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Can you not report nasty online players to Nintendo?
- Thread starter Karsticles
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ElectricBlanketFire
Member
No, they made lazy posts (including snark) and THEN made an actual argument.
I wish there was a way to report players in Mario Kart 7. There seem to be a ton of online cheaters now. One race I was followed by two players who just non-stop spawned mushrooms and stars and, instead of using these items to cheat and win, they used them to just ram into me the entire race.
Laugh out loud.
Did you respond to the wrong person?
What does any of this have to do with pictures being useful evidence for reporting someone?
If you want to have a cost/benefit debate on whether monitoring online behavior is worth it, that's fine I guess, but it has nothing to do with what I posted.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Is a business, not a family.
I'm sorry but this is hilariously sad.
Apollo Cree
Member
It was addressing the whole of the argument instead of a piece of it.
No, you are addressing the cost/benefit of moderation in general vs just ignoring the antagonizer.
But like I said, if you want to have that discussion, be my guest. It just has nothing to do with what I was saying.
Well the guy got back to me on how to deal with these users that don't have a Miiverse profile.
He said that you need to have their NNID and in-game names, then e-mail support and tell them what happened and they should take care of it. It's a terrible way of dealing with it, but it's all you can do unfortunately.
Apparently this is an issue they've been aware for a long time, and the mods have been pushing for better moderation and reporting tools but nothings really come of it so far.
So I guess the answer to your question Karst is that yea you can report them, but it's needlessly awkward and time consuming. Even then it's possible they won't really do anything.
He said that you need to have their NNID and in-game names, then e-mail support and tell them what happened and they should take care of it. It's a terrible way of dealing with it, but it's all you can do unfortunately.
Apparently this is an issue they've been aware for a long time, and the mods have been pushing for better moderation and reporting tools but nothings really come of it so far.
So I guess the answer to your question Karst is that yea you can report them, but it's needlessly awkward and time consuming. Even then it's possible they won't really do anything.
Apollo Cree
Member
That's a little disingenuous of you. Half of your post was implying that I was giving him coping advice. My post was a break down of why I believe that ignoring nasty players on the internet is the most efficient solution. The cost dynamics weren't what I was getting at.
That seems like a big oversight...
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Do you walk around with ear plugs in all day because you're afraid to hear something offensive? Nintendo could have made chat mute by default requiring an opt in, used in-game parental controls, or limited chat to friends. There is no good excuse for removing options IMO.
Back on topic, it just occurred to me, couldn't you just contact a miiverse mod to report somebody or is that considered separate?
Edit: Oidisco posted clarification. That seems pretty cumbersome but if Karst has pictures they'll probably get some type of ban.
It's seperate. Miiverse mods can't do anything since their powers are limited to Miiverse itself and have no way to deal with anything that happens in-game. So from what i can gather, even if they had a profile they still wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
El Sabroso
Member
cool didn't know about it, hope Nintendo just gets it tho
The Artisan
Member
if that's true then that's really fucking bad.
When I play against someone named "URPUSSY," all I want to do is ask for clarification.
"Pardon me, good sir, but when you say 'URPUSSY,' do you mean 'Your pussy,' suggesting I am fighting against my own genitals, or do you mean 'You Are Pussy,' meaning I -am- genitals?"
It's hard keeping track of online multiplayer lore.
"Pardon me, good sir, but when you say 'URPUSSY,' do you mean 'Your pussy,' suggesting I am fighting against my own genitals, or do you mean 'You Are Pussy,' meaning I -am- genitals?"
It's hard keeping track of online multiplayer lore.
Umm.... how was that a response to this?
You do realize that cost/benefit doesn't always imply money right? Like... are you even reading the posts you are responding too?
Karsticles
Member
I really did not expect this thread to be so controversial. Instead of trying to respond to everyone here, I will put a few general points.
Thank you to those that have tried to help. I will give customer service a call.
When I was young and pre-pubescent, my father allowed me to go online for the first time. It was a website called Internet Chess Club. For a month, he stood by me while I played. He taught me that online interactions are not unlike real life interactions. What I choose to do to others online reflects upon my individual character. It speaks about me. I choose to treat others online like they are people. I am not always nice, but I am not always nice in person, either. I do not treat randoms online like they are nothings to verbally abuse as I please. This is just part of having good character.
Verbal abuse is not uncommon in online play. However, that does not make it acceptable. With the anonymity of the internet, we need to think about how we want people to interact with one another. Nearly everyone who posts on GAF values the moderation staff here because they are so strict in enforcing a code of ethical behavior. We will openly say that GAF is the best partially because the team here tries to keep conversations civil. It is worth reflecting on what it really means when people say they are okay with this kind of behavior becoming the norm in online play. In OT, there is a thread about someone horrific bullying - don't phenomena like real bullying originate from these kinds of unchecked behaviors? A person is able to fling vitriol at whoever displeased him. Perhaps next he will SWAT a Twitch streamer, or DDoS a website. These behaviors are interlinked, they are not isolated.
As a teacher, I see a lot of young people that spend their lives online. This is their internet "etiquette". They do not socialize much with real people. They do not know how, because online etiquette does not really exist due to anonymity. They are lacking in social skills. Nearly any teacher you talk to today will speak to the extraordinary lack of social skills the youth of today possess. What if he is 8? Then this is an excellent opportunity for him to learn a little about how to treat others.
Those labeling the player's actions as trash talk are misguided. Trash talk is on the level. It is a kind of banter between two competitors that develops a bond. It begins after some relationship has been established. Random vitriol is not trash talk. Spamming swears and then logging off if not trash talk. It is verbal vomit from rage.
I do not consider myself a victim. I was not angered or upset by the player's verbiage. I saw the writing, was surprised, and simply thought "Well, that's not okay". That was the end of it. It isn't a "big deal", but I am also not going to quit because it will take a little effort to report this person. People need to learn that the internet is not a place for social anarchy. We would all be better off if this was a commonly held notion.
Thank you to those that have tried to help. I will give customer service a call.
When I was young and pre-pubescent, my father allowed me to go online for the first time. It was a website called Internet Chess Club. For a month, he stood by me while I played. He taught me that online interactions are not unlike real life interactions. What I choose to do to others online reflects upon my individual character. It speaks about me. I choose to treat others online like they are people. I am not always nice, but I am not always nice in person, either. I do not treat randoms online like they are nothings to verbally abuse as I please. This is just part of having good character.
Verbal abuse is not uncommon in online play. However, that does not make it acceptable. With the anonymity of the internet, we need to think about how we want people to interact with one another. Nearly everyone who posts on GAF values the moderation staff here because they are so strict in enforcing a code of ethical behavior. We will openly say that GAF is the best partially because the team here tries to keep conversations civil. It is worth reflecting on what it really means when people say they are okay with this kind of behavior becoming the norm in online play. In OT, there is a thread about someone horrific bullying - don't phenomena like real bullying originate from these kinds of unchecked behaviors? A person is able to fling vitriol at whoever displeased him. Perhaps next he will SWAT a Twitch streamer, or DDoS a website. These behaviors are interlinked, they are not isolated.
As a teacher, I see a lot of young people that spend their lives online. This is their internet "etiquette". They do not socialize much with real people. They do not know how, because online etiquette does not really exist due to anonymity. They are lacking in social skills. Nearly any teacher you talk to today will speak to the extraordinary lack of social skills the youth of today possess. What if he is 8? Then this is an excellent opportunity for him to learn a little about how to treat others.
Those labeling the player's actions as trash talk are misguided. Trash talk is on the level. It is a kind of banter between two competitors that develops a bond. It begins after some relationship has been established. Random vitriol is not trash talk. Spamming swears and then logging off if not trash talk. It is verbal vomit from rage.
I do not consider myself a victim. I was not angered or upset by the player's verbiage. I saw the writing, was surprised, and simply thought "Well, that's not okay". That was the end of it. It isn't a "big deal", but I am also not going to quit because it will take a little effort to report this person. People need to learn that the internet is not a place for social anarchy. We would all be better off if this was a commonly held notion.
Apollo Cree
Member
By showing that what I was saying wasn't "coping strategies" for the op?
When using cost/benefit, it's an easy mistake to assume you meant money. If the only thing that's going to come out of this is nitpicking semantics, I'm noping out of this thread.
SprachBrooks
Member
OP thinks kids only play on Nintendo consoles you're going to have a rough time playing online on another console haha. Let it go and do something productive than complaining about a probable 8-year-old calling you a pussy.
nikos
Member
Just move on. The best response is no response. Giving somebody more attention for doing something you don't like will only make it worse.
Like it or not, you have to expect such behavior when you play online, or do anything that involves any sort of human interaction, especially with strangers. Worse language was used on the soccer field when I was 10 years old. If you're sensitive to such things, you should probably stay offline.
Like it or not, you have to expect such behavior when you play online, or do anything that involves any sort of human interaction, especially with strangers. Worse language was used on the soccer field when I was 10 years old. If you're sensitive to such things, you should probably stay offline.
well said
Zomba13
Member
Yeah I know what you mean. When I walk down the street I constantly get called a pussy and get told about how my mother has been fucked repeatedly. It's just one of those things you know.
Seriously though it's fucked up and shouldn't be accepted. And I have to laugh at all the "just ignore it and they will stop" responses. Yeah, because that really works lol.
I'm actually surprised to see these types of responses on GAF of all places. there's a reason this forum is so great and the OP explained why that is very well. is it that hard to be kind to others nowadays?
100% here, well said
Throwaway123456789
Member
I'm actually going to side with "you're overreacting" here. You're not going to purge the internet for assholes by spending what, quite frankly, is a disproportional amount of energy on going after a random internett troll.
Tweeting Nintendo's translator, making threads and calling customer support isn't going to help in the slightest, you're just coming off as obsessed.
The internet is sometimes a shithole, and there are measures on the console to both report and turn off communications (including the names and short messages) in Smash Bros. Let it go, turn on the privacy options and move on.
Tweeting Nintendo's translator, making threads and calling customer support isn't going to help in the slightest, you're just coming off as obsessed.
The internet is sometimes a shithole, and there are measures on the console to both report and turn off communications (including the names and short messages) in Smash Bros. Let it go, turn on the privacy options and move on.
Arc Christelle
Member
Smh. Out here snitching on kids. Y'all ain't got no shame.
Lol
Karsticles
Member
I have played a lot of great strangers online. Numerous people have said "Add me" after our set. Some have found my YT channel and subscribed, or PMed me on a forum I post on about how good our set was. Don't let bad experiences keep you from good ones.
I don't have the patience or the time to deal with assholes.
I'm actually willing to pay to make sure that never happens, that's why I have no problem with stuffs like Wow but will consider an online game of CoD for example.
Ah, so he couldn't report him, but you read the title and thought it was as simple as pushing a button?
So if we do nothing, don't complain, and ignore a major vain bleeding, it will just take care of its self in time?
This is backwards thinking. It's fine if you your self do not want to expend the energy needed to report a trouble maker, but to suggest everyone else should do the same, and suggesting someone could be obsessed if doing more than a button press is just...
Wow.
DXLelouch153
Banned
i simply curbstomp people like that online then bask in their salt
the salt of people like that fuels me for generations
the salt of people like that fuels me for generations
Throwaway123456789
Member
I would hate for him to start playing League of Legends or Dota, then. He won't be doing anything else in his entire life. And yes - it's as simple as the push of a button (the Y button, actually), though he missed that opportunity.
It's incredibly weird to go after someone like this, and it serves no other purpose than to fuel his ego. The kid isn't going to get banned or change his ways, and the millions of others that does the same trolling isn't going to change. Welcome to the fucking internet!
And he's calling customer service and leaving messages for BILL TRINEN. Seriously. That's weird. I don't buy the "maybe the next thing he'll do is SWAT someone on Twitch". That's not only an absurd elevation of things, but pure speculation. You're not saving this long forlorn child from a life of rampant criminal behavior. I bet the representative at the call turned to his coworkers, laughed, and said "My god, guys. Some guy saw a swear word online and CALLED to complain! Can you believe it?!".
It's YOUR responsibility to shield your kid (if that's what you want to do), and Nintendo has provided every tool necessary to do just that. If you think the community is acting like assholes and don't want to see that - TURN IT OFF. It's that simple.
If you're offended by it, so fucking what? That's not anyone else's problem but your own. You're perfectly capable of going on with your life.
Relevant Stephen Fry.
it's this type of attitude that enables the negative behavior on the internet
StrangeTaco
Member
Id argue theres a pretty big difference between enabling "negative behavior" and accepting some of the realities of the platform you are on.
Weltall Zero
Member
Of course when someone asks a question, there is no shortage of people jumping in to tell him what he should feel like and care about. I don't know who are worse, people thinking he himself is offended by this behavior, people literally unable to wrap their heads around the fact that he might want to report him for someone else's sake, people thinking he doesn't have the right to report inappropriate behavior, or people thinking that behavior is acceptable because it's widespread.
OK, the last ones are probably the worst. So fucking tired of cynics telling people bad things are inevitable and if they don't affect us directly we shouldn't care or do anything about it, trying to pass their laziness and selfishness for edginess and toughness.
Please explain to me how comparing GAF's rules to another online service is backseat modding. Because it just seems like you're using it as a gag attempt like it was a GAF equivalent of "lol you trolling".
OK, the last ones are probably the worst. So fucking tired of cynics telling people bad things are inevitable and if they don't affect us directly we shouldn't care or do anything about it, trying to pass their laziness and selfishness for edginess and toughness.
Please explain to me how comparing GAF's rules to another online service is backseat modding. Because it just seems like you're using it as a gag attempt like it was a GAF equivalent of "lol you trolling".
I've wanted to report quite a few people when playing Smash, but because of Nintendo not allowing me to report anyone after the results screen, it's pretty much impossible unless I want to play them again. And since just learning today that reporting them on Miiverse is useless, I'm shocked that Nintendo would make the ability to simply report someone so awkward.
hurricanes
Member
There is a reason why many non-gamers have absolutely negative impression of LOL and WOW. Because there are so many ill-bred man babies(or real babies?); and edgy people like you. If you aren't brother by this kind of behavior, good for you. Other people want to report nasty people, so what? That actually bothers you because they are bothered and you are not?
Yeah. Aside reporting directly from Smash (which is easy, but at the end of a match) or through Miiverse, there are no other options per se. You can go to your Friend List, check the recent players...but when choosing an user everything else is done through Miiverse, including reporting.
And like with the other platforms, unless it's really obvious (like racism, slurs, homophobia) in their profile or username; it will need a few people reporting it, to flag that user. They won't just flag or ban an user for cursing online.
And like with the other platforms, unless it's really obvious (like racism, slurs, homophobia) in their profile or username; it will need a few people reporting it, to flag that user. They won't just flag or ban an user for cursing online.
Simbabbad
Member
Indeed.
Not being able to easily report stuff like this is really an issue here. Hope it's fixed for later games.
Theanine3D
Member
Good on you for wanting to make the online community a more pleasant one. Can't believe people are giving you shit for it.
Most people here, myself included, can probably handle hate messages like the ones in the OP. We're simply used to it. That in no way makes any of the content of those messages okay. Someone who is not used to it could see it and react to it in a harmful manner.
Most people here, myself included, can probably handle hate messages like the ones in the OP. We're simply used to it. That in no way makes any of the content of those messages okay. Someone who is not used to it could see it and react to it in a harmful manner.
A minority of comments in this thread have solidified my resolve to not buy a Wii U this generation, and that is both petty of me, and a real shame.
Tag worthy. Good points, well made.
That's quite...a weird message to get from this. You can report people, unless you just don't own any other console or gaming PC for similar reasons.
You just report the person and even block him/her too. The problem in this case is that the OP apparently missed the window to report in game and through Miiverse, the person has a private profile it seems so can't be found unless you're a friend. Since the profile is apparently private, it doesn't affect any other users there's nothing breaking the TOS in that aspect. And the online interactions were not reported in game, so there's no flag or record reported outside the pictures OP took.
The OP could check if the user appears in the recent players, but I doubt that because of the private profile.
