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Warner Brothers suspends [new] purchases for PC version of Batman Arkham Knight
- Thread starter Mad Season
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Sounds like these people aren't too familiar with the Internet.
Memorabilia
Member
Holy shit. With WB's nickle-&-dime sales approach it wouldn't surprise me if they charged more for the "New & Improved version that actually works".
Seriously tho, is this unprecedented?
Seriously tho, is this unprecedented?
Pathfinder
Member
I was thinking along the same lines. There's gotta be something more to the story than that. I find it hard to believe that someone thought no one would notice in this day and age.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
People who bought cheap, grey market keys, or thought the game was terrible and didn't refund/bought the console version as well. You are part of the problem. Good job.
BrettHeazy
Member
Bold move from Warner, hope other pubs take note tbh!
Actually, I just other pubs have decent QA teams
Actually, I just other pubs have decent QA teams
Some people don't seem to understand that the core/AAA games market isn't a growth market anymore. Budgets go up but the amount of people buying those games, while large, is not growing but consolidating. I always smile when people say things like Final Fantasy's comparatively lower sales on XBO are leading SE to abandon the platform or similar, because even only 30% of sales is something publishers can't afford to ignore these days. In a consolidating market the absolute worst thing a AAA developer can do is remove avenues for profit and remove potential consumers, it's just not done. There's a reason why all the big third party exclusives are wrapped up in a platform holder's money. A whole lot of people are wrapped up in a platform war rhetoric and are oblivious to the industry around them.
Pathfinder
Member
There's nothing wrong with the console version.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
I was referring to people who thought the PC version was terrible so ran out and bought the console version in addition i.e giving WB twice the money for a crap port.
Wiktor
Member
The costs of AAA games have gotten so high that almost nobody can afford not to release PC versions. At most they might delay, but I would guess this is more likely to force them to actually get competent PC devs to handle the ports or do the porting internally.
I think we shouldn´t be praising WB for removing the game from sales, they should´ve made sure they weren´t releasing a broken game in the first place. Also, this decision is surely the only way they could stop all the negative backlash when they still are in time: things will cool down and ratings and reviews may go up in the future, but leaving the game as it is now would had only caused the ratings and game perception to sink even deeper to an unrecoverable point. That and not getting any money due to Steam refunds.
They didn´t care that the game was a mess at release, so it´s hard for me to believe that they´re doing this now because "We greatly value our customers".
*Deletes BAK from wanted list*
They didn´t care that the game was a mess at release, so it´s hard for me to believe that they´re doing this now because "We greatly value our customers".
*Deletes BAK from wanted list*
texhnolyze
Banned
I think he mean people who bought PC version at first (which doesn't work very well) then ended up buying a console copy instead.
Yeah, that'll show them indeed.
I bought in on PS4 as well. I have no problem with that. Rocksteady made a fantastic game that I want to play and they deserve this game to do well.
Pathfinder
Member
If they're not going to release games on PC or delay them because they're broken then that can only be a good thing.
Not releasing crap is better than the situation we got now, delay for a better product is better than the premature release of the shit we got.
The ps4 version is good. Why not get a refund and buy it?
Sure they did. Wich is funny cause the only way to read that kind of behaviour is
"Fuck you! Here's more money!!"
What are you trying to accomplish with this post, exactly? Claim that everyone who didn't buy the game on Steam is as responsible for this debacle as WB/Iron Galaxy? Nice.
Retrocore9
Banned
Has Rocksteady ever worked on a pc port or has all the Arkham games been given to other studios to port?
I'm curious who will be doing the fix up on this version. There is the possibility they will still go back to Iron Galaxy since they had the contract and WB may want to force them to fix it which would be the cheapest solution for them.
I'm curious who will be doing the fix up on this version. There is the possibility they will still go back to Iron Galaxy since they had the contract and WB may want to force them to fix it which would be the cheapest solution for them.
Sunnington
Banned
Another win for the PC Master Race. Praise lord Gaben for making the gaming landscape that much brighter with his glorious refunds.
Rocksteady has released garbage in the past with AC's DX11 mode.
They probably thought along the lines of release the borked product and let the suckers buy it. We'll patch /fix it eventually. They must have forgotten that refunds are officially a thing now on steam etc.
Steam were pushed kicking & screaming in to refunds.
Shoudla woulda coulda, too late, they already did release it broken. So they could do nothing and tell people to please understand while they perhaps futilely tried to patch it, or suspend sales so no one else gets stuck with it. I'm not saying they deserve much praise, but they did do something right even if they started with a massive wrong, and they do deserve just an iota of credit for that. They certainly have enough blame in their direction that that tiny sliver isn't going to leave them smelling like roses through this kerfluffle.
Just because the PC port is poor doesn't mean the game isn't great. For a lot of people it's far more important to enjoy a great game than to "send a message" to publishers. I got the game for PC with the Nvidia promotion and am one of the lucky ones who is actually getting a solid, very playable experience on PC. If I wasn't though, I would have gone out and bought the PS4 version, because Arkham Knight is clearly a great game and I want to play it.
BibiMaghoo
Member
Pulled from Steam?
I, er, fairplay to them. They are no longer willing to sell the shitty version. That takes some courage. Good move.
I, er, fairplay to them. They are no longer willing to sell the shitty version. That takes some courage. Good move.
Rodney McKay
Member
I don't know, some companies are just completely blind to issues.
When Strangers Wrath got ported to PC a few years ago it ran like complete shit even on really good machines. One of the dead from Just Add Water posted on Gaf and was like "well we tested it on a few machines and it all worked fine on those ones."
Granted, they were a lot smaller developer than the guys making Batman, but that game and the reaction from that developer on here really showed me that some people really are just ignorant of the faults of their game, whether from lack of actual testing like Just Add Water did with that game, or only caring about meeting a release date like Batman seems to be.
I was thinking exactly this. I will finish the game before the patch comes out I'm sure.
Smushroomed
Banned
I bet ubisoft is so glad they weren't first at-bar after steam started refunds
Hell yeah. Also reviews and metacritic. All that stuff gives media something to wrote about as well.
ColonialRaptor
Member
How this abomination was ever released in the first place boggles my mind. Someone getting fired.
Tainted
Member
Iron Galaxy employees are getting ready to enter the Lang Zone
To tell you the truth, Rockstar would of had to deal with a lot of shit too if Steam refunds existed at the time of its release. Social Club is a piece of shit software and there were many people who couldn't even activate their games because of it.
Massive Nights
Member
Why though? I'm sure devs and QA had documented the problems, they're too prevelant not to have. Ultimately it was WB's decision to put it out in the state they did.
I pretty sure the people who bought the PC version first, and got the console version after witnessing the mess the game is on PC, got a Steam-refund first and I'm also pretty confident Steam is not refunding those purchases out of it's own pockets, but relaying those costs to WB, so WB is not seeing double the money, if anything, WB is seeing shitloads of people dissapointed with the PC port, but still excited enough about an excellent game to buy it on a different platform.
nah they dont value customers , only money - its obvious when you see which DRM it ues and the quality of the port - this is just damage control
Fair point. Well at least it's been taken down for now and hopefully fixed soon.
They were offering refunds when GTA 5 was released, they had a notice on Steam that refunds are available until the first patch is released to fix the RSC issue.
Tizoc
Member
Shadow of Mordor was a good PC port though.
It was so good I could run it at High Settings+30 FPS lock and had no issues.
I could play with unlocked framerate but it would fluctuate and not stick at 60 FPS.
It just baffles me how they couldn't get the same people who did Mordor to do the Batman AK port, or at least make the port to similar quality as Mordor :/