SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!

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Corto said:
No. But Yu Suzuki can keep accepting pledges outside of the KS campaign as Star Citizen is doing right now.
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I asked that question thinking about the possibility of:
1 - SEGA decide to release remastered versions of Shenmue 1 and 2.
2. The physical version of ps4.
3- A version for Xbox One.
 
celsowmbr said:
I asked that question thinking about the possibility of:
1 - SEGA decide to release remastered versions of Shenmue 1 and 2.
2. The physical version of ps4.
3- A version for Xbox One.
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If Microsoft support the Shenmue team the same way like Sony then we'll get an Xbox One version. Unfortunately, Microsoft turned the project away like all the other publishers out there, only SONY decided to go for it. Let's see if Microsoft change their minds now they saw the Kickstarter explosion.
 
I'm posting this quickly because I need to go out in a second, so bear with me if the thought process is a little muddled.

What if 'Sony will make this thing happen' and 'Sony are only contributing logistical and marketing support' aren't as contradictory as they look? Adam Boyes on the Giant Bomb thing, when addressing why Sony didn't just fully fund the game themselves, talked about how if they were going to be putting that sort of backing to the project they'd have to do a lot of their own internal projections and analysis, while also requiring stuff like full exclusivity.

So say Yu Suzuki has the $10 million budget in mind for what he wants to do with Shenmue III. For Sony to fully fund that it goes back to the previous paragraph, internal processes, full exclusivity etc. So what if all Sony can contractually guarantee at the moment is the logistical and marketing support, because they have the procedures and set up to do that already, it's not something they'd need to do any internal analysis on before giving the go ahead. Any budget funding that's more direct needs to go through their processes, so they can't commit themselves to a certain amount to get the budget to where it needs to be until the a) know what that amount will be, which won't happen until the KS is over and b) do their number crunching for their own financials, which might be a lenghty process.
 
Gamezone said:
I don't get why it's a problem for Sony to support this game with more money.
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It's a financial risk for Sony and getting the greenlight by executives would takes a long time. If Yu Suzuki was given a lot of freedom to make the game like the way he wanted it would be a very expensive endeavor. Remember that Sony as a cooperation isn't ding too well right now despite the PS4's great performance.
 
A release of HD versions of Shenmue e Shenmue 2 is outside of Yu Suzuki, Ys Net or Sony power. Sega is the only one that can decide on its release or not. For us outsiders it may seem it would be a sure thing in terms of financial success but there could be hurdles that we don't have knowledge of that would prevent that success. Maybe a release closer to Shenmue 3 release would maximize each game success. We can only hope...
 
Everblue said:
What if Angry Joe gets pissed by "oh look Sony are funding Shenmue but they have the cheek to ask for money via a Kickstarter" instead?
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Eh, it's still worth a shot isn't it?

Or maybe we should just try PewDiePie? Make him do some good! Could you imagine if he and his followers were on board? We really need to give it a good shot. He'd bring in a huge crowd. **goes to twitter**
 
Everblue said:
What if Angry Joe gets pissed by "oh look Sony are funding Shenmue but they have the cheek to ask for money via a Kickstarter" instead?
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Yeah, given how upset some people have been about some of the mainstream coverage of this, they might be charging into a 'be careful what you wish for' situation with that sort of stuff.
 
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Gamezone said:
I don't get why it's a problem for Sony to support this game with more money.
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You mean why it's 'problematic' or why is a problem for Sony? I have nothing against Sony helping fund the game. From Sony's perspective they are a business not a charity so they are going to do as much as it makes sense from them to do. For them the good press they got made it worthwhile so far, but they really have no reason to throw millions into this which is fine.
 
Kensuke said:
I've read a lot of stuff that explains why Shenmue was so special back in the day. Reading that makes me skeptical of Shenmue 3 though. All I hear is how amazing the graphics were and how the world is filled to the brim with little details. They were very unique games at the time.

Given the limited budget, dev time, Suzuki's absent time, and the fact that there are more games like it now, it makes me wonder if a new Shenmue can be as special and unique. Is it more about finishing the story now? I'd love to read an insightful article or post that explains why playing the old games would be amazing even today. Just looking for an excuse to get into this franchise.
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It probably won't be as special and unique but rather just satisfy the fanbase clamoring for a sequel for the past decade. I think it would be great if Shenmue 3 turned out to be a bigger success than expected and Shenmue 4 became the modern sequel you would expect from this franchise. I'm not holding my breath, however.
 
GavinGT said:
Shenmue would've had to be purchased twice by every Dreamcast owner for it to turn a profit.
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This fact is as oft-circulated as the fact the first Shenmue cost $70m and both are rather disingenuous.
It paints Shenmue as something destined to fail from the jump and is regularly cited when referring to Sega's disastrous business practices of the time.
Shenmue 1 was never intended to turn a profit.
Had the series produced 4-6 retail releases as intended, cumulative sales may have topped 5 million which would've been very profitable!
This is always overlooked though by those who love to portray Shenmue as a colossal failure, but it's neither fair nor accurate.
 
I think you people should chill out a bit. Yes the campaign has slowed down but there is time and that kind of drop is normal. No need to start harassing people burning whatever goodwill the announcement has brought for the Shenmue community.
Edit: Share why the game is important to you share news, make fanart and generally try to bring whatever excitement you have for the game and why it means a lot for you to get funded wherever you can. It's this stuff that sells the game. Not stupid interview collages and "MY CONTROVERSY IS HURTING MY CAMPAIGN I HATE EVERYONE" I mean, those people are really not going to be swayed and you are really painting the community in a negative light here.

King Awesome said:
It probably won't be as special and unique but rather just satisfy the fanbase clamoring for a sequel for the past decade. I think it would be great if Shenmue 3 turned out to be a bigger success than expected and Shenmue 4 became the modern sequel you would expect from this franchise. I'm not holding my breath, however.
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The original games do many things that you don't see in open world games even today, it's only just now that other games are catching up. The control system might be dated since it was made with the Dreamcast in mind but I think the original games still have an interesting experience to show.

Shenmue III is a different kettle of fish though, and only time can tell if they can deliver on the original legacy. Certainly it will be harder not having full first party flagship resources backing it, but at the same time they can match much of the original experience at a much lower budget today. It just won't be the heavy hitting AAA title that it would be back then. But I think most Shenmue fans have long given up on that dream.
 
I'm really crossing my fingers for 10 million. That would be true magic.
 
Lynn616 said:
Why? It is already funded.
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If we went that like that, Bloodstained was already funded at 500,000 but was it was just the base game, it hit all the stretch goals for the entire package we would have missed out on, same holds true for Shenmue, save Shenmue is a much more ambitious/pricier than Bloodstained and that needed $5 million to hit all it's stretch goals.
 
At this rate the kickstarter will end at 6-7 million

after fees and taxes they will get about 5 million

So if they agree to work on minimum wage and get pay out once its released, they'll make a true sequel
 
I think everyone's missing the fact that YSNet has already stated they have secured multiple funding sources outside of the KS. Yes they have stated that the KS is profoundly important and the primary source of funding - I'm not disputing that. However much of the posts I'm reading here are acting like the KS will be the game's total and final budget when this is simply not true. For example let's say the KS hits a modest $7 million. YSNet's additional funding sources could amount to say $3 million bringing the game's final budget to that magical $10 million number without the KS having to hit that amount. Merging all of the funding sources together the game should theoretically have a strong and formidable budget.

They have already secured multiple funding sources in addition to the KS. We know one of the investors is Sony though the vague comments we've read indicate that their investment is marginal. YSNet however also have funding sources in addition to Sony. I wouldn't be surprised if these undisclosed funding sources in tandem with a strong and successful $7 million KS bring the game's final budget in to the $10 to $15 million range. The point I'm trying to prove is that these funding sources and their amounts may be undisclosed but that doesn't mean they don't exist. There is additional funding available to YSNet outside of the KS campaign and that money is definite and secured.

When all is said and done I wouldn't be shocked to hear that the game's final budget is $15 million. The other funding sources are unknowns. They could be more substantial than we presume.
 
GavinGT said:
So we lost another jacket buy and gained a new one?
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Naw, Mr. Earthbound is right. It took about ten minutes for the change to happen on the webpage.

The dinner opening would be very very interesting except my past self never did finish those Japanese lessons and I am kind of hating myself for it right now.
 
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