So Atlus's site is down atm.
I'm guessing they're redesigning it to be p5 themed?
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Persona 5 Trailer 2
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Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Just seen this trailer, fuck me this is great.
Myself, I honestly expected a small (1-2 minutes) trailer for E3 to co-exist with a much larger (8-15 minutes) trailer to be given with Dancing All Night. Of course, now that we know that the trailer included itself is only two minutes.... that obviously wasn't happening.
I guess it depends on what you mean by new footage. The vast majority of the trailer was actually pretty new, but the trailer itself is abnormally short for something they gave away as part of another game.
EDIT: Counted it myself, only about 22 seconds of the new trailer is repeat footage. The vast majority of it (80%) is all new footage.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what people are expecting Atlus USA to do here right now for a game that's probably not going to come out for another 5-6 months, that has had next to nothing released publicly in Japan, and that, short of a miracle, will sell less than a million copies in NA (most likely far less). They showed the main trailer on a constant loop in their surprisingly large booth, they sponsored E3, and they gave out a bunch of P5 swag. They'll save a more concentrated marketing blitz for later when the game is almost out and they have more that they can show.
PhoenixRouge
Neo Member
P508954TS
Persona 5- 08 September(9) 15 - Atlus
Yes, no, maybe?
Even though in-game, it's month/day, so August 9, a sunday, which seems unreal
Thoughts?
yeah i think you're wayyy lowballing how much it's gonna sell
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Oh, I definitely hope Persona 5 is the first mainstream success for the series and sells Final Fantasy figures. It's just when you've got a series that typically sells in the low 6 digits in a region, giving it a AAA marketing budget would be incredibly irresponsible and risky, especially for a company that can't easily absorb a huge failure.
I don't get it. The entire point is to present the duality of him being a student by the day and a thief by night. It's done really well and it's what's interesting about the protagonist.
duh
some people will still want Atlus to buy a super bowl ad for it or something though
There's no reason to waste money in marketing when the game is still so far out. The only reason PV2 was made and even released at this time was likely to help bolster P4DAN sales.
It's not an uncommon practice by any means.
When they want to start the train they'll start it. Just relax people. When it happens it will happen. Think about how as of right now, you'll be playing the new Persona game in a little less than 6 months now.
They've repeated a statement about a 2015 release for about the last 6 months at literally every single turn thus far, and at pretty much any moment someone asks them about it.
It's not an uncommon practice by any means.
When they want to start the train they'll start it. Just relax people. When it happens it will happen. Think about how as of right now, you'll be playing the new Persona game in a little less than 6 months now.
They've repeated a statement about a 2015 release for about the last 6 months at literally every single turn thus far, and at pretty much any moment someone asks them about it.
Yabberwocky
Member
The combination of the art direction and the soundtrack is incredible, they've absolutely outdone themselves. I'm really enjoying the MC, too, which is great - I'd found myself a bit lukewarm on the previous Persona protagonists.
Fingers-crossed that the EU wait isn't too brutal.
Fingers-crossed that the EU wait isn't too brutal.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Curious on how long it'll be til the (Famitsu or otherwise) information drip opens up all the way. Sooner = better for a 2015 NA release, but we'll have to wait and see how Atlus decides to play it.
P4's 'main' reveal to launch was what, 4 months?
P4's 'main' reveal to launch was what, 4 months?
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Seriously. P5 makes me want to make better games and all I've seen is the two trailers! The UI alone is awe-inspiring.
4 months.
This is a much, much bigger release than P4 ever was, but the marketing timeline and the push seems to align with when P4 was being marketed.
Apologies for not reading all of the comments, but it's not impossible that Persona 5's localization has been going on for a while. Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker had its English audio recorded July last year, even though the game didn't launch in Japan until the following January and in America the following May. At some point, the dev cycle isn't going to be an impediment to the localization pipeline until it comes time to implement it in the code itself.
Plus, who knows how far along an English build would be at this point and if it'd be ready to be shown publicly? The very first English footage of Persona Q wasn't firing on full cylinders, and didn't even have its subtitles formatted properly, foregoing a regular text stroke for really ugly rectangle containers.
Plus, who knows how far along an English build would be at this point and if it'd be ready to be shown publicly? The very first English footage of Persona Q wasn't firing on full cylinders, and didn't even have its subtitles formatted properly, foregoing a regular text stroke for really ugly rectangle containers.
One thing to keep in mind, though, is that this is the first Persona game (other than the fighting games) since the PS1 days to be released on a system that anyone but the most niche audience is paying attention to outside of Japan. I think this game has a lot of potential...and would have had even more potential if they had shown this trailer on the Sony stage, as it is one of the few great exclusive games the PS4 has this year...Oh well.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
so hyped for this. I like that they aren't showing much.
so hyped for this. I like that they aren't showing much.
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uomoartificiale
Member
This time though there's no region loick. We can import a physical copy or buy it digitally from the from the us store.
Somebody could shop Atlus logo on Igor's face and the rest kinda fits then lol.
So, I actually decided to get down to numbers and count how many seconds of re-used footage we got in the trailer.
0:05-0:12 = 8 seconds (from the start of 5 to the beginning of 12)
0:22-0:25 = 4 seconds
0:42-0:47 = 6 seconds
0:54-0:56 = 3 seconds
0:58-1:00 = 3 seconds
1:02 = 1 second (Probably closer to less than a second)
1:04 = 1 second
1:06 = 1 second
(Not counting anything in the battles as none of it is actually from the previous videos. Some points seem quite similar to screenshots we've seen from famitsu scans, but I'm not counting that as re-seen footage.)
1:31 = 1 second
1:45-1:48 4 seconds
So, in total, just about/under 32 seconds.
The total span of the trailer is 134 seconds.
32/134 equals about 24%(rounded up).
So, approximately 24% of the trailer was re-used footage.
I know this doesn't really matter, but hopefully this breakdown stops the hyperbolic statements of "half the trailer was re-used footage!!!!" or "80% of this is old!".
Pre-post EDIT: Looks like I was beat, but me and Sophia's numbers are slightly different so I'm gonna post anyway. Either way it's between 16.5% and 24% Depending non what you consider "old" or "new".
0:05-0:12 = 8 seconds (from the start of 5 to the beginning of 12)
0:22-0:25 = 4 seconds
0:42-0:47 = 6 seconds
0:54-0:56 = 3 seconds
0:58-1:00 = 3 seconds
1:02 = 1 second (Probably closer to less than a second)
1:04 = 1 second
1:06 = 1 second
(Not counting anything in the battles as none of it is actually from the previous videos. Some points seem quite similar to screenshots we've seen from famitsu scans, but I'm not counting that as re-seen footage.)
1:31 = 1 second
1:45-1:48 4 seconds
So, in total, just about/under 32 seconds.
The total span of the trailer is 134 seconds.
32/134 equals about 24%(rounded up).
So, approximately 24% of the trailer was re-used footage.
I know this doesn't really matter, but hopefully this breakdown stops the hyperbolic statements of "half the trailer was re-used footage!!!!" or "80% of this is old!".
Pre-post EDIT: Looks like I was beat, but me and Sophia's numbers are slightly different so I'm gonna post anyway. Either way it's between 16.5% and 24% Depending non what you consider "old" or "new".
Supermanisdead
Member
I definitely think Sony would have given Atlus a couple minutes of their show to present a new trailer and that would have been huge. Especially considering this is one of the few Sony exclusive games coming this year and Persona trailers are always exciting spectacles. But this bizarre Atlus Japan mindset of desperately attempting to get a very small number of diehard fan sales from this preorder bonus really messed it all up.
This new trailer is up on most major gaming sites, and shows up as the first few results when you google Persona 5. Except now that it's post E3, a far fewer number of people are actually checking these websites. This whole situation is mindboggling the more you think about it.
This new trailer is up on most major gaming sites, and shows up as the first few results when you google Persona 5. Except now that it's post E3, a far fewer number of people are actually checking these websites. This whole situation is mindboggling the more you think about it.
It seems that the three have a dynamic that can resemble P3's MC, Junpei and Yukari from some of the scenes:
However, everything they've shown seems to be very early on in the game. So this could mean all three already know each other very well (I don't recall three knowing each other this well, at most it's Akihiko-Mitsuru and Chie-Yukiko). In the case of P3 that's something that develops over some time as at first they don't know each other. Also, even then, the two guys seem much more aggressive/intimidating than Junpei who wanted to be bad-ass sometimes but ultimately needed Shinjiro to save them from the idiots they went to meet in the backstreets.
However, everything they've shown seems to be very early on in the game. So this could mean all three already know each other very well (I don't recall three knowing each other this well, at most it's Akihiko-Mitsuru and Chie-Yukiko). In the case of P3 that's something that develops over some time as at first they don't know each other. Also, even then, the two guys seem much more aggressive/intimidating than Junpei who wanted to be bad-ass sometimes but ultimately needed Shinjiro to save them from the idiots they went to meet in the backstreets.
This.
People would rather wait a few months or even more for a EU release, rather than buying the US version?
It seems that the three have a dynamic that can resemble P3's MC, Junpei and Yukari from some of the scenes:
However, everything they've shown seems to be very early on in the game. So this could mean all three already know each other very well (I don't recall three knowing each other this well, at most it's Akihiko-Mitsuru and Chie-Yukiko). In the case of P3 that's something that develops over some time as at first they don't know each other. Also, even then, the two guys seem much more aggressive/intimidating than Junpei who wanted to be bad-ass sometimes but ultimately needed Shinjiro to save them from the idiots they went to meet in the backstreets.
Wonder who that hand coming at Anne is
Shouta
Member
Could make a good banned gif. Someone put new thread on Anne and bish heads on the MC and Ryuji.
It's all but guaranteed I'd say, Atlus loves their CE's. Man, I remember that Catherine CE being pretty neat. Still have that underwear.
Pandora012
Member
I didn't even think of the CE. This is going to be, I think, my second one ever.
I did not count battle footage, as it shows new variations of the environments and new features. I did count other gameplay sections tho. Hence the difference.
I wonder too since it has to be somewhat important, we don't usually get animated cutscenes for nothing, especially one from a random person's first-person point of view. Plus they're usually early in the story and used to illustrate a new concept (Velvet Room, Main Character, Dark Hour, Persona awakening, etc.) There could be a bigger amount of cutscenes now though, the games are very different from one another and it's been a while since they made a home console RPG. Interesting that the hand backs up as soon as they come into frame.
I almost never make GIFs so I've completely forgotten which software I used to do that. That's a great idea though, someone should do it!
Speculation: Anne is on the train and being followed by a creepy guy, she tells her two friends at school MC and Ryuji and this is where that happens. It's how they bond more.
Heavenly_Spear
Neo Member
Hoooooly shit, saw the trailer at work during my lunch! Short and a little bit recycled, BUT it did show a lot of interesting stuff. I'm working on a analsye going over all the new stuff shown in the trailer and what I think it means. Will post it once Im done!
the way it was shot, it seemed like a 'zombie' or assaulter POV, but it could also be a fake-out
Yeah, I hope they don't bring back P4 characters but thats one way I could see them doing it.
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Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, should have shown this trailer at E3 on the main stage rather than tuck it away as a bonus on for product the people who are definitely going to buy the game already. Weird choice.
cj_iwakura
Member
Anyone notice the clover on the female PC's blouse? Maybe that's her name, or at least an alias.
It's also green sometimes, and red other times. Dunno why. Alternate outfits maybe.
Stone Ocean
Member
It's red when the visuals go black white-ish but in reality it's green, just like how Morgana's scarf is supposed to be yellow but shows up as red in those animations
Immaculate
Banned
we already saw so much with the leaked images but this was still pretty cool and the music was cool too
Digital store is region locked and I'm not even sure if making a fake NA account will unlock it.
Ahhhhhhhhh. That makes sense.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Yeah there is no bigger SMT/Persona fan....but yeah. Color me MEH.
THIS should have been the "first" trailer. 20 seconds of new in game footage blended with the old does not a new trailer make. The build up is no where near the levels it was before Persona 4s release.
Still.
OMFG PERSONA 4 ON PS4 DAY 0 BLONDE HAIR GUY IS SUPER CUTE
THIS should have been the "first" trailer. 20 seconds of new in game footage blended with the old does not a new trailer make. The build up is no where near the levels it was before Persona 4s release.
Still.
OMFG PERSONA 4 ON PS4 DAY 0 BLONDE HAIR GUY IS SUPER CUTE
thegirlleastlikelyto
Member
Heavenly_Spear
Neo Member
Done my little analyse: http://megidolmao.tumblr.com/post/122376099902/small-analyses-on-persona-5-pv2
I'm sure during the time I was at work all day most of your guys probs already figured out what I've written down, but whatever, I'm dying to throw some theories around!
I'm sure during the time I was at work all day most of your guys probs already figured out what I've written down, but whatever, I'm dying to throw some theories around!