actually there was someone on the shenmue dojo holding onto 10k and waiting for someone to drop out of the dinner with yu suzuki slot...
maybe they just decided to add it anyway
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maybe they just decided to add it anyway
In all the doom & gloom, I hope y'all remember that the nature of this campaign launch means its probably a lot more front-loaded than normal. A lot of the money that would normally be coming in during this time period probably came in the rush following Sony's conference.
Is that all from one person or perhaps a bunch of people upping pledges? I thought all the 10k tiers were already gone. Also, this is to everyone, whenever there is a fluctuation of funds, it doesn't always mean its a troll. People are free to raise/lower their pledges at will you know
Also issues with cards, etc. can make totals move around a bit too.
Is that all from one person or perhaps a bunch of people upping pledges? I thought all the 10k tiers were already gone. Also, this is to everyone, whenever there is a fluctuation of funds, it doesn't always mean its a troll. People are free to raise/lower their pledges at will you know
Also issues with cards, etc. can make totals move around a bit too.
Ghost_Messiah
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Hmm. Interesting. Glancing over the ShenmueDojo forums there is zero activity indicating that one of their members just donated 10K. Looks like it was someone external to the site. Shenmue has a lot of dedicated fans around the world and given how long ago Shenmue 1 and 2 are now they'd theoretically be in a position with disposable income like that. I think that's one of the reasons why this (along with Mighty No. 9 and Bloodstained) succeeded so massively. Their fans are affluent adults now with decent disposable income.
Hope to God it's not another pledge troll. Seems legit so far.
true, but we've had a few instances where several thousand just went away within ten minutes in bits and pieces.Is that all from one person or perhaps a bunch of people upping pledges? I thought all the 10k tiers were already gone. Also, this is to everyone, whenever there is a fluctuation of funds, it doesn't always mean its a troll. People are free to raise/lower their pledges at will you know
hopefully this holds
it's funny how the whole KS just stands still when there's a big pledge. like everybody is afraid of it going away
Die Squirrel Die
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I'm not sure if it's entirely AJ's fault that things are so anaemic. They can only produce so much with the materials that Ys Net have provided for them and I think some of the holes in the campaign so far may be more Ys Net's doing.
As I see it the major problem is that they are not drawing a through line from the beginning of the series to where Shenmue III is going to take it. Take today's interview with the character designer for instance, he talks for a bit about what he was doing before joining Shenmue way back when, talks a little bit about first designing Shenhua and then......nothing, that's the end of video. It's a nice bit of remaniscing but it says absolutely nothing about where the series went as it became Shenmue I and II and where he wants to go with Shenmue III.
Look at everytime Yu has been asked to elaborate on the stretch goals, he starts to give some vague ideas, that at least hint that there's more to them, but then cuts it off without delving deeper, as though he doesn't seem to get that he has actually got to sell his vision to both veterans and newcomers and that requires actually informing people of what that vision is.
Take the character page on the KS, each character gets an illustration and a short line of description.
Really, that's really all they have to say about Ryo.
Once again, gobsmackingly informative.
Not even a word of explanation as to what the Chi You Men actually is. It's been 14 years, people may remember Lan Di but do they remember much about the organisation he belongs to?
As for Niao Sun, even someone who's played both games extensively isn't going to remember her. I'm not ever sure she is ever mentioned by name in the games themselves.
And Yu has even said we are going to meet all 4 Chi You Men bosses in III, so where are their designs, where are their character descriptions?
As I see it the major problem is that they are not drawing a through line from the beginning of the series to where Shenmue III is going to take it. Take today's interview with the character designer for instance, he talks for a bit about what he was doing before joining Shenmue way back when, talks a little bit about first designing Shenhua and then......nothing, that's the end of video. It's a nice bit of remaniscing but it says absolutely nothing about where the series went as it became Shenmue I and II and where he wants to go with Shenmue III.
Look at everytime Yu has been asked to elaborate on the stretch goals, he starts to give some vague ideas, that at least hint that there's more to them, but then cuts it off without delving deeper, as though he doesn't seem to get that he has actually got to sell his vision to both veterans and newcomers and that requires actually informing people of what that vision is.
Take the character page on the KS, each character gets an illustration and a short line of description.
Really, that's really all they have to say about Ryo.
Once again, gobsmackingly informative.
Not even a word of explanation as to what the Chi You Men actually is. It's been 14 years, people may remember Lan Di but do they remember much about the organisation he belongs to?
As for Niao Sun, even someone who's played both games extensively isn't going to remember her. I'm not ever sure she is ever mentioned by name in the games themselves.
And Yu has even said we are going to meet all 4 Chi You Men bosses in III, so where are their designs, where are their character descriptions?
Honestly it feels like they rushed out the kickstarter (before they had enough material to promote it) for the Sony press conference. Hoping that the increased coverage would help push it more than content would.
maybe....
though we know through 8-4 that the kickstarter has been a very real thing for two years or so, though what's actually been happening during those two years is a mystery. maybe ys.net were just trying to secure funding all that time.
s_mirage
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My estimate would be pretty conservative: ~$5m max.
I hope to be proven wrong but I don't think we'll get a symmetrical pledge graph. I think it'll get a kick towards the end but, unless things pick up with lots of fresh pledgers, I suspect that the existing fan base will be pretty much tapped out for increasing their donations by then.
I have a couple of questions. i just had a look at the new stretch goals where it mentions 'TOWN' expanded. Are these towns already in the game should the funding stop? And will these towns, however big or small they are, be as interactive as Shenmue 1 or 2? When I think about Shenmue, I think about the story, but I also think about the fact that these tiny little towns were so alive with activity that they felt like real places, something that games a decade on couldn't replicate.
Also, I think they need to work on getting more money out of the people who have already pledged. I'm in at $29, but I would happily pledge three times that if they offered something interesting for the money. The capsule stuff isn't realy doing it for me, nor is early access.
Also, I think they need to work on getting more money out of the people who have already pledged. I'm in at $29, but I would happily pledge three times that if they offered something interesting for the money. The capsule stuff isn't realy doing it for me, nor is early access.
ZombiePlatypus
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Whoa I just noticed that the $30 donation allows the option for a digital copy on PS4 now and isn't tied down to just PC.
Awesome.
Awesome.
ArisenDragon
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It has always been that.
petethepanda
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These obviously slow down after the initial sprint, but man, this really screeched to a halt. Wonder when (or if, I guess) it'll break 4.
ZombiePlatypus
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Really? I could have sworn it was PC only at first and was bummed out about it.
Oh well, guess I was being blind.
It's been there since the beginning.
That's been there. Physical was the one that was PC only.
ArisenDragon
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Hopefully from there it stays up and isn't just a one day super thing.
celsowmbr
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reworked my gif from last night into something more... usable
amazing !!!
that's aiming a little high but i think this will have a very strong final week. like i've said before, for a lot of fans it'll be time to put your money where your mouth is.
until then we all need to concentrate on getting non-fans in on this. it needs more big media attention
ArisenDragon
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Yeah for sure. If we can get people who aren't fans to pledge 29 bucks that's good.
here's another thing we need to remember, the backer count is still rising pretty steadily. the funding total may jump up and down but as long as the backer count is still going up we'll be okay. i think there will be significant pledge increases before the end, let alone a rush of new backers
Die Squirrel Die
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The things is they are not going to get non-fans in with stuff like this.
The entire page needs redesigned and a major focus needs to be made on getting people who haven't played the games up to speed on what is going on. Videos that recap the major story points of Shenmue I and II and extensive character descriptions that really describe each character thoroughly.
Elfforkusu
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The obsession with the current $ amount is soul-draining. No fun at all. Let's not do it.
This should be fun!
This should be fun!
Leona Lewis
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Yeah, if they're mainly helping out with marketing costs, it doesn't seem worth alienating the XB1 fanbase.
We've seen how poorly Sony can market its own titles. Why would they go the extra mile for Shenmue?
Are there any well-produced Shenmue retrospectives on YouTube? I remember one from G4, I think. That might be good to introduce the unfamiliar to the series.
I'd hope that the exclusivity means sony would at least be backing ports of shenmue 1 and 2 hd to ps4.
Leona Lewis
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That's not their decision to make. They couldn't even get S-E to up-res the PSP version of FFT0 and copy/paste the existing English localization.
Plus, Sega doesn't seem interested in next-gen development at all minus whatever Atlus is doing, the inevitable Alien: Isolation sequel, and the rumored PS4 brawler.
I believe in Verendus.
The best way to drum up casual interest is to expose the series to as many people as possible, but Sega doesn't seem to care much, even if they themselves stand to gain from Shenmue III's success.
/japanesethirdparties
46 667 right now. That improves.
Reach 3.8M$ next sunday is no more a dream, but a tangible reality.
How did that #conanplaysshenmue campaign go? Long shot?
s_mirage
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That got me all nostalgic. I need to hook my DC up again....
People are always talking about that in comments. What a waste of time. Conan isn't going to play a game from 14 years ago.
If they really want to get Conan to play Shenmue they should wait for III's release and try to get him to play it then.
i mean yes that's all true and needs to happen. if awesome japan won't do it, we should. it'd be cool if someone started a "shenmue newcomers guide" thread. i was going to, but had to drop it to work on my video.
Laevateinn
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I might be getting a lot more money than usual this month. If I do, I'll probably up my pledge to 500. I wish there was a 500 option that wasn't capsule toys though.
Shadoken
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Yea seems weird considering Xbox fanbase would be more familiar with the title , after all Shenmue 2 was on Xbox.
Maybe Sony helped them behind the scenes with other stuff , like getting license from Sega or w/e. The E3 conference reveal did give it a big boost. Although it seems like a double edged sword now.
Laevateinn
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How true is it that the Xbox fanbase would be more familiar with the title? The Xbox target demographic always seemed to be quite different than the demographic of people who would be interested in weird Japanese titles. This correlates well with the game not selling that well on the Xbox when it came out originally probably only getting Sega people who moved on to the Xbox rather than Gamecube or PS2.
just remember, the true reward is a better game.
i'm heavily thinking of pushing into $3000 before the end. i'm meant to be saving for a big purchase in september, and that'd totally fuck it up. then again, we only get one shot at this...
ArisenDragon
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Wow if I could afford more I would give more but can't at the moment.
Laevateinn
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That's definitely true. If I didn't already buy tickets to go to Japan (to visit Yokosuka among other things lol) I probably would put a grand down. Shenmue 3 is just too awesome to not go all out.
Neander
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This sounds more like "I don't want this game on the Xbox, period". Phil already stated it was the #1 requested game. At this point adding even a digital version would attract another 10-20k backers easily.
Laevateinn
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I think it'd be great if it came out on Xbox also but if resources are limited and they aren't getting support from MS I don't see why Xbox people can't play it on PC. It's not 100 % exclusive to PS4 and the demographics of PC and PS4 make more sense.
Most Japanese games don't get released on XB1 in the first place and I don't see why we expect Shenmue to be any different unless they can guarantee that it can get a decent return or a similar deal to the one Sony gave them.
And yet Phil didn't do shit. What's to show for his concern? I don't understand why this keeps coming up. Suzuki suggested it. Sony might not be putting serious capital, which apparently is now $10-15MM, behind it but 3PP is putting development resources and support into it and that's worth real monetary value.
It's not, "I don't want this on Xbox," it's "anybody home xbox? oh I guess not"
The money's ultimately fungible. Sony publishing/marketing/offering development support is money that can go straight into the game that wouldn't be spent anywhere else.
Mexican Sting
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Not with negative nancies like you around, he ain't!
Gamezone
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That`s just bad. Shenmue 3 published by Microsoft would have brought so much goodwill back to the Xbox brand.
yeah, but honestly after phantom dust has been quietly shelved you'd have to wonder what could have happened if shenmue suffered the same fate
They did nothing about so why does this even matter?
A certain subset of people just refuse to see these things properly. When games that wouldn't exist otherwise end up on one platform, they see red. Happened with Bayonetta as well.
Sony did Yu an unprecedented favor by letting him launch his Kickstarter on the most watched gaming event of the year.
ArisenDragon
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At least we are finally getting Shenmue 3 which is still sorta surreal no matter how big or small the game is.
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