SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!

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Yeah, it's sad to see the momentum slow down so much. After the brilliantly managed Bloodstained, where people where thrilled to see the updates every day, this seems to have almost no support to keep interest going. The AMA was a good step, but I didn't see many big questions answered. The questions about the game are all hurting it, and many people are holding back hoping for a PS4 physical edition.

Then again, so many people have ridiculous expectations, and I suspect some people would only back a DC version.
 
gamerforever said:
Exactly - my main worry is the fact that the series may not continue past shenmue 3, but i guess they will start another kickstarter campaign for shenmue 4 and get similar funding, unless sony see it as a good investment.

This will be out in 2019, to coincide with the 20th anniversary imo.

Must get the dreamcast out - sold a few dreamcast goodies a while back as i never thought i would play on it ever again!
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If they can make Shenmue III making Shenmue IV is easier. They now have new assets, and a much better case to show to investors, Shenmue is a living IP again it's going to do numbers. It won't sell AAA multi-million numbers but enough for a publisher to decide whether to invest or not, and of course they can use KS to get additional funds again.
 
Diomedeskun said:
Yeah, it's sad to see the momentum slow down so much. After the brilliantly managed Bloodstained, where people where thrilled to see the updates every day, this seems to have almost no support to keep interest going. The AMA was a good step, but I didn't see many big questions answered. The questions about the game are all hurting it, and many people are holding back hoping for a PS4 physical edition.

Then again, so many people have ridiculous expectations, and I suspect some people would only back a DC version.
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Bloodstained did not have gaming outlets and blogs left and right proclaiming its KS was shady and/or suggesting people should stop funding as Sony already pledged the rest of the money needed and you might only risk giving Sony the extra money, etc... It seriously dampened the hype IMHO and unjustly so... Hopefully they move past all that.
 
People seem to forget than Shenmue wasn't sold that much, and on the absolute failure that was the dreamcast.

And we are 14 years after this.

From the people who :

1) played it

2) liked it

3) got the sequel and finished / liked it

4) STILL play video games

5) keep up to date with news on video games

6) have ever heard of kickstarter

How in hell do people dare say that this is "weird" it doesn't get more "fans" ?

They were games ahead of their times, absolutely beautiful and wonderful games, that's why people wanted a sequel, but in no way were they ever popular. Not many people touched this.
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Bloodstained; nice stretch goals, more tiers, and nice physical copies to make people happy.

Someone needs a kick in the ass to get this in gear better for Shenmue, and Bloodstained managed physical PS4 copies and it was supposed to be more modest project comparative to Shenmue, but Shenmue can't because 'reasons'? The hell is wrong with this picture?
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They also kept the community active with the backer achievements that unlocked more things.
 
Slaythe said:
People seem to forget than Shenmue wasn't sold that much, and on the absolute failure that was the dreamcast.

And we are 14 years after this.

From the people who :

1) played it

2) liked it

3) got the sequel and finished / liked it

4) STILL play video games

5) keep up to date with news on video games

6) have ever heard of kickstarter

How in hell do people dare say that this is "weird" it doesn't get more "fans" ?

They were games ahead of their times, absolutely beautiful and wonderful games, that's why people wanted a sequel, but in no way were they ever popular. Not many people touched this.
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Shenmue I has a similar attach ratio to Skyrim (1.2 million to a userbase of ~10 million compared to ~20 million to a userbase of ~200 million). If it didn't cost so much to make it would have been considered a success sales-wise.

The deal to bring Shenmue II exclusively to Xbox in the US is the reason it sold poorly. It still had respectable numbers on the Dreamcast despite the system essentially being dead at that point, but the US was it's biggest market.
 
N.A said:
Shenmue I has a similar attach ratio to Skyrim (1.2 million to a userbase of ~10 million compared to ~20 million to a userbase of ~200 million). If it didn't cost so much to make it would have been considered a success sales-wise.

The deal to bring Shenmue II exclusively to Xbox in the US is the reason it sold poorly. It still had respectable numbers on the Dreamcast despite the system essentially being dead at that point, but the US was it's biggest market.
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That doesn't even make sense.
 
Stats updated:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Fsfu-22G6hGTuZ2fxfIj8GlT0NaRkFlLbpw8TmpAX7M&authuser=0
- 23 of June is the new worst day both in terms of collected $ and #new backers.
- $-amount was lower than any day for Bloodstained, however Ouya had worse days.
- #new backers is not as bad, both Bloodstained and Ouya had worse days.
- Bloodstained had it's worst day (in terms of $) 4 days later. Ouya even later. Worst #new backers days about a week from now for the same titles.

See also:
https://shenmuetalk.wordpress.com/stats/
- Almost 20% (when reaching 3.6M) on the way to next stretch goal counting from 3.5M to 4M.
- Next milestone 45K backers.
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Bloodstained; nice stretch goals, more tiers, and nice physical copies to make people happy.

Someone needs a kick in the ass to get this in gear better for Shenmue, and Bloodstained managed physical PS4 copies and it was supposed to be more modest project comparative to Shenmue, but Shenmue can't because 'reasons'? The hell is wrong with this picture?
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It's a logistical nightmare to sort out and it has just been over a week. I'm sure by the end of this week, if they can do it then they will provide it. They can't just add the tier without any plans of how feasible it is (finding a distributor etc).

Glad to hear more reawrds coming soon! I'm going to be bumping mine to at least the artbook pledge but we shall have to see what else is added.
 
MaulerX said:
It's a heavily story driven game. Most people that want a sequel are the ones who actually played the first two and want to see what happens to Lan Di. At least the OG Xbox version of Shenmue II came with a movie DVD of Shenmue so players could catch up on the story. Anybody else won't know what the hell is going on.
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Not sure if you read this but as of the $2.5m goal, this also comes with a recap movie of sorts.
 
Why are people so surprised the funding pace has slowed down? Most kickstarters slow down significantly after the first few days and don't pick up again until the last few days.

Yeah the Shenmue kickstarter may of slowed down even more then some other recent ones, but it's not exactly surprising. It was announced at the biggest gaming event at the press conference of the most popular game console currently on the market. It caused the Kickstarter site to go down, which as far as I know has never happened for any other game kickstarter. It's not exactly surprising that the funding and number of backers is even more front loaded then other kickstarter campaigns.

I'm sure it will pick up towards the end and raise an amazing amount of money. It probably wont do $10 million but $4-5 million seems like a good possibility.
 
45,000 backers.

hopefully the new stretch goals, tiers, etc are very soon. i'm excited to see them reignite the fire under this kickstarter a little.

also totally accidentally posted this in the batman pc port thread...
 
The KS inspiried me to bust out my Japanese copy of Shenmue. I think it's funny that FREE (Full Reactive Eyes Entertainment) is actually listed on the back the box with the vital game details (such as memory block usage, VGA support, number of discs etc). ;)

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I've been checking the last few days and it's sad to see that people have stopped backing. They really aren't doing enough to spread the word, just look how Playtonic did the Yooka-Laylee stuff, they were barking on about it for 30 days.

I'll be very surprised if this hits 5 mil.
 
Way too low starter funding goal is a huge issue and it shows; also, if they went multiplatform it would do wonders for the campaign + more stuff around it, more meta-shit just to make it seem alive

My timeline was full of Bloodstained shit 24/7
 
celsowmbr said:
The Shenmue 3 Kickstarter appears to have stalled. Time to announce other platforms?
http://m.n4g.com/news/1748145
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The campaign needs to get its shit together.

This is the worst Kickstarter from a known developer I have ever seen. Its entire campaign is just "We want to make Shenmue 3. Give us money". No updates. No weird side video features. Stretch goals with no explanation of what they are.

Coming from Bloodstained which kind of over did its Kickstarter meta bullshit to this which is real jarring.


Multiplatform would help a little but I think this has bigger issues.
 
Alpha_eX said:
I've been checking the last few days and it's sad to see that people have stopped backing. They really aren't doing enough to spread the word, just look how Playtonic did the Yooka-Laylee stuff, they were barking on about it for 30 days.

I'll be very surprised if this hits 5 mil.
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It's like they're only paying the Kickstarter guys to work an hour a day, 5 days a week.
 
Kagoshima_Luke said:
The KS inspiried me to bust out my Japanese copy of Shenmue. I think it's funny that FREE (Full Reactive Eyes Entertainment) is actually listed on the back the box with the vital game details (such as memory block usage, VGA support, number of discs etc). ;)
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Didn't know GD-ROM had an official logo.
 
I never expected the Kickstarter to come to such a screeching halt. I'm not sure what they can do to fix this. The platforms are not likely to be an issue since it is on the two that matter and it got tons of exposure at E3 so everyone already knows about it. I guess the internet hype has been used up and now it is relying on Shenmue fans (which I think are relatively few in number). Maybe they should release a trailer showing off the epic open world
in CGI
? :p
 
celsowmbr said:
The Shenmue 3 Kickstarter appears to have stalled. Time to announce other platforms?
http://m.n4g.com/news/1748145
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What a weird article. I'm sure other platforms would obviously help but there's more issues with the tiers and the way the Kickstarter is being run than that. Think we all just need to wait and see what new tiers are added soon, as Yu Suzuki said they're coming, which that article doesn't even mention.
 
Really guys, just take a deep breath and relax.

The drop in funding is a fairly normal trend for kickstarter campaigns and they've actually been updating a decent amount.

There'll probably be a couple more funding spikes in between when they announce more stuff.

It's going to make about 6 million and be the most successful game kickstarter ever.
 
N.A said:
Cancelling the release of the Dreamcast version of Shenmue II in the largest market of the original to release late on an unproven platform obviously had an effect on sales.
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I think it was a gambit to expose the franchise to a platform that was actually alive. Probably sounded like a good idea at the time.
 
ArjanN said:
Really guys, just take a deep breath and relax.

The drop in funding is a fairly normal trend for kickstarter campaigns and they've actually been updating a decent amount.

There'll probably be a couple more funding spikes in between when they announce more stuff.

It's going to make about 6 million and be the most successful game kickstarter ever.
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Yeah! :D

Also don't worry too much, that game is already funded so you are still going to get an awesome experience in a few years time it just won't be as expansive as a $10 budget or a $100. There is always room for improvement but I'm sure the base game will feel like the Shenmue games of old!
 
MaulerX said:
Exactly the bolded.
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It is a reason, there is no single reason why Shenmue II didn't sell so good. People bought Shenmue I in relatively large quantities on the Dreamcast (1.2m units on a ~6m base at the time), but then they struck a deal and printed limited copies of it in PAL and no copies of it in the US for the Dreamcast. They then released the game on the Xbox which was also not a very successful platform and at the time Shenmue II came out was at its infancy, if they went ahead and released it also on DC or went with a more successful platform it isn't unreasonable to predict Shenmue II would have fared much better, perhaps outselling Shenmue I by a fair margin.

GavinGT said:
I think it was a gambit to expose the franchise to a platform that was actually alive. Probably sounded like a good idea at the time.
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Well yes. I am sure it sounded like a good idea at the time to SEGA management, but they handled the transition to third party really poorly overall I would say.
 
How do you guys estimate the chances of seeing a significant boost at the start of July? I can only speak for myself, but I am a big fan of the series since Dreamcast days and I haven't donated yet, but will so during the last days of this month or at the start of the next, the reason being solely that I recieve my salary at that time. I already spent (or planned out) my "gaming budget" so to speak for June before E3 came around.

So I imagine there are others that will be more eager to donate at the end or beginning of a month. Anyway, I will probably go for the 160 or 175$ tier as of now.
 
OrochiJR said:
How do you guys estimate the chances of seeing a significant boost at the start of July? I can only speak for myself, but I am a big fan of the series since Dreamcast days and I haven't donated yet, but will so during the last days of this month or at the start of the next, the reason being solely that I recieve my salary at that time. I already spent (or planned out) my "gaming budget" so to speak for June before E3 came around.

So I imagine there are others that will be more eager to donate at the end or beginning of a month. Anyway, I will probably go for the 160 or 175$ tier as of now.
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I think a lot of people like you will probably pledge when they get paid. So there may be a boost at the end of the month. The thing is though it doesn't matter when you pledge. The money always comes out at the end of the Kickstarter and I guess some people just don't know that.
 
So umm....what exactly does the 'Includes the $300 Reward' mean? I'm pretty sure I'm going to give $500 - does that mean I get $300 back, essentially only spending $200? I'm lost.
 
N.A said:
Cancelling the release of the Dreamcast version of Shenmue II in the largest market of the original to release late on an unproven platform obviously had an effect on sales.
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Rampant piracy. By the time Shenmue II came out not only was the Dreamcast dead, people that had one were simply burning discs or buying cheap copies from someone in the street. The Dreamcast was the only console I can recall where you could play pirated copies of games without a hardware modification. It started out that you needed to insert a bootloader cd but then they incorporated it into the actual game disc. Crazy.
 
Tricky I Shadow said:
So umm....what exactly does the 'Includes the $300 Reward' mean? I'm pretty sure I'm going to give $500 - does that mean I get $300 back, essentially only spending $200? I'm lost.
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If you pledge $500 you get all of the items included in the below tiers. So they pretty much stack. There is a chart on the page telling you what you get with each tier:

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Theonik said:
It is a reason, there is no single reason why Shenmue II didn't sell so good. People bought Shenmue I in relatively large quantities on the Dreamcast (1.2m units on a ~6m base at the time), but then they struck a deal and printed limited copies of it in PAL and no copies of it in the US for the Dreamcast. They then released the game on the Xbox which was also not a very successful platform and at the time Shenmue II came out was at its infancy, if they went ahead and released it also on DC or went with a more successful platform it isn't unreasonable to predict Shenmue II would have fared much better, perhaps outselling Shenmue I by a fair margin.


Well yes. I am sure it sounded like a good idea at the time to SEGA management, but they handled the transition to third party really poorly overall I would say.
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Do we know why it was never released on PS2?

Game would have probably done well on that platform.
 
SaucyJack said:
Do we know why it was never released on PS2?

Game would have probably done well on that platform.
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When Sega went third party a number a games (Panzer Dragoon, Jet Set Radio) were exclusive to Xbox as Microsoft's attempt to break into the Japanese market. It went swimmingly, saved Sega and made the Xbox a huge success in Japan.
 
N.A said:
Cancelling the release of the Dreamcast version of Shenmue II in the largest market of the original to release late on an unproven platform obviously had an effect on sales.
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Shenmue 2 bombed on Dreamcast in the markets it was released on as well though. So yeah, the xbox version ended up being a mistake but I don't think it would have ended up wildly different with a US Dreamcast release
 
beril said:
Shenmue 2 bombed on Dreamcast in the markets it was released on as well though. So yeah, the xbox version ended up being a mistake but I don't think it would have ended up wildly different with a US Dreamcast release
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It bombed in Japan? What were the sales figures?
 
beril said:
Shenmue 2 bombed on Dreamcast in the markets it was released on as well though. So yeah, the xbox version ended up being a mistake but I don't think it would have ended up wildly different with a US Dreamcast release
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to be fair sega had already announced the dreamcast was dead prior to shenmue II's release. that's got to be a harsh blow to sales.
 
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