the Sony madness and e3 hysteria, it wouldn't have shot up so fast.
Tldr: blaming GAF for it screeching to a halt is dumb.
Were it not for the Sony madness and e3 hysteria, it wouldn't have shot up so fast.
Tldr: blaming GAF for it screeching to a halt is dumb.
To be fair, the Bloodstained people were blindsided by making a million in a day and were slow to update as well at first. That being said, this kickstater isn't remotely as well run or constructed as the Bloodstained or even Yooka-Laylee Kickstaters. Things could change in the future but relatively speaking this one is kind of amateur hour. Thankfully, people REALLY want Shenmue 3
Dude I know you posted in the Bloodstained KS thread. Are you still unclear how kickstarters work? LOL if you think GAF has anything to do with the slowdown
Well, most Kickstarters actually have a break down, usually in the form of a pie chart, of what chunks of percentage is going towards what (at least, many of the indie VNs I've been pledging). Usually x% to graphic design, x% to rewards, etc etc. That answer just basically says "we are using it for the game" which is one big obvious.
I don't think it's the negativity slowing it down. First and foremost I, like many, really want a PS4 version. They say they are not doing one for undisclosed reasons. I'm also waiting to see how things will develop before I up my pledge. I want the artbook, soundtrack, physical PC game, but if they make new tiers or whatever, I might get a different one. For now, the updates so far have only really said "thank you" without too much of the actual development really being said.
It's a little messy. They DID add more stretch goals, but didn't even mention them in their latest update! It's... odd that little attention is being paid, especially now seeing how much attentions the fans have with it. Needs more community management involvement.
Sick of people caring? What propaganda are you talking about? Fact: Most people wont just drop their money due to positive spirit.
gamechanger87
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I think the key for them is how many people are going to buy this game whom haven't played the first two. The first wave of people already bought it with their kickstarter money.
IrishNinja
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yup
but it's the same SOA that doesn't even release a cash cow like PSO 2.0 over here, so we know what we're dealing with right now
the stupid rampant negativity seems to be a vocal minority, no? just non-fans or port-begging for the most part, not really worth paying any mind over. i really don't see any correlation between GAF & this effort logically losing some of its monstrous steam though.
what if they were dropping their money on the conclusion of a beloved series with seemingly all the original creators on board though
Windom Earle
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Sick about being a forum for toxic clickbait websites like polygon and obvious trolls who never cared about the game and are just being negative for the sake of being negative. Shenmue fans had to take a lot over the years and now that the game is finally "real", it disgusts me that people are still trying to ruin it for us.
I do agree that the kickstarter is not well managed, this needs to be discussed and addressed. Different topic though.
shinobi602
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AHHHHHH!!!!! Crying manly tears...Corey MY MAN.
I certainly haven't seen much negativity. Then again, I didn't bother with the topic about how they did a KS during E3. It's exciting to see the development, but my main concern is with the KS campaign itself.
(Also, just don't go to Polygon.)
Considering how much it grossed at first, it's slowing down at a much bigger rate than other "big" KS, as far as I can tell.
LOL though. LOL indeed.
Dzab
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I woke up yesterday morning thinking that the announcement was a dream. My stomach dropped.
I grabbed my phone, saw the last viewed page -- I still can't believe it.
We've all waited so long, I'm just overjoyed that it's happening, and happy for everyone else that's remaining positive and excited!
We did it guys.
I grabbed my phone, saw the last viewed page -- I still can't believe it.
We've all waited so long, I'm just overjoyed that it's happening, and happy for everyone else that's remaining positive and excited!
We did it guys.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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I was still pretty young when I played 2 and hadn't lived in a big city myself so I actually got a little homesick for Ryo's hometown and ended up enjoying the game less.
The city was just too big and unfamiliar.
Now that I've travelled around a bit, including Hong Kong itself, the game has a completely different feeling.
Maybe you'd like it more now if you tried it again...?
Ehhh might be a nice, albeit extremely forced, reference but I don't want forklifts becoming a staple of the series.
They made sense as a job in 1 as you lived next to a harbor, but I want them left there.
(racing was fun though!)
Ryo Hazuki
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Haha, yeah, I'm with you. Definitely not something I want to see for the sake of it. Though after 14 years I guess half of me selfishly wouldn't be opposed to a very tiny piece of fan service as long as it's in context with the game. Let's be honest though, just playing Shenmue again is the ultimate fan service so I'm excited for whatever at this point.
Sure, I am doing the same thing but I still think the organizers of the campaign need to step their game up.
Ok, I've not experienced that myself, but then I have also not been participating in the discussions on gaf for that long. But then we are on the same level on that the campaign need to improve.
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brianmcdoogle
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Still no stretch goal for a physical PS4 copy 
Also, what are the cinema shorts? I kind of just want a movie of 2 akin to what they did with the first game.
Also, what are the cinema shorts? I kind of just want a movie of 2 akin to what they did with the first game.
GutsOfThor
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Those blaming Gaf for the slowdown are giving Gaf wayyyyy too much credit.
Slowdown like this is normal for the majority of kickstarters is it not?
Slowdown like this is normal for the majority of kickstarters is it not?
Yes they are. Things hype up for the first couple days and then slow down for a while as stretch goals get revealed over time.
Ryo Hazuki
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Still not sure what the Character Perspective System strictly is. Sounds like you'll be able to play as different characters maybe? Hard to say.
Really glad to see them address and update us on the new goals though! Still need more tiers.
Has this been posted at all? https://noobdigest.squarespace.com/
Just spotted it on reddit and it's a really great read (especially if you'd never played Shenmue before).
Just spotted it on reddit and it's a really great read (especially if you'd never played Shenmue before).
IrishNinja
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oh...yeah, can't really argue with that honestly
Pleased to see that it's getting a skill tree system and I do like the sound of the other stretch goals too. The only issue that I have with this is that whatever they announce as stretch goals, I'm still going to want more.
I do like how they are "structuring" the stretch goals.
It seems like it's basically about enriching the bones of the current structure that they have already planned more. More events, more missions, more mini-games/jobs.
All that stuff is what made Shenmue 1 and 2 richer experiences, but it's not central to having the basic setup and the basic story in place.
It seems like it's basically about enriching the bones of the current structure that they have already planned more. More events, more missions, more mini-games/jobs.
All that stuff is what made Shenmue 1 and 2 richer experiences, but it's not central to having the basic setup and the basic story in place.
A lot of Shenmue's events were about being at the right place at the right time, and seeing it from Ryo's perspective. I assume that they can add the "perspective" of other characters?
Still cant believe this is happening!
A HD collection would be great and with Sega ready to pump out more PC games after VC surprise success, lets hope they do.
They should time the release well if they ever do release it. Ie not too early perhaps and release it closer to the release of S3 to gather momentum and hype etc. Maybe even release some mobile games like an endless runner with the forklift or lucky hit mini game.
A HD collection would be great and with Sega ready to pump out more PC games after VC surprise success, lets hope they do.
They should time the release well if they ever do release it. Ie not too early perhaps and release it closer to the release of S3 to gather momentum and hype etc. Maybe even release some mobile games like an endless runner with the forklift or lucky hit mini game.
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It'd be better if non-emulated shots were used in all those games...
Die Squirrel Die
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What if Ryo has a dream that he's back in Yokosuka, racing forklifts? Then we not only could get forklifts, but an Unreal Engine 4'd up version of the harbour.
I think it's too early to say if it's slowing down faster or if it's just settling after being artificially spiked by being launched during Sony's E3 conference. As I said Shenmue 3's day 3 total, although a bigger drop from its day 2 total, is actually higher than Bloodstained's day 2 total.
As it stands Shenmue after 3 days has more funding than Bloodstained did after 21 days. So I think we'll just have to see how the drops are over the next few days to really tell if it being more frontloaded is going to be damaging to it's overall projections in the long run.
I think it's too early to say if it's slowing down faster or if it's just settling after being artificially spiked by being launched during Sony's E3 conference. As I said Shenmue 3's day 3 total, although a bigger drop from its day 2 total, is actually higher than Bloodstained's day 2 total.
As it stands Shenmue after 3 days has more funding than Bloodstained did after 21 days. So I think we'll just have to see how the drops are over the next few days to really tell if it being more frontloaded is going to be damaging to it's overall projections in the long run.
MassiveNights
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The Kickstarter has definitely slowed but it has still raised $280,000 in its second 24 hours.
Which is pretty good going by most Kickstarter standards.
Which is pretty good going by most Kickstarter standards.
Soyongdori
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I'm guessing the entire game will take place in remote village, instead of part of the city in Hong Kong, or another Chinese city?
You're right. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
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